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Grapesoda 08-23-2007 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 12975962)
is there a fag running? I'd vote for him! :1orglaugh


probably lots of fags they keep it under cover though :)

Libertine 08-23-2007 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 12975943)
look at that rice chick bush got. you can't tell me that wasn't a 'lets get a black woman' type of deal.

Have you ever looked at her resume?

Wolfy 08-23-2007 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 12975956)
...the dems wanna start passing out our money to the crack heads and immigrants ...

That's it for me. I'd like to keep my money, thank you. I worked hard for it.

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12975975)
Have you ever looked at her resume?

Exactly.

RawAlex 08-23-2007 06:35 AM

Obama is proof that US politics is often style over substance. He is a nice enough guy, but someone seriously lacking in skills and experience to get the job done. He hasn't even done middle management yet (run a congressional committee) and yet he thinks he can run the country.

The only reason? The idiots running the US now are fucking it up so bad that a constipated monkey throwing darts at a dartboard could make better decisions. Compared to Bush, the tree in my front lawn looks qualified.

Obama is a good guy, and potentially great VP material. But he isn't up for the big job yet. Get in as the VP, get 8 years experience, and then run by yourself.

jennym 08-23-2007 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 12975945)
the Governor of Louisiana is a woman. If she can do it, so can others.

Any idea who she defeated to become Governor??

Piyush Jindal - son of Indian immigrants, Amar and Raj Jindal. He was a Hindu before being converted to Catholicism as a teenager. He is "brown". How hard do you think it was to beat him? Of course, he has since been voted into congress and is running for Governor again. Not sure what will happen, but don't be so shocked that the "brown Indian Hindu" was beat by a woman in 2003.

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 12975945)
but thankfully she's fucking not running again, she is terrible.

Which is exactly why we are not likely to be voting in another female for a long time.

Grapesoda 08-23-2007 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12975975)
Have you ever looked at her resume?


nope, and how was it she got that resume?

Grapesoda 08-23-2007 06:56 AM

nope, and how was it she got that resume? maybe it's about promoting to your level of incompetents. you've heard about that right. the best way to get rid of somebody is kick them up the ladder.

either way the truth is she's a black woman and she's gonna get jobs on that merit in America of the 20 years.

look how well bush did with his 'LATIN' attorney general. or do think that was all about the LATIN's guy experiences too?

cherrylula 08-23-2007 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jennym (Post 12976046)
Any idea who she defeated to become Governor??

Piyush Jindal - son of Indian immigrants, Amar and Raj Jindal. He was a Hindu before being converted to Catholicism as a teenager. He is "brown". How hard do you think it was to beat him? Of course, he has since been voted into congress and is running for Governor again. Not sure what will happen, but don't be so shocked that the "brown Indian Hindu" was beat by a woman in 2003.

from what I've heard though, seems they like him down here now. His tv commercials creep me out though. He's probably going to replace her, no?

People are still supporting Bill Jefferson with yard signs not far from where I live though, so anything is possible in these parts. :1orglaugh

I am from Los Angeles, so living in Louisiana for me is like being in some awesome, twisted reality show.

jennym 08-23-2007 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 12976066)
from what I've heard though, seems they like him down here now. His tv commercials creep me out though. He's probably going to replace her, no?

I think he is growing on people. At this point I think David Duke would beat her. (LOL...mentioning David Duke reminds me of seeing his black supporters at a rally once)

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 12976066)
People are still supporting Bill Jefferson with yard signs not far from where I live though, so anything is possible in these parts. :1orglaugh

Crazy shit ain't it?? We are famous for our crooked as fuck politicians.

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 12976066)
I am from Los Angeles, so living in Louisiana for me is like being in some awesome, twisted reality show.

Welcome to Redneckland.:thumbsup

Libertine 08-23-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 12976060)
nope, and how was it she got that resume? maybe it's about promoting to your level of incompetents. you've heard about that right. the best way to get rid of somebody is kick them up the ladder.

either way the truth is she's a black woman and she's gonna get jobs on that merit in America of the 20 years.

look how well bush did with his 'LATIN' attorney general. or do think that was all about the LATIN's guy experiences too?

You're letting dislike cloud your judgement :2 cents:

Look up her damn resume, and it should be entirely obvious that she didn't get that resume by being incompetent.

Fletch XXX 08-23-2007 07:12 AM

If in Louisiana vote T Lee Horne. Libertarian or nothing.

http://governor.ws/

BlackCrayon 08-23-2007 07:19 AM

Too many old people out there for a woman or black guy to get in. They might get a lot of press but when it comes time to vote, they will lose most of middle america. If the dems don't pick someone like edwards, they don't stand a chance.

headless ghost 08-23-2007 07:26 AM

WARNING: SERIOUS DISCUSSION . . . . Obama
He is on the Daily Show
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
do you ever read what you write?
the Daily Show??????????
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
the Comedy Channel should give you your own show.
you have talent.
:1orglaugh

DateDoc 08-23-2007 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12974767)
Okay, I am trying to be open minded about the guy . . . but . . .

He is on the Daily Show, the topic is his inexperience, or lack thereof.

Part of his reply, along the lines of, "no one has longer resumes' than Rumsfeld and Cheney, and that did not work out too well."

Fine. The only problem is, they were not President. They were, for all intents and purposes, advisers.

Is he saying that if he wins he will surround himself with advisers with short resumes' and little experience (like him and Bush)? Or will he also surround himself with old school?

I liked the part where they talked about Hilary's experience level as she has been a senator for only a few more years than Obama.

baddog 08-23-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jennym (Post 12975925)
The racist idiots here in the south are sexist as well. So tell me which southern state you think will vote for a woman??


None?

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12975975)
Have you ever looked at her resume?

Obviously not

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12976013)
Obama is proof that US politics is often style over substance. He is a nice enough guy, but someone seriously lacking in skills and experience to get the job done. He hasn't even done middle management yet (run a congressional committee) and yet he thinks he can run the country.

The only reason? The idiots running the US now are fucking it up so bad that a constipated monkey throwing darts at a dartboard could make better decisions. Compared to Bush, the tree in my front lawn looks qualified.

Obama is a good guy, and potentially great VP material. But he isn't up for the big job yet. Get in as the VP, get 8 years experience, and then run by yourself.

I remember a few months ago when I first became aware of him. I thought, "this guy has some potential on down the road. Give him 8 years."

I was amazed that he suddenly became a front-runner.

Sad, because it just means a Republican will win if he gets the nod. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 12976060)
look how well bush did with his 'LATIN' attorney general. or do think that was all about the LATIN's guy experiences too?

I think it had more to do with the fact that they had already worked together in TX (as I recall).

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 12976066)
I am from Los Angeles, so living in Louisiana for me is like being in some awesome, twisted reality show.

I can only imagine.

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Originally Posted by headless ghost (Post 12976157)
WARNING: SERIOUS DISCUSSION . . . . Obama
He is on the Daily Show
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
do you ever read what you write?
the Daily Show??????????
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
the Comedy Channel should give you your own show.
you have talent.
:1orglaugh

You ever see the show? You think just because it is the Daily Show they can't have a serious discussion?

evildick 08-23-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 12976132)
Too many old people out there for a woman or black guy to get in. They might get a lot of press but when it comes time to vote, they will lose most of middle america. If the dems don't pick someone like edwards, they don't stand a chance.

No kidding. He has a double whammy against him. Being black and having a name like "Obama" probably cost him half the country already. Sad but true.

GatorB 08-23-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12975077)
Hillary is from Illionois too numbnuts.

Yes I know that. WTF does that have to do with my points on Obama in teh general election? NONTHING. So why be an ass?

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The democratic candidate does get 90% of the black vote, but how many blacks vote? Very few, they don't have anyone to vote for, they haven't since Kennedy.
Once again do you have a point?

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At the same time if Obama is the nominee black turnout in the south will be enormous, there will be states in play that would never otherwise be.
Whites still outnumber blacks in the south last time I checked. As I said Edwards/Richardson. Richardson can bring in the hispanic vote. Last time I checked there are more hispanics than blacks.

Grapesoda 08-23-2007 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12976098)
You're letting dislike cloud your judgement :2 cents:

Look up her damn resume, and it should be entirely obvious that she didn't get that resume by being incompetent.

more complete lack of interest. just commenting.

latinasojourn 08-23-2007 02:37 PM

like it or not i would put my money on this lineup in the whitehouse:

hillary (president) because folks really want Bill back in the big house
obama (vp)

or long shot edwards as vp

ronaldo 08-23-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by evildick (Post 12977206)
No kidding. He has a double whammy against him. Being black and having a name like "Obama" probably cost him half the country already. Sad but true.

Unfortunately that probably is true, but that also speaks volumes about the intelligence of the US population.

Libertine 08-23-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 12978820)
more complete lack of interest. just commenting.

When you say a person only got her job through being a black woman, it's probably a good idea to know about her qualifications :2 cents:

woodsix 08-23-2007 03:22 PM

independent thinker
 
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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12977930)
Yes I know that. WTF does that have to do with my points on Obama in teh general election? NONTHING. So why be an ass?

Once again do you have a point?

Whites still outnumber blacks in the south last time I checked. As I said Edwards/Richardson. Richardson can bring in the hispanic vote. Last time I checked there are more hispanics than blacks.

What are you then?

First you claim to know how every "black" person in this country is going to vote.

Then you claim to know how every Latino is going vote in this country.

And, presume to know how every "white" is going to vote in this country.

I guess you think you speak for everyone.

Quagmire 08-23-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 12974952)
Can someone please ban this tool? :mad:

From the board or from the country? He claims to be from California, but judging by his English skills he must be an illegal immigrant. :winkwink:

kane 08-23-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12976013)
Obama is proof that US politics is often style over substance. He is a nice enough guy, but someone seriously lacking in skills and experience to get the job done. He hasn't even done middle management yet (run a congressional committee) and yet he thinks he can run the country.

The only reason? The idiots running the US now are fucking it up so bad that a constipated monkey throwing darts at a dartboard could make better decisions. Compared to Bush, the tree in my front lawn looks qualified.

Obama is a good guy, and potentially great VP material. But he isn't up for the big job yet. Get in as the VP, get 8 years experience, and then run by yourself.

Allow me to play Devils advocate. Our current president pretty mush spent most of his young life chasing pussy and getting drunk/high (not that there is anything wrong with that). He then tried to go into business and even with big money backing from his family and their friends he failed. So he ran for governor of Texas and won. Under Bush Texas ranked last in environmental quality and in the bottom five in strength of economy and quality of education. So the only elected position he has ever had he failed at and that didn't stop him from getting elected twice.

A lack of experience can be an asset if played correctly. A Ross Perot once famously said when asked during a debate about his experience, "You are right, I don't have any experience in how to run up a 4 trillion dollar debt."

If he had been in the senate for years and years he could have a voting record (like Kerry) that he had to constantly defend. Without one he will have little to question in his past. Also, he connects with the younger voters. He does this in the same way Bill Clinton did it during his first campaign and those young voters put him in the white house.

I'm not saying he will win or that he would be a good president, but he can win and his lack of experience is not as big of a deal as a lot of people think. Right now it is the only dirt they have on him so they are flinging it.

kane 08-23-2007 03:31 PM

For the record I see I the election playing out like this:

Hilary gets the nod from the democrats and Rudy gets the nod from the republicans and in a very close election Rudy pulls out the win.

baddog 08-23-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn (Post 12978966)
like it or not i would put my money on this lineup in the whitehouse:

hillary (president) because folks really want Bill back in the big house
obama (vp)

or long shot edwards as vp

Bet $100?

Jasper collens 08-23-2007 04:03 PM

Dummy
 
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12974767)
Okay, I am trying to be open minded about the guy . . . but . . .

He is on the Daily Show, the topic is his inexperience, or lack thereof.

Part of his reply, along the lines of, "no one has longer resumes' than Rumsfeld and Cheney, and that did not work out too well."

Fine. The only problem is, they were not President. They were, for all intents and purposes, advisers.

Is he saying that if he wins he will surround himself with advisers with short resumes' and little experience (like him and Bush)? Or will he also surround himself with old school?

How stupid are you? Real stupid would be my guess

tony286 08-23-2007 04:07 PM

I think its too early on both sides to pick someone.There are a bunch hiding in the wings who may run. Perot actually had a chance if he hadnt pulled out and then came back in. The one I would like to see run is Bloomberg, he can throw 500 mil of his own to run so he will owe no one if he went in. That type of president can create real change. Also he is a jew so none of the evangelical bullshit.Ron Paul is interesting but there is no way he is going to be the Republicans choice.

Snake Doctor 08-23-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym (Post 12976046)
Any idea who she defeated to become Governor??

Piyush Jindal - son of Indian immigrants, Amar and Raj Jindal. He was a Hindu before being converted to Catholicism as a teenager. He is "brown". How hard do you think it was to beat him? Of course, he has since been voted into congress and is running for Governor again. Not sure what will happen, but don't be so shocked that the "brown Indian Hindu" was beat by a woman in 2003.



Oh man, you're really fucking reaching on this one.

His name is Bobby Jindal, and his popularity in this state is insane.
To say he lost because of his ethnicity is ridiculous.
He's the congressman for a lilly white affluent district and ran for reelection unopposed.

Blanco won, barely, but it had nothing to do with Jindal's ethnicity.

Snake Doctor 08-23-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12977930)
Yes I know that. WTF does that have to do with my points on Obama in teh general election? NONTHING. So why be an ass?

You said "obama is from illionois which always votes democrat, so he brings nothing to the table"
I was pointing out that Hillary's geography doesn't bring any new states to the table either.


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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12977930)
Once again do you have a point?

Yes but you were too dumb to see it so I'll type really slow this time.
More black people will register to vote and then vote for Obama on election day than would otherwise vote in this election.
Therefore Obama will receive more votes overall by virtue of MATH!


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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12977930)
Whites still outnumber blacks in the south last time I checked. As I said Edwards/Richardson. Richardson can bring in the hispanic vote. Last time I checked there are more hispanics than blacks.

Whites do outnumber the blacks in the south, but most of the white voters in the south are evangelicals who are going to have nobody to vote for if someone like Rudy gets nominated.
In the meantime the black and young turnout in the south will be huge and you'll see some upsets in those states.

baddog 08-23-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasper collens (Post 12979347)
How stupid are you? Real stupid would be my guess

Care to elaborate . . . . idiot?

IllTestYourGirls 08-23-2007 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 12974962)
When I look at him it reminds me how powerful the media truly is in this country.

no joke. The guy is a tool just like everyone else. Want the troops home and your freedoms back there is only one choice. Ron Paul.

baddog 08-23-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12979357)
Also he is a jew so none of the evangelical bullshit.

That is not going to work in his favor. Just ask Gore.


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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12979427)



Yes but you were too dumb to see it so I'll type really slow this time.
More black people will register to vote and then vote for Obama on election day than would otherwise vote in this election.
Therefore Obama will receive more votes overall by virtue of MATH!


Very presumptuous. And racist.

Theo 08-23-2007 05:01 PM

He still has time to change skin color.

nico-t 08-23-2007 05:16 PM

I just hope the dumb ass people who voted for bush TWICE finally see their mistake and dont vote for such a fuckup again. But i doubt it, if they voted twice for that sack of shit they're just retarded. Make the right decision this time for a fucking change and we all benefit from it... yes it will be fucking hard to clean up the mess bush left behind, but i bet with a non-conservative the economy will finally become better... although ive kinda lost hope for the dollar.

Ripshit 08-23-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 12979637)
I just hope the dumb ass people who voted for bush TWICE finally see their mistake and dont vote for such a fuckup again. But i doubt it, if they voted twice for that sack of shit they're just retarded. Make the right decision this time for a fucking change and we all benefit from it... yes it will be fucking hard to clean up the mess bush left behind, but i bet with a non-conservative the economy will finally become better... although ive kinda lost hope for the dollar.

33% of America voted in the last election!
What does that say for Republicans?
Take a good god damn look around at your own country and if you think its United then shit or get off the Pot!

baddog 08-23-2007 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12979648)
33% of America voted in the last election!
What does that say for Republicans?

They vote.

GatorB 08-23-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsix (Post 12979172)
What are you then?

First you claim to know how every "black" person in this country is going to vote.

I know that 92% of blacks voted for Keyy and Gore. So I'm prety sure the Dem nominee will get significantly more votes than the GOP candidate.

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Then you claim to know how every Latino is going vote in this country.
Latino typically vote Dem. Typical republican caniddate can expect 20-25% of hispanic vote. Bush for whatever reason got 35-40%. Last time I checked he's not running again.

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And, presume to know how every "white" is going to vote in this country.

I guess you think you speak for everyone.
America isn't ready for a woman or black president. Sad but true.

D 08-23-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12974767)
Okay, I am trying to be open minded about the guy . . . but . . .

He is on the Daily Show, the topic is his inexperience, or lack thereof.

Part of his reply, along the lines of, "no one has longer resumes' than Rumsfeld and Cheney, and that did not work out too well."

Fine. The only problem is, they were not President. They were, for all intents and purposes, advisers.

Is he saying that if he wins he will surround himself with advisers with short resumes' and little experience (like him and Bush)? Or will he also surround himself with old school?

I just watched the same interview.

I think he was arguing the point of "experience," and how it factors into people's expectations.... I don' t think he was saying anything about his future cabinet at all... experienced or unexperienced.

I think his point was simply that when people talk about experience, they don't really care about whether or not the person has "experience"... but rather want to know how sound the person's judgement may be.

And he used Rumsfield and Cheney to illustrate that even though they had a bunch of experience, their judgement may not have been as sound as the country needed it to be.

He was trying to make the point that even though he doesn't have the experience that doesn't mean he doesn't have the qualification for the job... which seems to be a mainstay point in the press.

As far as who his future cabinet could be... I figure that's another matter entirely.

nico-t 08-23-2007 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12979648)
33% of America voted in the last election!
What does that say for Republicans?
Take a good god damn look around at your own country and if you think its United then shit or get off the Pot!

easy, count to ten, take a deep breath and lay off the big ass font.
I dont even know what you try to say here, its jibberish


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