ATTN: Real-Bucks.com - INSIDE NOW! (Drama RE: CyberXXX)

[Jace]

Look, I do what I can for the rss/blog community, I work with a LOT of bloggers and find feeds and tools they can use, a lot of people appreciate it

As of right now I am banning all real-bucks.com rss feeds from my newsletters, blog and lists until that idiot you have working for you, cyberxxx, is put in his place.

he steals ideas every chance he gets, period....plenty of people can provide plenty of proof on that one.

I am done with this russian scammer, I suggest you all do the same

since I have started fighting with this dude at least 5 people have come forward and let me know how he scammed them or stole ideas from them too....

I think we should all be done with this russian scammer, this is getting out of hand

[Jace]

Real-Bucks.com has been removed from
http://www.justjace.com/2007/08/13/u...ds-that-i-use/

[12clicks]

I'm sure they'll miss the three clicks.

[Ditosta]

Hey Jace we are getting our feeds together soon I will be hitting you up for your feedback! I just visited your site.. That "NIce and smooth" quote rocks!

[Jace]

ATTN:

CyberXXX, the known russian scammer, has access to the backend of real-bucks.com, he just proved it in another thread

do you feel safe with your money there now?

[Jace]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I'm sure they'll miss the three clicks.

i actually send out approx 32k search engine hits to various programs each week

[Jace]

you know what, fuck it, all these russians programs and people are the same, only out to fuck everyone else and steal shit

cyberxxx>ignore

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Jace

i actually send out approx 32k search engine hits to various programs each week

id spend less time on the "look at me" posts and more time on traffic building then

[Jace]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

id spend less time on the "look at me" posts and more time on traffic building then

I do fine, thanks for caring

besides I have no time to become a "traffic monkey", I much prefer working the way I am

[Jace]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

id spend less time on the "look at me" posts and more time on traffic building then

how is your personal traffic network coming along? how many sales have you generated today from your personal sites?

[candyflip]

I posted this in the other thread, but you keep saying that he steals ideas. What's that all about? I use his plugins and would love to make sure my ass is covered.

[TerryMiller]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I posted this in the other thread, but you keep saying that he steals ideas. What's that all about? I use his plugins and would love to make sure my ass is covered.

Any program that gives Cyberxxx access to their server is walking into a lions den blindfolded. He gives Russians such a bad name. There are so many good Russians and he is not one of them. Recently he fucked up a program's rss feeds where affiliates sales were not tracked. The problem is folks, do you think that program will ever admit it?

Where there is smoke there is fire. Ever notice how many enemies he has? Think its a coincidence? Well listen up people and be aware and watch out who you deal with. You will get fucked. Who you gonna trust Jace or a scammer?

[Jace]

Originally Posted by TerryMiller

He gives Russians such a bad name.

that is 3 PEOPLE today who have said that EXACT same thing...LOL

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by TerryMiller

Any program that gives Cyberxxx access to their server is walking into a lions den blindfolded. He gives Russians such a bad name. There are so many good Russians and he is not one of them. Recently he fucked up a program's rss feeds where affiliates sales were not tracked. The problem is folks, do you think that program will ever admit it?

Where there is smoke there is fire. Ever notice how many enemies he has? Think its a coincidence? Well listen up people and be aware and watch out who you deal with. You will get fucked. Who you gonna trust Jace or a scammer?

He sold me a wordpress plugin. I installed it myself, just as I have from people I've never even spoken to. I've had questions and they've been answered. The only time I've ever seen him mentioned as a scammer has been by people who perceive him to be competition of some sort.

I could be wrong, but my experience with him has been positive, and as he's had no access to my server I don't feel I'm in a position to be scammed.

[TerryMiller]

Originally Posted by candyflip

He sold me a wordpress plugin. I installed it myself, just as I have from people I've never even spoken to. I've had questions and they've been answered. The only time I've ever seen him mentioned as a scammer has been by people who perceive him to be competition of some sort.

I could be wrong, but my experience with him has been positive, and as he's had no access to my server I don't feel I'm in a position to be scammed.

Thats usually how scammers work, build trust and rapport and then get you. I'm sure its cool, just telling you to be careful.

Actually if you check some of his other posts you will see he deals in rape sites which can not be processed in the USA or many other countries, he openly supports his friends at EST host/domains who have stolen tons of tgp traffic with their spyware and coming up in the future we are going to see some nice drama that has nothing to do with blogs but it does have to do with theft and shady business practices.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by TerryMiller

Thats usually how scammers work, build trust and rapport and then get you. I'm sure its cool, just telling you to be careful.

Actually if you check some of his other posts you will see he deals in rape sites which can not be processed in the USA or many other countries, he openly supports his friends at EST host/domains who have stolen tons of tgp traffic with their spyware and coming up in the future we are going to see some nice drama that has nothing to do with blogs but it does have to do with theft and shady business practices.

Yeah, and there's also a lot of fakenick slagging of others that goes on here too. No offense, but I've never seen your name here before...so I'm not sure I can trust your word either. You're not offering anything to back up your claims. I've heard a few whisperings here about him, but nothing to say exactly what he's been involved in. Like I said, it's almost always from people who see him as competition...so for the most part it's idle chatter.

Again, I don't think I'm at risk. I downloaded the plugin, checked it over myself and installed it. No one had access to my server and my experience with support has been great.

What's silly is seeing grown adult argue like kids, especially when I happen to like both teams

[Jace]

Originally Posted by candyflip

He sold me a wordpress plugin. I installed it myself, just as I have from people I've never even spoken to. I've had questions and they've been answered. The only time I've ever seen him mentioned as a scammer has been by people who perceive him to be competition of some sort.

I could be wrong, but my experience with him has been positive, and as he's had no access to my server I don't feel I'm in a position to be scammed.

well, the problem is that he steals ideas/products, rebuilds them and sells them, so naturally the people he steals ideas from are going to bitch, if that is what you refer to as "competition" then so be it...to me that is his "victims"

there have been some enlightening conversation on icq tonight that is for sure, he is VERY deep in the scammer/thief rabbit hole, and most of it has nothing to do with blogs/rss shit, this is fucking over people in this bix you DO NOT want to fuck with, totally respectable people

btw, I got to see a copy of that wordpress plugin "cyberseo" he has been selling, nice to see he didn't even create the whole thing from scratch, he took an open source code, modified it, and is now selling it, with the NOT FOR COMMERCIAL use tags still in place in the code...LOL

but, being from russia, these aren't things he needs to worry about

[Jace]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Yeah, and there's also a lot of fakenick slagging of others that goes on here too. No offense, but I've never seen your name here before...so I'm not sure I can trust your word either. You're not offering anything to back up your claims. I've heard a few whisperings here about him, but nothing to say exactly what he's been involved in. Like I said, it's almost always from people who see him as competition...so for the most part it's idle chatter.

Again, I don't think I'm at risk. I downloaded the plugin, checked it over myself and installed it. No one had access to my server and my experience with support has been great.

What's silly is seeing grown adult argue like kids, especially when I happen to like both teams

well, the issue that arises here is that he is from russia, a crappy part of russia with no usa guarding laws either, so all we can really do is bitch on a message board

again, you are not at risk for anything, this isn't about the plugin you downloaded...well, it is, but you have nothing to worry about, no one that bought anything from him has anything to worry about

[candyflip]

If he stole something or infringed upon something, quit dancing around it and say what he did. Why drag it on and on. Drop them bomb and let's get back to work.

Ideas are out there and being that there are 4 billion or so people on the earth, don't you think that it is quite possible that more than 1 might have had a similar idea?

Also, if you could post that code with the not for commercial tags in it, I'd appreciate it. I've got all the versions I've had installed and I'm not seeing anything like that. I really don't want to take any chances, but am not going to scrap the work I've put into things so far just because someone doesn't like someone else.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Jace

well, the issue that arises here is that he is from russia, a crappy part of russia with no usa guarding laws either, so all we can really do is bitch on a message board

again, you are not at risk for anything, this isn't about the plugin you downloaded...well, it is, but you have nothing to worry about, no one that bought anything from him has anything to worry about

You gotta admit though, it's not something someone in my position wants to hear without something to back it up.

Thanks for at least helping to reassure me. I'm JUST finally getting things revamped and upgraded and the last thing I need is to have to start from scratch.

Thanks man. I still need some installs, but I'm off to bed now. Hopefully we can chat soon. I'll even have that free hosting and the feeds to boot!

[Jace]

Originally Posted by candyflip

You gotta admit though, it's not something someone in my position wants to hear without something to back it up.

Thanks for at least helping to reassure me. I'm JUST finally getting things revamped and upgraded and the last thing I need is to have to start from scratch.

Thanks man. I still need some installs, but I'm off to bed now. Hopefully we can chat soon. I'll even have that free hosting and the feeds to boot!

cool man, hit me up tomorrow and let's chat

btw, if you need some free blog hosting hit me up, i turned one of my domains into a wordpress mu for my friends

[Jace]

Originally Posted by candyflip

If he stole something or infringed upon something, quit dancing around it and say what he did. Why drag it on and on. Drop them bomb and let's get back to work.

i already did

www.feedpushers.com - he took that exact idea from a thread he saw on gfy, even used pretty much the exact formatting that we are using for our morphing, then had the balls to say WE stole HIS idea for the software

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Jace

i already did

www.feedpushers.com - he took that exact idea from a thread he saw on gfy, even used pretty much the exact formatting that we are using for our morphing, then had the balls to say WE stole HIS idea for the software

See that for me was an add on bonus, I only cared initially about the ability to parse the affiliate code. This morphing stuff is icing. Similar idea though, but not the same execution. I have a basic idea of how it all works, and neither his plugin or feedpushers were the first I had seen of it. So I'm not too sure how that argument would play out. I will say that it will probably make for some good GFY entertainment

Once my feeds are where I like them, I will surely set up a few on your server and offer you a few on mine in return.

Ok...now I'm going to bed. I think.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I'm sure they'll miss the three clicks.

You have no idea how much business Jace has sent me. I'd estimate over $150,000 in the past two months. Is there a sponsor he doesn't know, or that doesn't respect him? Doesn't seem like it, by what people are saying in ICQ. Every program owner I talk to loves Jace.

But go back to making fun of a guy who's a bigger player than you are, I guess.

[darksoul]

I'm still interested to find out whats this idea he stole from you.
I truly hope you don't mean rewriting rss feeds because that would be laughable.

[HighEnergy]

'Morphing' has been around for years (1995) in various forms, since the beginning of PHP/FI. By no means has anybody on this board conceived the idea.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by darksoul

I'm still interested to find out whats this idea he stole from you.
I truly hope you don't mean rewriting rss feeds because that would be laughable.

oh hell no, rewriting an rss feed has been around since rss came to be ;)

[Jace]

Originally Posted by HighEnergy

'Morphing' has been around for years (1995) in various forms, since the beginning of PHP/FI. By no means has anybody on this board conceived the idea.

you are correct, morphing has been around for years also

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

id spend less time on the "look at me" posts and more time on traffic building then

If Jace is sending out over 32,000 in SE hits a week, and considering a conservative estimate of 1:500 for it, you're looking at over 3300 sales a year. Not a bad affiliate to have.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

If Jace is sending out over 32,000 in SE hits a week, and considering a conservative estimate of 1:500 for it, you're looking at over 3300 sales a year. Not a bad affiliate to have.

His big numbers are also in the referred webmaster category. I've signed up to a couple of programs blindly, based only on him saying they were good.

You're right -- not a bad affiliate to have at all. I saw his stats console say he'd referred 22 webmasters to a program he barely promotes .. I dunno how long that period was, but however long, that's a nice affiliate for sure.

[shageman]

This is a very interesting thread. Either way its competition that is being crucified on the boards for some make believe reason. The idea that he stole the make believe idea that you guys thought about morphing feeds is nuts. I have spoken with CyberXXX and he doesn't want the drama, I spoke with him before the launch of FeedPushers and he then didn't want the drama. Congradulation on both of you coming out with a product that will help the bloggers out. Now the thing is the idea, now if one person made a product and no one else could put a twist to it, where would the industry be? One tgp script, one trade script, fuck one affiliate program, would be nuts. I have looked at both programs and they are similiar in one regard they morph, other then that they are different, one is a wp addon the other is a stand alone, one uses several paragraphs to make one post, the other uses the same paragraph only to morph the words you tell it to, one offers you image count, the other dont. Now with said bitching Auto Blogger Pro should be getting screamed at by wpmassinstaller, wpmanagerdx, blog solution etc, but they arnt on here screaming bloody murder of a little competition. I think both of you have a similiar product but different in alot of ways, but to take a program off and start a thread about them is childish esp when no grounds are to be said. Hes russian hes bad news, fuck want me to show you a list of americans, canadians who have ripped me off the last year, show you a list of sponsors who owed me money who closed up shop, if thats the only thing you have against him is that hes competition and that hes russian say that, dont go on a long thread about how he stole your sole idea of morphing text. I would like to finish with I wish both companies luck as i think the competition will make a great product.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

You have no idea how much business Jace has sent me. I'd estimate over $150,000 in the past two months. Is there a sponsor he doesn't know, or that doesn't respect him? Doesn't seem like it, by what people are saying in ICQ. Every program owner I talk to loves Jace.

But go back to making fun of a guy who's a bigger player than you are, I guess.

wow, you small ponders sure talk a big game.
I feel completely chastised.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

If Jace is sending out over 32,000 in SE hits a week, and considering a conservative estimate of 1:500 for it, you're looking at over 3300 sales a year. Not a bad affiliate to have.

Jace has done very well for himself with organic SE results using RSS and blogs.

At least you can see actual value for his $ervice$.

No chest beating ... just checks.

[shageman]

No one is saying Jace isn't very smart in blogs, one of the top guys i know in blogs

[Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

id spend less time on the "look at me" posts and more time on traffic building then

Why don't you follow your own advice?

How many hits 12clickcash gets a day across all sites? 100? 200?

[Jace]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Jace has done very well for himself with organic SE results using RSS and blogs.

At least you can see actual value for his $ervice$.

No chest beating ... just checks.

no i haven't, I am horrible at what I do

if the old timers say it is so, it must be

[Jace]

Originally Posted by shageman

This is a very interesting thread. Either way its competition that is being crucified on the boards for some make believe reason. The idea that he stole the make believe idea that you guys thought about morphing feeds is nuts. I have spoken with CyberXXX and he doesn't want the drama, I spoke with him before the launch of FeedPushers and he then didn't want the drama. Congradulation on both of you coming out with a product that will help the bloggers out. Now the thing is the idea, now if one person made a product and no one else could put a twist to it, where would the industry be? One tgp script, one trade script, fuck one affiliate program, would be nuts. I have looked at both programs and they are similiar in one regard they morph, other then that they are different, one is a wp addon the other is a stand alone, one uses several paragraphs to make one post, the other uses the same paragraph only to morph the words you tell it to, one offers you image count, the other dont. Now with said bitching Auto Blogger Pro should be getting screamed at by wpmassinstaller, wpmanagerdx, blog solution etc, but they arnt on here screaming bloody murder of a little competition. I think both of you have a similiar product but different in alot of ways, but to take a program off and start a thread about them is childish esp when no grounds are to be said. Hes russian hes bad news, fuck want me to show you a list of americans, canadians who have ripped me off the last year, show you a list of sponsors who owed me money who closed up shop, if thats the only thing you have against him is that hes competition and that hes russian say that, dont go on a long thread about how he stole your sole idea of morphing text. I would like to finish with I wish both companies luck as i think the competition will make a great product.

i see what you are saying and I agree, but it goes much deeper than anyone on the boards will ever know....btw, he isn't competition whatsoever, I wish people would stop saying that, the only thing our products have in common is they morph feeds

want quality from professional seo experts? feedpushers.com
want a low cost quick do it yourself solution? cyberxxx's thing

aside from our beef with him, he has messed with some pretty large players in the adult biz, and they are pissed

[Jace]

one thing I am finding out with all this is that all these russian companies are working very closely, and from what I can see don't care how a profit is made as long as the cash keeps flowing

[JMM]

Originally Posted by shageman

No one is saying Jace isn't very smart in blogs, one of the top guys i know in blogs

Yeah..well let's not forget that he gets to have sex with one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

Jace, I honestly have no idea how you do it. If she was my wife I think I would be at the computer, 2, 3 hours a month. My wife is also one of the most beautiful women on the planet and thank god for our kids. They require a lot of attention, which gives me a chance to work!

Kudos.

BTW, when you have a minute to chat, can you ICQ me please?

[viroman]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I'm sure they'll miss the three clicks.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by JMM

Yeah..well let's not forget that he gets to have sex with one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

Jace, I honestly have no idea how you do it. If she was my wife I think I would be at the computer, 2, 3 hours a month. My wife is also one of the most beautiful women on the planet and thank god for our kids. They require a lot of attention, which gives me a chance to work!

Kudos.

BTW, when you have a minute to chat, can you ICQ me please?

for sure, hitting you up now

[pornguy]

we also have feeds, Hit me up if you need anything.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by JMM

Yeah..well let's not forget that he gets to have sex with one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

Jace, I honestly have no idea how you do it. If she was my wife I think I would be at the computer, 2, 3 hours a month. My wife is also one of the most beautiful women on the planet and thank god for our kids. They require a lot of attention, which gives me a chance to work!

Kudos.

BTW, when you have a minute to chat, can you ICQ me please?

shit, i added ya then lost ya, hit me up 102893553

[Jace]

Originally Posted by pornguy

we also have feeds, Hit me up if you need anything.

um, they kind of suck

this was the url it gave me - http://area.epiccash.com/eg/rss.php?...=&disp_ num=0

the images are tiny as hell, there are errors all over it, and no text in the feed at all

[JD]

roflcopter.

12dicks you're a fucking prick

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by candyflip

He sold me a wordpress plugin. I installed it myself, just as I have from people I've never even spoken to. I've had questions and they've been answered. The only time I've ever seen him mentioned as a scammer has been by people who perceive him to be competition of some sort.

I could be wrong, but my experience with him has been positive, and as he's had no access to my server I don't feel I'm in a position to be scammed.

Thank you. The same could be said by all my customers. There is no secret I have many of them. As about TerryMiller - just believe me I had no business with those persons and have no idea what he's talking about.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by HighEnergy

'Morphing' has been around for years (1995) in various forms, since the beginning of PHP/FI. By no means has anybody on this board conceived the idea.

But edgeprod has claimed he licensed it. He's a new acacia of RSS

Okey, this is a real story. I am owner of Real-Bucks.com.

It's one time post and i will not replay for any messages later in this thread.

First of all.

edgeprod it is owner of feedpushers.com.

Jace help him promote feedpushers.com

CyberXXX is worker of Real-Bucks.com for RSS/Blog solution last two years. He was create this blog system by our request for our company.

Feedpushers.com it is a competitor of our Feeds rbblog.com which we give to webmasters. Little bit different but close ideas.

Our RSS feeds was world first morphing system which we provide to our customers since 12 of February 2006.

Feedpushers.com start some days ago only. They try to tell everybody that Real-Bucks stolen some ideas, i think it is a back way. We start provide this services to our customers long time before they launch officially or in beta testing.

He was telling to everybody about some patent, which he get at end of 2006 as i know, really it is not intersting for me. We start provide our feeds much before this date. If you want we can start official discussing about your patent and your rights on it in Holland. I ready to send you a contact of my lawyer company in Amsterdam, Holland where is Real-Bucks.com operate now. He already check a case and we have a very big change to win in Europe.

I am not looking for some fighting, we have a different ideas of projects and we provide it only for our customers.

Make a business clear and everybody will be happy. We work years in this business and not even one person can tell that we do something not clear.

Have a nice day.
My icq 122336844 if you have any extra questions.

[SNL]

Originally Posted by Jace

well, the problem is that he steals ideas/products, rebuilds them and sells them, so naturally the people he steals ideas from are going to bitch, if that is what you refer to as "competition" then so be it...to me that is his "victims"

This makes no sense. Ideas are taken everyday and improved on.

['So Fucking Money]

Originally Posted by Jace

um, they kind of suck

this was the url it gave me - http://area.epiccash.com/eg/rss.php?...=&disp_ num=0

the images are tiny as hell, there are errors all over it, and no text in the feed at all

The blog feeds are coming those are just the tgp feeds. Those have the short descriptions. Those are really for the webmasters to know what is new and released.