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Old 08-25-2007, 10:32 AM   #1
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Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu used in a real life situation **VIDEO**

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=397_1187905672

That is a professional way a situation should be handle.

The guard took him down and applied a rear naked choke aka RNC.

He tapped via putting his hands.


Now, go and train your Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:41 AM   #2
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I'm gonna think twice before I start shit at Denver Greyhound station next time I'm around :D
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:42 AM   #3
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What did the guy exactly do?
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:45 AM   #4
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check this out: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=796_1187303355
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:47 AM   #5
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"what happened man... why am i in handcuff on the gound surrounded by a bunch of people ... i didnt do anything ... where am i?"

lol nice try, buddy..
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:52 AM   #6
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:54 AM   #7
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What did the guy exactly do?


"Tresspassing"

Cool video, but come on... how the fuck do you trespass on an open bus station and how do rent-a-cops have permission to use potentially lethal force to subdue fleeing "trespassers"?

Trespassing means you're on property you're not welcome on. It seems to me that fleeing the property fixes the situation.

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Old 08-25-2007, 10:56 AM   #8
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"Tresspassing"

Cool video, but come on... how the fuck do you trespass on an open bus station and how do rent-a-cops have permission to use potentially lethal force to subdue fleeing "trespassers"?

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Properly applied blood chokes are not lethal.

Greyhound's private property is just as private as your house. You don't have the right to be there if they don't want you there.

I agree it was a bit over the top for tresspassing though.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:05 AM   #9
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Properly applied blood chokes are not lethal.

Greyhound's private property is just as private as your house. You don't have the right to be there if they don't want you there.

I agree it was a bit over the top for tresspassing though.
"trespassing" in cases like this are usually a simple excuse to detain someone for whatever reason. most likely he was doing something illegal, had been there many times doing something illegal/wrong and had been asked to leave etc etc etc.

its not like security guards just arbitrarily decided "this guy is trespassing, lets detain him" - more like "oh fuck... this sorry prick is back, doing the same shit he has been warned not to do time and time again... lets detain him and call the police"
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:12 AM   #10
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its not like security guards just arbitrarily decided "this guy is trespassing,

Except you don't know that, I don't know that, and that EXACT thing happens all the time. I agree that the person is often panhandling or causing a ruckus, but it's silly to assume that someone in a position of authority is only exercising that authority in a just manner.

I don't care that much in this situation because no one seems to have gotten hurt, but lifelong experience has taught me that people with authority abuse it consistently and constantly with very few exceptions.

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Old 08-25-2007, 11:15 AM   #11
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those guys have guns, i guess he's lucky
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:16 AM   #12
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Trespassing, seriously?? .. It only makes sense if the guy comes in and makes trouble on a regular basis: one possibility.

Or maybe they're just psycho mall-ninjas on a power trip.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:16 AM   #13
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Except you don't know that, I don't know that, and that EXACT thing happens all the time. I agree that the person is often panhandling or causing a ruckus, but it's silly to assume that someone in a position of authority is only exercising that authority in a just manner.

I don't care that much in this situation because no one seems to have gotten hurt, but lifelong experience has taught me that people with authority abuse it consistently and constantly with very few exceptions.

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look you stupid fucking jackass... i dont have to know anything. you dont know anything. doesn't that point matter?

why is my not knowing just ignorant and your not knowing a safe assumption that "The Man" is up to no good?

fact: in these types of public places "trespassing" charges are a common way of dealing with people who shouldn't be there doing what they are doing.

what do i know? i know a fucking idiot that allegedly wasn't accused of anything tried to bolt from security guards. hardly a strong display of innocence of any crime or wrongdoing.

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Old 08-25-2007, 11:34 AM   #14
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:39 AM   #15
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I agree it was a bit over the top for tresspassing though.
yeah, i dont think you're allowed to put someone in a chokehold if they're leaving your property after trespassing either.

and im not saying his fighting method didnt work, but i dont think a great way to judge it would be to show a video of him tackling a guy from behind.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:46 PM   #16
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The guy went into a position on the ground that made it real easy for the security guy to perform that choke hold
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:49 PM   #17
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that was a good choke i guess... but pretty unfair.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:51 PM   #18
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LOL, your intelligent well-reasoned response has changed my mind! Thank you for spewing useless invective and not saying anything of substance.

I won't waste too much of my time pointing out the obvious idiocy in your post, I'll content myself with this bit:

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look you stupid fucking jackass... i dont have to know anything. you dont know anything. doesn't that point matter?
You're the one who made up some silly bullshit story as to why they tackled the guy, yet <i>you don't know shit</i> about what happened off camera.

I'm sorry that your fragile self-esteem is so caught up in being right over an internet video.

Edit: I tried to leave it there, I really did, but the stupid in this part just couldn't be ignored:

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what do i know? i know a fucking idiot that allegedly wasn't accused of anything tried to bolt from security guards. hardly a strong display of innocence of any crime or wrongdoing.
Running is admission of guilt for "something" now, huh? You have a deep and penetrating grasp of both the law and human nature. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.

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Old 08-25-2007, 12:52 PM   #19
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Properly applied blood chokes are not lethal.
You know how many blacks LAPD has taken out via that hold?
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You're the one who made up some silly bullshit story as to why they tackled the guy, yet <i>you don't know shit</i> about what happened off camera.
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Lol, yeah, I tried to edit, but my three minutes was up. Oh, well.

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You know how many blacks LAPD has taken out via that hold?
You might be confusing a similar air choke with the blood choke. Air chokes are much more dangerous.
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Whats the big deal? why praise the rentacop? The guy tripped and gave it to the cop on a silver platter and then offered zero resistance... standard police work would have sufficed.
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Running is admission of guilt for "something" now, huh? You have a deep and penetrating grasp of both the law and human nature. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.

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yeah... running is not something people do for no reason whatsoever.

grow up. unless you are 15 yrs old or your dad raped you... you should be well past the whole "question authority and automatically assume they are in the wrong" phase


one more time... for the not so bright.

i haven't assumed anything other that what evidence the video shows.

1) a guy is detained by security
2) there is an allegation of "trespassing"
3) he tries to run from them and is tackled, choked and handcuffed

the guy was most likely there doing something that he had been warned repeatedly not to do, was asked to leave and wouldn't... or was banned and kept returning... hence the "trespassing" part which is the usual charge on private property for someone who is not welcome... be it a shopping mall or anywhere else.

since your are too mentallly weak to reason through things... let me spell this out for you. NO ONE has the authority or right to detain you unless you have comitted a crime or are suspected of comitting a crime and police have been called. In this case, the ones detaining him are alleging that he did which would be "trespassing"... AND they have obviously called the police to deal with the matter since they aren't police and otherwise have no legal authority or right to physically detain someone. again, normal and standard operating procedure.

so... guy is held by security... it can be reasonably assumed that they are waiting for police and he tries to run.

for any intelligent person who hasn't been raped by their father or molested by a priest or otherwise abused by an authority figure, thus developing a severe issue with authority... thats strikes 1, 2 and 3 for him.

1) he was detained... which one could reasonably assume is for some cause
2) police were called ... which one could reasonably assume was the case as it usually is and being that they have no legal authority to hold him otherwise.
3) he tries to run - not exactly the action of someone who has no idea whats going on or can say with 100% confidence that he has done nothing wrong.
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That security guy should be arrested for his abuse ... wtf, he's not a cop, and that guy didn't do anything ... running is not illegal.
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