CSS/Design Gurus...

[Andre]

Who can show me some of the PURE (i.e. table less) CSS designs they've done? I'm not talking about blogs. Post links in the thread.

I have a project in mind and it will be CSS all the way. I'm hoping I will find the right designer here.

[Chio]

Originally Posted by Andre

Who can show me some of the PURE (i.e. table less) CSS designs they've done? I'm not talking about blogs. Post links in the thread.

I have a project in mind and it will be CSS all the way. I'm hoping I will find the right designer here.

www.bliggo.com
www.feedpushers.com

A redesign of verifiedcharge will be tableless as well as some other nice stuff coming.

[Andre]

Originally Posted by Chio

www.bliggo.com
www.feedpushers.com

A redesign of verifiedcharge will be tableless as well as some other nice stuff coming.

Looking good. Did you code those?

[Azlord]

Here are some gallery templates that are all CSS/Tableless, nothing fancy, but clean and standards compliant

Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
Example 4

[Andre]

Originally Posted by Azlord

Here are some gallery templates that are all CSS/Tableless, nothing fancy, but clean and standards compliant

Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
Example 4

Have you compared and have SE stats that show difference between traditional gallery design vs. CSS? In other words, you think your CSS galleries get better SE placement?

[Deej]

I am becoming somewhat of a css ninja, though ive never hand crafted a css tabless site from scratch, i plan to when im not so busy...

I know i can assist you or make your site for you , if you need a seasoned vet then...;. be my guest the people are here... Harvey is good.


http://www.sin20.com - working on this to even things out still... my latest tableless project. blog yes, but not the normal.

hit me up to talk shop if you'd like ICQ - 30096880

[Altheon]

All I have to say is good luck. I've made a few sites from the ground up with no tables and dealing with the IE Vs. Mozilla CSS hacks is a pain in the rear.

[Twisted Dave]

Do your CSS right and you'll have no probs Altheon. CSS is WAY more efficient and a much better system than tables etc. And to get things working in IE and FF, you don't have to 'hack' anything ... you just have to make sure every specific CSS function is used correctly

[Scroto]

this was my first go at css -- http://www.free-sex.com/

needs a bit of tuning, but wtf

[potter]

I don't have the time.

[TheDoc]

YappoDollars has no tables and the Signup Form is all css. But I'm not for hire for design work, just showing off the css work

[harvey]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

YappoDollars has no tables and the Signup Form is all css. But I'm not for hire for design work, just showing off the css work

you've a couple errors in your CSS, nothing big, but you may want to take a look

@ Andre: I'm what you could call a CSS guru. And about your question on SE and galleries... there are ways to use CSS to make your galleries a SE candy

[harvey]

Deej, pls contact me, I can't add you on ICQ

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by harvey

you've a couple errors in your CSS, nothing big, but you may want to take a look

While I built the css/layout of yappodollars, I don't own it. Clients make adjustments to the files all the time. Then again, the yappo css has no more errors in it than yours do.

Andre also asked for a site design build in css that has no tables, which is exactly what my sample provided.

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Building a hosted gallery in css vs clean html/tables does not improve your search engine rankings or listings at all. A gallery is no different than a website, it requires targeted text, proper out-bound anchor text and proper in-bound related anchor text on the in-bound links.

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[GeXus]

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

Do your CSS right and you'll have no probs Altheon. CSS is WAY more efficient and a much better system than tables etc. And to get things working in IE and FF, you don't have to 'hack' anything ... you just have to make sure every specific CSS function is used correctly

That's actually not true, but ok.

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by GeXus

That's actually not true, but ok.

Yes actually, it is. You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa.

Not only will you site load way faster, load in proper logical order... but you can just do way more with a CSS design than you can with tables.

[GeXus]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Yes actually, it is. You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa.

Not only will you site load way faster, load in proper logical order... but you can just do way more with a CSS design than you can with tables.

Thanks Captain Obvious, I was referring to the "don't have to 'hack' anything" comment. IE adds padding spacing to the actual width of the element, where as Firefox does not, in order to fix this, you have to have another container that you apply the padding to, thus applying a "hack" that you normally would not need.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by GeXus

Thanks Captain Obvious, I was referring to the "don't have to 'hack' anything" comment. IE adds padding spacing to the actual width of the element, where as Firefox does not, in order to fix this, you have to have another container that you apply the padding to, thus applying a "hack" that you normally would not need.

You don't have to add another container, you can write css and format the page, the same.. with ie and ff if you write it all correctly. Yes will have some minor space issues but padding is easily taken care of.

StuartD... You can not use css for all table needs.

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

You don't have to add another container, you can write css and format the page, the same.. with ie and ff if you write it all correctly. Yes will have some minor space issues but padding is easily taken care of.

StuartD... You can not use css for all table needs.

I never said you can use CSS for all of table's needs. I still recommend that data be in a table, spreadsheet style. That's what a table is intended for.
I'm talking about design. You should never need a table for the design of a page except to display data output of some kind.

And as for the hacking thing... I have NEVER needed an IE hack to make my CSS work in both IE and Firefox.

Using STRICT in your doctypes eliminates MOST of the inconsistencies and beyond that, just rethinking your CSS a little fixes most everything else.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by StuartD

I never said you can use CSS for all of table's needs. I still recommend that data be in a table, spreadsheet style. That's what a table is intended for.
I'm talking about design. You should never need a table for the design of a page except to display data output of some kind.

And as for the hacking thing... I have NEVER needed an IE hack to make my CSS work in both IE and Firefox.

Using STRICT in your doctypes eliminates MOST of the inconsistencies and beyond that, just rethinking your CSS a little fixes most everything else.

I was just going off of what you said "You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa."

And the css working in ie/ff was for GeXus

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I was just going off of what you said "You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa."

And the css working in ie/ff was for GeXus

Well, the truth is that you can recreate any table design with CSS... you can make a spreadsheet style data layout in CSS easy enough.
It's just not recommended as that's what the table really is for anyway.

[Andre]

Well, after all this I am curious if anyone can show an entire adult site tour designed with CSS?

[dtoolbox]

My Css Table less sample http://www.pornweavers.net/football-babes/fb082807/

i can code from the scratch using notepad

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Well, the truth is that you can recreate any table design with CSS... you can make a spreadsheet style data layout in CSS easy enough.
It's just not recommended as that's what the table really is for anyway.

I agree that spitting out standard tables, rows or cols of data can easy be done with a wide mixture of css features.

I was thinking more towards paysite tours.. Yes, the majority could be or should be fully css based, everyone can see our industry is mad behind on this. Some paysites though are complex as hell in design/layout, it wouldn't be logical to build it all in css.

Maybe I could convert it over, but I look at the size. As long as it's an inner table and use css for structure around it, and control the table elements. I used less lines and data, before the css duplicate was even half way completed.

I haven't noticed any issues with the se's reading text within 1 layer of table, or before/after or between many 1 layer tables.

I'm sure at some point of just wanting to screw with it, anything can become possible. Like html/tables, CSS can get overly bulky and slow down too.

[harvey]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Then again, the yappo css has no more errors in it than yours do.

so you're comparing the css for a 3rd party script with code made from scratch? mmmmkay....

anyway, was trying to be helpful, just do whatever you want, as if I care

[pornpf69]

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