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  • Andre
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    • Oct 2002
    • 1156
    #1

    CSS/Design Gurus...

    Who can show me some of the PURE (i.e. table less) CSS designs they've done? I'm not talking about blogs. Post links in the thread.

    I have a project in mind and it will be CSS all the way. I'm hoping I will find the right designer here.
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    • Chio
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2002
      • 8002
      #2
      Originally posted by Andre
      Who can show me some of the PURE (i.e. table less) CSS designs they've done? I'm not talking about blogs. Post links in the thread.

      I have a project in mind and it will be CSS all the way. I'm hoping I will find the right designer here.
      www.bliggo.com
      www.feedpushers.com

      A redesign of verifiedcharge will be tableless as well as some other nice stuff coming.

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        • Andre
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2002
          • 1156
          #3
          Originally posted by Chio
          www.bliggo.com
          www.feedpushers.com

          A redesign of verifiedcharge will be tableless as well as some other nice stuff coming.
          Looking good. Did you code those?

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            • Azlord
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2003
              • 2651
              #4
              Here are some gallery templates that are all CSS/Tableless, nothing fancy, but clean and standards compliant

              Example 1
              Example 2
              Example 3
              Example 4

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                • Andre
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 1156
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Azlord
                  Here are some gallery templates that are all CSS/Tableless, nothing fancy, but clean and standards compliant

                  Example 1
                  Example 2
                  Example 3
                  Example 4
                  Have you compared and have SE stats that show difference between traditional gallery design vs. CSS? In other words, you think your CSS galleries get better SE placement?

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                    • Deej
                      I make pixels work
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 24386
                      #6
                      I am becoming somewhat of a css ninja, though ive never hand crafted a css tabless site from scratch, i plan to when im not so busy...

                      I know i can assist you or make your site for you , if you need a seasoned vet then...;. be my guest the people are here... Harvey is good.


                      http://www.sin20.com - working on this to even things out still... my latest tableless project. blog yes, but not the normal.

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                        • Altheon
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                          • May 2004
                          • 506
                          #7
                          All I have to say is good luck. I've made a few sites from the ground up with no tables and dealing with the IE Vs. Mozilla CSS hacks is a pain in the rear.

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                            • Twisted Dave
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                              • Mar 2006
                              • 3635
                              #8
                              Do your CSS right and you'll have no probs Altheon. CSS is WAY more efficient and a much better system than tables etc. And to get things working in IE and FF, you don't have to 'hack' anything ... you just have to make sure every specific CSS function is used correctly


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                                • Scroto
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2005
                                  • 2804
                                  #9
                                  this was my first go at css -- http://www.free-sex.com/

                                  needs a bit of tuning, but wtf

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                                    • potter
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 6559
                                      #10
                                      I don't have the time.

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                                        • TheDoc
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 13827
                                          #11
                                          YappoDollars has no tables and the Signup Form is all css. But I'm not for hire for design work, just showing off the css work
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                                            • harvey
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                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 9266
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                              YappoDollars has no tables and the Signup Form is all css. But I'm not for hire for design work, just showing off the css work
                                              you've a couple errors in your CSS, nothing big, but you may want to take a look

                                              @ Andre: I'm what you could call a CSS guru. And about your question on SE and galleries... there are ways to use CSS to make your galleries a SE candy
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                                                • harvey
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                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 9266
                                                  #13
                                                  Deej, pls contact me, I can't add you on ICQ
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                                                    • TheDoc
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                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 13827
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by harvey
                                                      you've a couple errors in your CSS, nothing big, but you may want to take a look
                                                      While I built the css/layout of yappodollars, I don't own it. Clients make adjustments to the files all the time. Then again, the yappo css has no more errors in it than yours do.

                                                      Andre also asked for a site design build in css that has no tables, which is exactly what my sample provided.

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                                                      Building a hosted gallery in css vs clean html/tables does not improve your search engine rankings or listings at all. A gallery is no different than a website, it requires targeted text, proper out-bound anchor text and proper in-bound related anchor text on the in-bound links.

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                                                        • GeXus
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                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 3320
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by twisted Illustration
                                                          Do your CSS right and you'll have no probs Altheon. CSS is WAY more efficient and a much better system than tables etc. And to get things working in IE and FF, you don't have to 'hack' anything ... you just have to make sure every specific CSS function is used correctly
                                                          That's actually not true, but ok.

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                                                            • StuartD
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 29903
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by GeXus
                                                              That's actually not true, but ok.
                                                              Yes actually, it is. You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa.

                                                              Not only will you site load way faster, load in proper logical order... but you can just do way more with a CSS design than you can with tables.
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                                                                • GeXus
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                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 3320
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                  Yes actually, it is. You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa.

                                                                  Not only will you site load way faster, load in proper logical order... but you can just do way more with a CSS design than you can with tables.
                                                                  Thanks Captain Obvious, I was referring to the "don't have to 'hack' anything" comment. IE adds padding spacing to the actual width of the element, where as Firefox does not, in order to fix this, you have to have another container that you apply the padding to, thus applying a "hack" that you normally would not need.

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                                                                    • TheDoc
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 13827
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by GeXus
                                                                      Thanks Captain Obvious, I was referring to the "don't have to 'hack' anything" comment. IE adds padding spacing to the actual width of the element, where as Firefox does not, in order to fix this, you have to have another container that you apply the padding to, thus applying a "hack" that you normally would not need.
                                                                      You don't have to add another container, you can write css and format the page, the same.. with ie and ff if you write it all correctly. Yes will have some minor space issues but padding is easily taken care of.

                                                                      StuartD... You can not use css for all table needs.
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                                                                        • StuartD
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                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 29903
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                          You don't have to add another container, you can write css and format the page, the same.. with ie and ff if you write it all correctly. Yes will have some minor space issues but padding is easily taken care of.

                                                                          StuartD... You can not use css for all table needs.
                                                                          I never said you can use CSS for all of table's needs. I still recommend that data be in a table, spreadsheet style. That's what a table is intended for.
                                                                          I'm talking about design. You should never need a table for the design of a page except to display data output of some kind.

                                                                          And as for the hacking thing... I have NEVER needed an IE hack to make my CSS work in both IE and Firefox.

                                                                          Using STRICT in your doctypes eliminates MOST of the inconsistencies and beyond that, just rethinking your CSS a little fixes most everything else.
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                                                                            • TheDoc
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 13827
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                              I never said you can use CSS for all of table's needs. I still recommend that data be in a table, spreadsheet style. That's what a table is intended for.
                                                                              I'm talking about design. You should never need a table for the design of a page except to display data output of some kind.

                                                                              And as for the hacking thing... I have NEVER needed an IE hack to make my CSS work in both IE and Firefox.

                                                                              Using STRICT in your doctypes eliminates MOST of the inconsistencies and beyond that, just rethinking your CSS a little fixes most everything else.
                                                                              I was just going off of what you said "You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa."

                                                                              And the css working in ie/ff was for GeXus
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                                                                                • StuartD
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                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 29903
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                  I was just going off of what you said "You can recreate ANY table design with CSS, but not vice versa."

                                                                                  And the css working in ie/ff was for GeXus
                                                                                  Well, the truth is that you can recreate any table design with CSS... you can make a spreadsheet style data layout in CSS easy enough.
                                                                                  It's just not recommended as that's what the table really is for anyway.
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                                                                                    • Andre
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                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 1156
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Well, after all this I am curious if anyone can show an entire adult site tour designed with CSS?

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                                                                                        • dtoolbox
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                                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                                          • 507
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          My Css Table less sample http://www.pornweavers.net/football-babes/fb082807/

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                                                                                            • TheDoc
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 13827
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                              Well, the truth is that you can recreate any table design with CSS... you can make a spreadsheet style data layout in CSS easy enough.
                                                                                              It's just not recommended as that's what the table really is for anyway.
                                                                                              I agree that spitting out standard tables, rows or cols of data can easy be done with a wide mixture of css features.

                                                                                              I was thinking more towards paysite tours.. Yes, the majority could be or should be fully css based, everyone can see our industry is mad behind on this. Some paysites though are complex as hell in design/layout, it wouldn't be logical to build it all in css.

                                                                                              Maybe I could convert it over, but I look at the size. As long as it's an inner table and use css for structure around it, and control the table elements. I used less lines and data, before the css duplicate was even half way completed.

                                                                                              I haven't noticed any issues with the se's reading text within 1 layer of table, or before/after or between many 1 layer tables.

                                                                                              I'm sure at some point of just wanting to screw with it, anything can become possible. Like html/tables, CSS can get overly bulky and slow down too.
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                                                                                                • harvey
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 9266
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                  Then again, the yappo css has no more errors in it than yours do.
                                                                                                  so you're comparing the css for a 3rd party script with code made from scratch? mmmmkay....

                                                                                                  anyway, was trying to be helpful, just do whatever you want, as if I care
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                                                                                                    • pornpf69
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                      • 15782
                                                                                                      #26
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