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RazorSharpe · 08-21-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

Rochard: Yes.. you are absolutely correct... if the states didn't invade iraq and afghanistan, the USA would be destroyed by now by extremists... thanks for the shedding light, smart guy..

and change subject? nah... i still think you're a racist, muslim wife or not.

I don't believe he said she was "muslim" ... she's Middle Eastern. Which would explain how he gets away with spewing his hate and not angering his wife. She's just happy to be out of a country torn, wounded and broken ...

sonofsam · 08-21-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

I don't believe he said she was "muslim" ... she's Middle Eastern. Which would explain how he gets away with spewing his hate and not angering his wife. She's just happy to be out of a country torn, wounded and broken ...

Bro... what do you mean torn, wounded and broken?

I think you missed the point..

the usa is LIBERATING them!

AtlantisCash · 08-21-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kermey

I don't really know you or anything about you, but i will say it took me along time to learn enough to live off this biz. Now I'm full time and paying the bills with porn, one day i will be rich through porn. If you quit, you get no where.

It is a tough biz despite what people say. Most of the big boys here got big when it was easier to make money through porn, these days its tougher, but easily achievable if you work bloody hard and don't give up.

Work Smarter not Harder

Rochard · 08-21-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

I don't believe he said she was "muslim" ... she's Middle Eastern. Which would explain how he gets away with spewing his hate and not angering his wife. She's just happy to be out of a country torn, wounded and broken ...

My wife not Muslim, nor is her close family. However, all of her family members in the Middle East is Muslim. A huge group of her family came to our wedding; In the past 18 years I've attended their weddings and baby showers and what not.

If I'm a racist.... Why in the world am I agreeing to open up my house to them for an extended stay at 3am when their house has been bombed?

sonofsam · 08-21-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

If I'm a racist.... Why in the world am I agreeing to open up my house to them for an extended stay at 3am when their house has been bombed?

because your wife would cut off the sex... maybe you are doing it just to please your wife.. who knows what kinda reasoning goes on in your fucked up brainwashed head..

fact is, you are fucked up... you think everybody in the middle east should have a wall built around them and let them kill eachother...

that is normal to you?

so because you would let your WIFES FAMILY stay at your place for 3 weeks, it means you're normal?

wrong. It doesn't.

uno · 08-21-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your right, not all Muslims are the same. And not all Christians.

The difference is in our world we have a seperation of Church and State. The President of the US doens't decide to go to war because some priest told him to.

And in the mean time, in the name of their God, they are killing each other.

I swear, let's just put up a big wall around the entire middle east and let them have at it already. Let them all kill each other.

Of course, our President doesn't listen to any priest, he hears God.

RazorSharpe · 08-21-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Of course, our President doesn't listen to any priest, he hears God.

LOL - I'll be fucked if you didn't just take the words right out of my mouth. Well, most of the words anyway, I would have left out the "our President" part ...

BradM · 08-21-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The difference is in our world we have a seperation of Church and State. The President of the US doens't decide to go to war because some priest told him to.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...sh-cover_x.htm

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Bush believes he was called by God to lead the nation at this time, says Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a close friend who talks with Bush every day.

Fucking bullshit Rochard. This war is based on religion and oil.

sonofsam · 08-21-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...sh-cover_x.htm

Fucking bullshit Rochard. This war is based on religion and oil.

Don't bother... Rochard = brainwashed to the extreme.

BradM · 08-21-2007, 01:13 PM

I want him to respond to this.

Priest != God?
Which is better or worse? Is there only 1 god? So listening to THAT god to go to war is okay, but a PRIEST... now that's downright dirty raghead bullshit right buddy?

Rochard · 08-21-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

because your wife would cut off the sex... maybe you are doing it just to please your wife.. who knows what kinda reasoning goes on in your fucked up brainwashed head..

fact is, you are fucked up... you think everybody in the middle east should have a wall built around them and let them kill eachother...

that is normal to you?

so because you would let your WIFES FAMILY stay at your place for 3 weeks, it means you're normal?

wrong. It doesn't.

I think the Middle East has been ruled through out the years by a handful of people who are fucked up. They are sitting on the worlds largest oil reserves; They should be rolling in money and not concerned about killing each other.

Kuwait is a good example. They don't pay taxes; the goverment pays them to live there. And most of their work force is from outside the country.

But you still haven't offered up a answer to the problem? Should we just wait it out and hope it will get better? Or should we invade another country or two?

WhiplashDug · 08-21-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

Let's try to be intelligent for a second.....

For starters, CNN never pops up on my tube, and I was not raised on the tele. In the nearly 40 years of my life, college educated, time served in the Armed Forces, and years of reading and listening to the points of others, I have enough life experiences, knowledge and understanding to come to my own conclusions - since "knowledge is power" I don't feel the need to tell you how wrong you are or how well you proved my final point.

Since you are so well read yourself on the Koran, its teachings and the leaders of the Islamic faith, the below information is not intended for you.
...........................

Quotes From The Hadiths:

Sahih Al Bukhari, 216:"I have been ordered to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah & that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah & until he performs the prayers & pays the Zakat."

Sahih Muslim, 217: "Verily Allah has prescribed proficiency in all things. Thus if you kill, KILL WELL, & if you slaughter, SLAUGHTER WELL. Let each one of you sharpen his blade."
...................

Hadith (الحديث transliteration: al-ḥadīth) are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of Muhammad. Hadith collections are regarded as important tools for determining the Sunnah, or Muslim way of life, by all traditional schools of jurisprudence.

...........................

The PROBLEM, again, is not with Middle Eastern People - but with Muslim Extreemists. The Koran itself makes statements than can have multiple meanings. A religion of "PEACE" would interpret those differently than a religion of "Hate". For example,

(Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents. That is NOT a religion of "PEACE".

(Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire."

A peaceful religion would interpret this in such a way that "GOD" will deal with disbelievers.

................... if you want more... we got it! `;]

Rochard · 08-21-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...sh-cover_x.htm

Fucking bullshit Rochard. This war is based on religion and oil.

I am praying for the day Bush is removed from office.

Well, I don't pray. But you get my point.

When I say "seperation of Church and State" I mean..... The president of the US doens't have his own church and doesn't let the church dicate the laws of the country. Which is why abortion is legal.

sonofsam · 08-21-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I think the Middle East has been ruled through out the years by a handful of people who are fucked up. They are sitting on the worlds largest oil reserves; They should be rolling in money and not concerned about killing each other.

Part of me thinks you subconsciously know why you guys are in the middle east...

sonofsam · 08-21-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I think the Middle East has been ruled through out the years by a handful of people who are fucked up. They are sitting on the worlds largest oil reserves; They should be rolling in money and not concerned about killing each other.

Part of me thinks you subconsciously know why you guys are in the middle east...

AtlantisCash · 08-21-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Son of Sam = the biggest idiot on GFY

He called a me racist because I "don't like anyone in the Middle East". Because of the fact that he rarely steps outside, I guess he never thought I was married to someone of Middle Eastern descent.

What a fucking tool.

You don't like middle eastern people and You are married a Middle Eastern Wife? Contradiction Man...

btw. i live in middle east and i m Muslim though, i don't think You are grave enough to talk mine or anybody's face who libves in middle east, but i will give You a chans for talking about us behind ur Keyboard anyway.

gecko · 08-21-2007, 01:23 PM

yikes.. it's like a flame for all in here.

BradM · 08-21-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I am praying for the day Bush is removed from office.

Well, I don't pray. But you get my point.

When I say "seperation of Church and State" I mean..... The president of the US doens't have his own church and doesn't let the church dicate the laws of the country. Which is why abortion is legal.

This is a Christian country, founded on Christian principles. Ask any Christian about abortion and they will give their 2c. However the government has legalized it because they know making it illegal will cause back alley abortions and thousands of innocent un-needed deaths every year and at that point they will get more heat than they need. The government is a business and they know banning abortion will cost more in the end.

If you'd like to see how Christian and backwards this country really is (in most RED areas) type: creationism in school, in Google.

You'll be amazed how much you have in common with these kinds of people, given your opinions on world affairs.

Again this topic is not about the war, it is about Baddog being a creepy homosexual young boy loving obsessed creep.

Rochard · 08-21-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

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The PROBLEM, again, is not with Middle Eastern People - but with Muslim Extreemists. The Koran itself makes statements than can have multiple meanings. A religion of "PEACE" would interpret those differently than a religion of "Hate". For example,

I agree.

This is like saying a handful of Christians blow up a bomb someplace and suddenly everyone hates Christians because they are terrorists. These handful of extremeists preach and teach hate. However, the problem is the goverments of a large number of countries in the Middle East allow this take place. Most of the terrorists who attacked the US on 9/11 came from where? Saudi Arabia.

What I'm saying is..... If they can't put a stop to this, we'll have to. And in order for us to do this... we'd have to invade with our armies. We are already in Iraq, and already in Afghanistan... And pointing fingers at Iran.

Who's next? (Or should I say "Who's next after Iran?")

Rochard · 08-21-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

This is a Christian country, founded on Christian principles. Ask any Christian about abortion and they will give their 2c. However the government has legalized it because they know making it illegal will cause back alley abortions and thousands of innocent un-needed deaths every year and at that point they will get more heat than they need. The government is a business and they know banning abortion will cost more in the end.

If you'd like to see how Christian and backwards this country really is (in most RED areas) type: creationism in school, in Google.

You'll be amazed how much you have in common with these kinds of people, given your opinions on world affairs.

Again this topic is not about the war, it is about Baddog being a creepy homosexual young boy loving obsessed creep.

We are considered a Christian country because it's the largest religion in the country. And yes, we were founded on Chrstian ideas and values. But we have "Freedom of religion" here. This means when I wake up with morning wood and decide to become a Muslim, I can do so. And I won't have to walk the streets in fear of being attacked because of my religion.

RP Fade · 08-21-2007, 01:31 PM

damn how do you guys find the time in the day to argue/debate on a board

donnie · 08-21-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The difference is in our world we have a seperation of Church and State. The President of the US doens't decide to go to war because some priest told him to.

Didn't god tell Bush to attack Iraq?

»Rob Content« · 08-21-2007, 01:31 PM

Sam I asked this of you in another thread and you did not reply so I will ask again.

You mentioned WE do not need to fight..

When you say WE you do understand how Canada was created right? How many people died to create the country you call home? How many natives were killed, and tribes killed off so you could call this home?

Also Sam the last time I checked a lot of Canadians were dieing in the middle east as well. What steps have you taken to stand against this. How many letters have you written to your government? How many rallies have you gone to? What have you done to try and change the stance of your own country? Besides posting on GFY?

Rochard · 08-21-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RP Fade

damn how do you guys find the time in the day to argue/debate on a board

Send traffic to us! Click on my sig!

BradM · 08-21-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We are considered a Christian country because it's the largest religion in the country. And yes, we were founded on Chrstian ideas and values. But we have "Freedom of religion" here. This means when I wake up with morning wood and decide to become a Muslim, I can do so. And I won't have to walk the streets in fear of being attacked because of my religion.

Right. But don't move to Iraq and become a Muslim, or you WILL be attacked and most likely killed by Marines and Regulars for your religion. That's not Iraqs fault, Saddam let Sunis and shiites walk free together. This is cause by the USA and it's Christian Values and ideas.

Does this click yet or are you just saying "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO" in your head while you read this?

»Rob Content« · 08-21-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

This is weird coming from a guy that is against piracy and stealing of content. Since when did stealing affiliate sales become okay? Mansion Productions knowingly armed thieves with the tools they required to steal from affiliates.

Additionally, how come money is money in the case of programmers but not in the case of photographers? It just means that more photographers have morals and a conscience.

You can't be selective of whom you target with bad conduct when you scream that people like AFF, Sexbankroll, SexSearch, et al should be liable for funding piracy. Surely you need to be consistent in these matters.

...

I am consistent in what I stand for. I don't like or support MPA for their past.

The thing I was trying to point out was that no one questioned the people who used MPA2, nats came out and bashed mansion and a lot of people snuck over to nats under the radar without being questioned.

I am sure you're just giving me shit because you work for sex search.. Well at least you worked for orgasm which is sex search so I assume that's your stance on that.

AtlantisCash · 08-21-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

For starters, CNN never pops up on my tube, and I was not raised on the tele. In the nearly 40 years of my life, college educated, time served in the Armed Forces, and years of reading and listening to the points of others, I have enough life experiences, knowledge and understanding to come to my own conclusions - since "knowledge is power" I don't feel the need to tell you how wrong you are or how well you proved my final point.

Since you are so well read yourself on the Koran, its teachings and the leaders of the Islamic faith, the below information is not intended for you.
...........................

Quotes From The Hadiths:

Sahih Al Bukhari, 216:"I have been ordered to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah & that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah & until he performs the prayers & pays the Zakat."

Sahih Muslim, 217: "Verily Allah has prescribed proficiency in all things. Thus if you kill, KILL WELL, & if you slaughter, SLAUGHTER WELL. Let each one of you sharpen his blade."
...................

Hadith (الحديث transliteration: al-ḥadīth) are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of Muhammad. Hadith collections are regarded as important tools for determining the Sunnah, or Muslim way of life, by all traditional schools of jurisprudence.

...........................

The PROBLEM, again, is not with Middle Eastern People - but with Muslim Extreemists. The Koran itself makes statements than can have multiple meanings. A religion of "PEACE" would interpret those differently than a religion of "Hate". For example,

(Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents. That is NOT a religion of "PEACE".

(Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire."

A peaceful religion would interpret this in such a way that "GOD" will deal with disbelievers.

................... if you want more... we got it! `;]

Propaganda Machine works like clockwork.

Thanks.

WhiplashDug · 08-21-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash

Propaganda Machine works like clockwork.

Thanks.

I figured thats all you would have to say. Well done. My Point made.

(Please see last line of post 140 in this thread)

MaDalton · 08-21-2007, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

For starters, CNN never pops up on my tube, and I was not raised on the tele. In the nearly 40 years of my life, college educated, time served in the Armed Forces, and years of reading and listening to the points of others, I have enough life experiences, knowledge and understanding to come to my own conclusions - since "knowledge is power" I don't feel the need to tell you how wrong you are or how well you proved my final point.

Since you are so well read yourself on the Koran, its teachings and the leaders of the Islamic faith, the below information is not intended for you.
...........................

Quotes From The Hadiths:

Sahih Al Bukhari, 216:"I have been ordered to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah & that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah & until he performs the prayers & pays the Zakat."

Sahih Muslim, 217: "Verily Allah has prescribed proficiency in all things. Thus if you kill, KILL WELL, & if you slaughter, SLAUGHTER WELL. Let each one of you sharpen his blade."
...................

Hadith (الحديث transliteration: al-ḥadīth) are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of Muhammad. Hadith collections are regarded as important tools for determining the Sunnah, or Muslim way of life, by all traditional schools of jurisprudence.

...........................

The PROBLEM, again, is not with Middle Eastern People - but with Muslim Extreemists. The Koran itself makes statements than can have multiple meanings. A religion of "PEACE" would interpret those differently than a religion of "Hate". For example,

(Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents. That is NOT a religion of "PEACE".

(Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire."

A peaceful religion would interpret this in such a way that "GOD" will deal with disbelievers.

................... if you want more... we got it! `;]

do you have a little idea about how many people were killed in the name of the peaceful christian god over the last 2000 years?

WhiplashDug · 08-21-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Right. But don't move to Iraq and become a Muslim, or you WILL be attacked and most likely killed by Marines and Regulars for your religion. That's not Iraqs fault, Saddam let Sunis and shiites walk free together. This is cause by the USA and it's Christian Values and ideas.

Does this click yet or are you just saying "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO" in your head while you read this?

LOL! Holy CRAP! I had NO IDEA that US MARINES (Semper Fi!) were running around Iraq killing Muslims because they are Muslims. WOW! Thats astounding! Can you prove this accusation?

»Rob Content« · 08-21-2007, 01:45 PM

I'd like anyone who is trying to debate this issue to really go to the middle east and see what it was like. How insane it really was, and still is before they speak out about is the war right or not.

Speak to people first hand about it and let them tell you.

Where I live just under a year ago a family of women moved in who were refugees from Afghanistan. I've helped them out with finding work, and shopping, and parts of the way of life here.

While speaking with them, the war does come up often, and they are soo very happy as to what is going on. Where they lived it was filled with Al Qaeda terrorists. They could not leave their house or anything else. The women were not allowed to go to school, work, or anything. They were forced into what to wear, who to sleep with, and if not they were beaten and raped. They stayed in their house for well over a year, 2 of their brothers were murdered by Al Qaeda terrorists for not joining them and helping. 3 of their young family members 13, 12, and 15 were kidnapped and raped repeated over and over again by the Al Qaeda terrorists. They still have no idea what happened to them.

Their father was murdered in front of their house trying to defend the Al Qaeda for taking over their house. They had to sneak out at night to get food, and lost a good part of their family, and most of them were raped over and over again. All of their life long possessions stolen, other parts of their family murdered.

After the war began they were able to leave that country and the Al Qaeda is no longer doing this in the part of the country.

In Afghanistan women can go to school again, work, they are not forced into what to wear, when to fuck, who to fuck or be beaten and raped for not listening. This country is now after many years starting to get some form of normalcy. IF no war had happened the people who live behind me who I share some good times with would either be dead or still be getting raped daily.

So you tell me what's right and what's wrong.

WhiplashDug · 08-21-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

do you have a little idea about how many people were killed in the name of the peaceful christian god over the last 2000 years?

Would you like to go over the numbers? Hit me with them, I am ready!

GoLakers · 08-21-2007, 01:51 PM

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Who's next? (Or should I say "Who's next after Iran?")

Syria

Well, this is not just to defend Rochard
I was not born American. I worked with Rochard for couple of years. We are still friends now eventhough we are anot working together anymore. I have never felt any racism towards me or any of my family. We don't cut sex off him so he has to be nice to us. He has been always very helpful and the one I reach in difficult times. We may disagree on some political issues (I still remember our heated debates before the 04 elections) but overall I can't call him racist at all even think about it.

"Small minds discuss persons. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas." For any one who's calling Rochard a racist: If you disagree with Rochard's views, you can discuss them without calling him names.

Thanks

BradM · 08-21-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLakers

Well, this is not just to defend Rochard
I was not born American. I worked with Rochard for couple of years. We are still friends now eventhough we are anot working together anymore. I have never felt any racism towards me or any of my family. We don't cut sex off him so he has to be nice to us. He has been always very helpful and the one I reach in difficult times. We may disagree on some political issues (I still remember our heated debates before the 04 elections) but overall I can't call him racist at all even think about it.

"Small minds discuss persons. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas." For any one who's calling Rochard a racist: If you disagree with Rochard's views, you can discuss them without calling him names.

Thanks

He's a good guy, I'd have his back and I would hope he would have mine if anything went down. I'd happily open my door to him if he needed shelter or food.

I disagree with him on several political stances, that has nothing to do with his overall character.

RevSand · 08-21-2007, 01:54 PM

Damn this thread took a turn from the start... WOW!

Max Cheese · 08-21-2007, 01:54 PM

this thread is fucking silly

MaDalton · 08-21-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

Would you like to go over the numbers? Hit me with them, I am ready!

nah, i got work to do. but just think of the crusades, the burning of "witches" in the name of god, protestants vs. catholics in nothern ireland, the killing of natives in your own country and mexico by the spanish conquerors and so on and so on...

QuaWee · 08-21-2007, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your right, not all Muslims are the same. And not all Christians.

The difference is in our world we have a seperation of Church and State. The President of the US doens't decide to go to war because some priest told him to.

And in the mean time, in the name of their God, they are killing each other.

I swear, let's just put up a big wall around the entire middle east and let them have at it already. Let them all kill each other.

oh really? Have you checked the back of your $1 bills or heard the pledge of allegiance? Should I go on?

WhiplashDug · 08-21-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

nah, i got work to do. but just think of the crusades, the burning of "witches" in the name of god, protestants vs. catholics in nothern ireland, the killing of natives in your own country and mexico by the spanish conquerors and so on and so on...

Your right.. the crusades.. I forgot! Didn't they start after the Moor's invasion of Europe as Christendom feared another Muslim expansion into Europe? Didn't the Moor's kill or convert everyone in their path through Africa and up into Europe?

If you want to do a CUM total for all sides, I am more than willing to work on it with you. I'm not 100% solid on the Moor's expansion and the numbers of people they murdered, but I am willing to do the work to research it if you are?

WhiplashDug · 08-21-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

oh really? Have you checked the back of your $1 bills or heard the pledge of allegiance? Should I go on?

Uh, yeah - thats becuase this COUNTRY was founded by Christians - who also saw fit to put HIGH UP on their list - "The Freedom Of Religion" - which NO WHERE suggests "the freedomo FROM religion".

They gave right for people to practice WHATEVER faith they so choose - but NEVER intended FAITH to be ABSENT from our society!

QuaWee · 08-21-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

For starters, CNN never pops up on my tube, and I was not raised on the tele. In the nearly 40 years of my life, college educated, time served in the Armed Forces, and years of reading and listening to the points of others, I have enough life experiences, knowledge and understanding to come to my own conclusions - since "knowledge is power" I don't feel the need to tell you how wrong you are or how well you proved my final point.

Since you are so well read yourself on the Koran, its teachings and the leaders of the Islamic faith, the below information is not intended for you.
...........................

Quotes From The Hadiths:

Sahih Al Bukhari, 216:"I have been ordered to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah & that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah & until he performs the prayers & pays the Zakat."

Sahih Muslim, 217: "Verily Allah has prescribed proficiency in all things. Thus if you kill, KILL WELL, & if you slaughter, SLAUGHTER WELL. Let each one of you sharpen his blade."
...................

Hadith (الحديث transliteration: al-ḥadīth) are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of Muhammad. Hadith collections are regarded as important tools for determining the Sunnah, or Muslim way of life, by all traditional schools of jurisprudence.

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The PROBLEM, again, is not with Middle Eastern People - but with Muslim Extreemists. The Koran itself makes statements than can have multiple meanings. A religion of "PEACE" would interpret those differently than a religion of "Hate". For example,

(Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents. That is NOT a religion of "PEACE".

(Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire."

A peaceful religion would interpret this in such a way that "GOD" will deal with disbelievers.

................... if you want more... we got it! `;]

I guess I was wrong about that CNN and about you using several sources... LOL.

Just to let you know. I was Muslim for about 13 yrs. I'm African American if that matters to you. Even went to Muslim school for a couple of years. So, I know a bit about the Quran. Not once, was I told to hate others.

If I were to hate everyone of every race that pissed me off or took the media as 100% truthfull, I would be severly fucked up. Two days, ago an older asian woman hit my car. Maybe. I should hate all old asian women. Better, yet let me hate all asians. Hell, I got stopped at Target the other week by a hispanic security guard who thought I stole something. Maybe I should hate all hispanics. Sounds good? I use to get teased for being Muslim by white catholic kids. Maybe, I should hate them all because I know they all act and think the same... Ignorance bares no race, sex or religion. But, you wouldn't know that. Seeing, as CNN didn't tell you so...

I could go on and on. But, it would be a waste of time. How about you turn off Bill O' Reily, close your Wikipedia page, go outside and get some fresh air.

Moral of this thread? Being hateful takes up too much energy and is too time consuming. You could be doing something useful, but you rather post hateful propaganda. Your acting as hateful as the people you are hating. Congrats to the winners.

"Ignorance is bliss" - hmm where did I get that from...

Congrats to the winners.

AtlantisCash · 08-21-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content

I'd like anyone who is trying to debate this issue to really go to the middle east and see what it was like. How insane it really was, and still is before they speak out about is the war right or not.

Speak to people first hand about it and let them tell you.

Where I live just under a year ago a family of women moved in who were refugees from Afghanistan. I've helped them out with finding work, and shopping, and parts of the way of life here.

While speaking with them, the war does come up often, and they are soo very happy as to what is going on. Where they lived it was filled with Al Qaeda terrorists. They could not leave their house or anything else. The women were not allowed to go to school, work, or anything. They were forced into what to wear, who to sleep with, and if not they were beaten and raped. They stayed in their house for well over a year, 2 of their brothers were murdered by Al Qaeda terrorists for not joining them and helping. 3 of their young family members 13, 12, and 15 were kidnapped and raped repeated over and over again by the Al Qaeda terrorists. They still have no idea what happened to them.

Their father was murdered in front of their house trying to defend the Al Qaeda for taking over their house. They had to sneak out at night to get food, and lost a good part of their family, and most of them were raped over and over again. All of their life long possessions stolen, other parts of their family murdered.

After the war began they were able to leave that country and the Al Qaeda is no longer doing this in the part of the country.

In Afghanistan women can go to school again, work, they are not forced into what to wear, when to fuck, who to fuck or be beaten and raped for not listening. This country is now after many years starting to get some form of normalcy. IF no war had happened the people who live behind me who I share some good times with would either be dead or still be getting raped daily.

So you tell me what's right and what's wrong.

done by alQita and (thats bad no matter done by whom) still bad is bad, but let's listen some smillar storys from Iraqi ladys about US soldiers.

Women can work? they can go to school without matter? hahahahahaha, what a dumbness, i think You have never been at middle east, there are unrighted laws here and somebody will never care what Fast food Eaters are talking about.

»Rob Content« · 08-21-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash

done by alQita and (thats bad no matter done by whom) still bad is bad, but let's listen some smillar storys from Iraqi ladys about US soldiers.

Women can work? they can go to school without matter? hahahahahaha, what a dumbness, i think You have never been at middle east, there are unrighted laws here and somebody will never care what Fast food Eaters are talking about.

So what you are saying is the Iraq and Afghanistan were better off and more livable pre war?

WhiplashDug · 08-21-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

I guess I was wrong about that CNN and about you using several sources... LOL.

Just to let you know. I was Muslim for about 13 yrs. I'm African American if that matters to you. Even went to Muslim school for a couple of years. So, I know a bit about the Quran. Not once, was I told to hate others.

If I were to hate everyone of every race that pissed me off or took the media as 100% truthfull, I would be severly fucked up. Two days, ago an older asian woman hit my car. Maybe. I should hate all old asian women. Better, yet let me hate all asians. Hell, I got stopped at Target the other week by a hispanic security guard who thought I stole something. Maybe I should hate all hispanics. Sounds good? I use to get teased for being Muslim by white catholic kids. Maybe, I should hate them all because I know they all act and think the same... Ignorance bares no race, sex or religion. But, you wouldn't know that. Seeing, as CNN didn't tell you so...

I could go on and on. But, it would be a waste of time. How about you turn off Bill O' Reily, close your Wikipedia page, go outside and get some fresh air.

Moral of this thread? Being hateful takes up too much energy and is too time consuming. You could be doing something useful, but you rather post hateful propaganda. Your acting as hateful as the people you are hating. Congrats to the winners.

"Ignorance is bliss" - hmm where did I get that from...

Congrats to the winners.

It's interesting to note how at every turn you have to suggest that all my opinions are formed from some TV influence, and not of my own mind. Either you see yourself as an elitist intectually, or you are drawing from your own experiences.

I don't seem to recall stating that I hate anyone. I do seem to recall classifying that "the extreemists" were my concern. Your race or current religion, are not qualifiers for me on any level.

What does cause me to think, is your past religion. Not that all Muslims are terrorists, but that nearly ALL terrorists are Muslims. Because of that mere fact, it would be foolish for any level headed human to take at face value what others in that religion profess. Especially, since it is an extreme minority of that faith who speak out against those who commit terror acts in the NAME of Islam.

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Jimmy Rock · 08-21-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

owned x 10

very true

RazorSharpe · 08-21-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content

I am consistent in what I stand for. I don't like or support MPA for their past.

The thing I was trying to point out was that no one questioned the people who used MPA2, nats came out and bashed mansion and a lot of people snuck over to nats under the radar without being questioned.

I am sure you're just giving me shit because you work for sex search.. Well at least you worked for orgasm which is sex search so I assume that's your stance on that.

I've never worked for sexsearch nor have i ever heard of orgasm. Most importantly, I'm not giving you shit. I just think that it's wrong to be so totally selective of what YOU feel constitutes theft and when aiding and abetting is wrong.

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VeriSexy · 08-21-2007, 02:51 PM

damn I got some catching up to do

MaDalton · 08-21-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

Your right.. the crusades.. I forgot! Didn't they start after the Moor's invasion of Europe as Christendom feared another Muslim expansion into Europe? Didn't the Moor's kill or convert everyone in their path through Africa and up into Europe?

wrong - go back reading, look out for the year 1096

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If you want to do a CUM total for all sides, I am more than willing to work on it with you. I'm not 100% solid on the Moor's expansion and the numbers of people they murdered, but I am willing to do the work to research it if you are?

i have no time for research - but just with 5 minutes of looking i already found numbers of up to 22 million people that died in the 300 years the crusades took. sounds a bit much to me, who knows. i wasn't there

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»Rob Content« Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,348	I'd like anyone who is trying to debate this issue to really go to the middle east and see what it was like. How insane it really was, and still is before they speak out about is the war right or not. Speak to people first hand about it and let them tell you. Where I live just under a year ago a family of women moved in who were refugees from Afghanistan. I've helped them out with finding work, and shopping, and parts of the way of life here. While speaking with them, the war does come up often, and they are soo very happy as to what is going on. Where they lived it was filled with Al Qaeda terrorists. They could not leave their house or anything else. The women were not allowed to go to school, work, or anything. They were forced into what to wear, who to sleep with, and if not they were beaten and raped. They stayed in their house for well over a year, 2 of their brothers were murdered by Al Qaeda terrorists for not joining them and helping. 3 of their young family members 13, 12, and 15 were kidnapped and raped repeated over and over again by the Al Qaeda terrorists. They still have no idea what happened to them. Their father was murdered in front of their house trying to defend the Al Qaeda for taking over their house. They had to sneak out at night to get food, and lost a good part of their family, and most of them were raped over and over again. All of their life long possessions stolen, other parts of their family murdered. After the war began they were able to leave that country and the Al Qaeda is no longer doing this in the part of the country. In Afghanistan women can go to school again, work, they are not forced into what to wear, when to fuck, who to fuck or be beaten and raped for not listening. This country is now after many years starting to get some form of normalcy. IF no war had happened the people who live behind me who I share some good times with would either be dead or still be getting raped daily. So you tell me what's right and what's wrong. __________________ 80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds 3 & 5mins FLVs \| RSS & Tube Feeds \| Matching Thumbs \| FLV Browser & Exporter \| No Prechecked Xsales >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557 ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom

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