tukhman,

"Oh please... I've never seen more haters in my life.

C'mon guys, nobody said you have to LOVE us, just don't hate us unless we've done you wrong."

i have no reason to hate. shit, this dosen't even involve me, its not even my arguement. but, your going to get my opinions, as i would expect yours if i was in your shoes.

you've done wrong to swifthost in regards to making fun of his financial stability. i don't think thats cool at all.

you haven't even apologised once to swifthost or find the employee who is responsible. you guys don't have that big of staff, come on :)

i know your a good guy, and your company is good in my books. but this crap your employee dished out to try to get him signed over is really messed up man

ROFLMAO Why open your fly hole about something you know nothing about. Another likewhoa cronie.
If I was looking for attention this is not the way to do it. I never said likewhoa was not great hosting, I am sure it is.
Thing is Flyshit I don't ignore icqs, I always respond to them. I am only defending myself because all you likewhoa ass kissers are attacking me for exposing a spammer you are in bed with.:321GFY

what are you talking about? Pete made mention of their tactics with that one ICQ, you're blabbering on about an initial contact...


so, their marketing is aggressive, so fucking what? ever been to a car dealership? how about that aggressive bitch at McDonalds that urges me to try the hot apple pie when I hate hot apple pie?

do you cry when you get the big McUpsell?

SexTraffic,
You don't even understand man... We are up to 3 pages, and we are still on the same topic. When I have apologized, an employee is home, and I've committed to address the issues.

Choker will continue because today is the day Like Whoa just happened to affect his mood. I stand behind my staff. Every screw up they make... is mine. Every time I have clear evidence in front of me of wrong-doings I will step in, just like I will accept the praise. It comes with the territory, and you can't please everybody.

That's fine. But I have no idea what Like Whoa has done to the other half of the people on here, who just happened to hold everything back ALL this time and decided to come out. To top that, I don't understand why some people put so much effort into registering specifying to make a claim against us.

Are we that bad?

We are a company. And the more we grow, more people will not be caught up with the rest of the vibe, "religion", and most importantly passion.

That doesn't mean it's the end. If you don't give people a chance, how do you expect them to succeed? He is a new sales person, it's my fault for letting him in the field of selling without informing, but it also doesn't mean that I'm aware of his tactics or said specific policies surrounded with aggression in marketing.

To say what was said in that ICQ conversation is ABSURD, and dying myself to get an answer. This is a major screw up and deserves a serious attention.

On a personal note, nobody really cared when Like Whoa was just starting out and was bombarded constantly by other hosting companies with negative feedback... some even anonymously did it. Doesn't give us an approval to do the same back, because somebody has to be smarter. And if it's not my company, then I'm doing a poor job looking over it.

Constructive criticizm is good. And with no sarcasm at all, taken into serious consideration.

I don't think LikeWhoa has ANY sales people (Besides Stan)... but they do offer "X" percentage affiliate commission on BW useage and it's my guess this was some jackass contacting you with a lame sales approach claiming they're a representative of LikeWhoa Inc.

Choker's a sharp motherfucker and LikeWhoa's my host so.. fuckit. I hope you both figure out a happy medium.
L8R,


SixNine

Whatever man, you see here that some people like your reps icqing them, some don't. I hate it myself. And a lot of people, many I don't even know have came out and attacked me because I complained about this practice that obviously your company endorses. Believe it or not I feel very bad about the new rep, first day on the job and all. I have heard nothing but good about your hosting, but surelly you see by now that you need to change your icq marketing methods.

LOL... Seth, what's up man...

We actually do have a few, right now, count is up to five, not including Stan or me ;-)

And yes, many resellers and many of our clients who support us and participate in our channel marketing programs.

You put anybody whose job is to sell, aggression is a first step to accomplish, knowledgeable sales people can control it, newbies cannot. It's a fact.

What the hell one last thing in defense of LikeWhoa...

At the show Nick stood in front of his techs and told me if my box ever went down whoever was on shift would be fired. I'm sure whoever fucked the dog on ICQ (if anyone) is going to be in deep shit.:feels-hot

SixNine

[[email protected] - Tue Sep 10 19:52:53 2002]:

> Just testing your response time...please reply back with a time stamp
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> Time Stamp: 7:54pm


Like Whoa Support Team

8:10pm

Whoa Support.

He's not lying...... :1orglaugh

I own my own hosting company... and I still think Like Whoa rules.

Brad

Choker.. ICQ is good, people love our instant support over ICQ, so one of the approved methods to do sales is ICQ as well... nothing wrong with that.

An approach taken by sales reps, that's another story.

"At the show Nick stood in front of his techs and told me if my box ever went down whoever was on shift would be fired"

thats all? just fired? no broken bones? what the hell kinda host is likewhoa? HAHAHAHAHA :)

come on tukhman, you know brooklyn, i am sure if an admin fucks up you could do a bit more then someone getting fired hehe :)

but anyways man

yeah i respect likewhoa, just get on top of your marketing hehe. kinda sucks to see companies bash each other like what your rep said. no need for it, there is lots of customers for the taking.

anyways man take care and i hope this ends on a good note with you and choker ;)

Had the same problem with a Likewhoa bitch... he sounded like a 19 year old teen, like all the guys working there.

He was harrassing me on ICQ, and pretty much said I was a dumbass not to get a better deal with THEM.

WTF, I will NEVER EVER host with Likewhoa...even that Tukhman act like a fucking kid. I'm sure he's not older than 21.


Anyway, it's fucking pathetic to try to pick clients from other hosting company.

haaa !I can do better.
NOC repies back to me in 20 seconds!
Every fucking time!

i am not anti-spam kinda guy

spam should just be regulated depending on whats being promoted..

whats likewhoa been up to these days anyways?

$tantheman contact me via ICQ when you see this... witch im sure you will...

I hate McDonalds apple pie. If I wanted a damn apple pie I would just ask for one.

I specifically say, "Could I have a #9 no cheese (cause it's pure oil and coloring). Supersize that please. Yes, I'd like an orange drink with that. $5.67? Ok, thank you, I'll drive around"

Did you see me say "Hmm... those apple pies sure look good. I think I might want to try one today." Or, "I had an apple pie last week, it sure was tasty!"?

NO

So why do they think they are not annoying me when I make my order and they say, 'Would you like an apple pie with that?'

No I fuckin wouldn't! Impress me and say 'Would you like a #9 with no cheese today?'

Tell me, 'Sir, I bet you would like an orange drink with that!?'

That's what I'm waiting to hear from those McDonalds idiots! That's the service I come to expect from a company that's sold over 99,000,000,000 burgers! Damn, Damn, Damn! Ray Krock should be rolling in his grave.

Oh, I like Like Whoa's Adult Centro and All Liquid. I can't wait to use AC. That's the only relevant thing I have to add to this thread before it dies and I'm sure it's about to.

This is my first post to this board, I have had an interesting run in with Like Whoa hosting,

I called them to complain about a site that they host that was hotlinking my site. I could not get them to do anything about it, the strange part is I called the owner of the site that was hotlinking and he told me to tough fix your Htaccess, so I called his host Like Whoa and guess who answered the phone the same guy!

Then they start spamming and calling me to host with them!

They Spam me with e-mails about once a week, they even called the number I have listed on my domains asking the same questions.

They asked how much I spend, I said I have a non-discloser agreement and that I would not tell them, I gave them my specs of what I need and after all this I never hear back, not that I would ever change who I host with anyway I figured that they could not give me what I needed and would leave me only.

Regards,

Kevin

Nick
fuck the haters get with the players. Don't let this thread get to you.

Looks like you built a great sales team. A little agressive but I like it. They had me on the hook for a while but You don't see me complaining. at least you know there doing there Job.

Some people Just don't get this biz. Like I said earlier in the thread don't burn bridges because you never know when you will need them.

Fuck I get shit from shaw patrol on my post all the time.

We are all here to help each other and make more money.
If your not :321GFY

I don't see how anyone can complain about ICQ spam... You didn't even have to fucking ICQ authorize LikeWhoa in the first place...

Simple fact that the most aggressive people that get ahead in this shit -- how can you blame them? Fucking Amateur Pages spams me all the time -- do you see me bitching out Lensman on GFY? Hell Boneprone was a major nuisance when we first met the guy would ICQ me fucking all day long -- then he gets into a fight with picwarehouse.com or some shit -- always bitching about his link -- Boneprone and his temper I thought he was a thug -- getting into fights with other webmasters -- eventually I realized that it's the most vocal webmasters that get ahead... Now I see it happen again and again...

Very true, funny how when someone notices some competition in their arena, they will pull all sort of lame tricks to bring them down and in many cases it only fails and actually increases their exposure.

no commento :2 cents:

all marketing which is targeted at a single person is SPAM
meaning an ad on tv or a website isnt but when someone has to email you, call you, msg you, fax you its a straight up spam weather its to one person or 1million its all spam


funny thing is we all hate spam but when someone needs something on this board and others the last words out of there mouth is always spam me with what you got lol so we all get what we ask for ay :)

Matty

"eventually I realized that it's the most vocal webmasters that get ahead... Now I see it happen again and again..."


Huh?.....what is your definition of getting ahead?

Ahead in what?

what was the catch?

I got the free traffic but there never was any catch that I noticed.

I don't care, I have a cool ALL Liquid Cigar and Like Whoa T-Shirt, Im Happy!

Oh, and Choker, we been hittin it up over ICQ a lot and I do buy your traffic.

Yes, they are aggressive, but Alexx over at Like Whoa, has given me a killer deal on hosting, it beat out my Rackshack unmetered in a heartbeat.

Although, I was a little upset like you when initially contacted, I listened and spoke with Alexx, and got the deal.

Macro

Ok, let me clarify...

If likewhoa asked me once. Fine. Likewhoa asked me at the show, and even though I'd been through it with their online guys before, and 2 other reps at the show I was nice. But these guys don't keep up on their notes.

Once I say, I'm happy with my current hosting, I'd like them to back off. But I've gotten like 6 reps now asking me shit. If you are gunna spam, keep up with who said no.

That's all I'm saying

And I think comparing spam to anal sex is about the funniest truthful anology I've heard since forever.

TarPy

I thought this thread was dead. Hornybunny you moran I don't sell hosting. And you are nothing more than a leech. I have yet to see anyone post defending your Asian traffic you try to sell. Only posts about how you ripped people off. You make people afraid to buy traffic ever again and thus you hurt me in the long run. I have no problem with people like you competeting with me, except that you copied my tgps and follow me like a dog watching every move I make, only to try to copy it in every detail. When you get an original idea of your own, maybe you will be able to make something of yourself. You try to act like you are some big company and put other sites who sell traffic down in order to promote yourself. The truth is you have been in this business 6 months and are a one person operation just like me. You are a blood sucking mosquito who is going to get squashed.

I was messaged by one of LW's "sales reps" a few weeks ago.. same questions, how much b/w etc. They were very aggressive, but also friendly, otherwise i would have used ignore after telling them i wasn't interested and no longer wished to speak with them.

As the conversation went on i could see where it was going and having just changed hosts a few days ago, didnt feel like another switch.. all those name servers to switch over.. a damn hassle.. i just kept on adding things to my list of "what you need to give me to make me change my mind" and eventually i got a kick ass deal. This is how the business should and needs to work, imho.

cheers