Some of you guys are slow. No one is against torrents. - GoFuckYourself.com

seeric · 08-20-2007, 04:26 PM

get it straight.

torrent technology is amazing. web 2.0 is amazing.

here is an example of a legal tube site.

www.snizzshare.com

people are pissed off that such an amazing technology like torrent and tube is used as a vehicle for distributing content not licensed or lawfully used.

so get off the "you people are fighting technology and against torrents and tube blah blah blah"

BradM · 08-20-2007, 04:27 PM

No one but the pond scum idiots are saying that.

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 04:27 PM

No you get it.. A lot of others on this board dont.

munki · 08-20-2007, 04:31 PM

as stated above... 2.0 and .torrent tech are good things... P2P data delivery makes great sense for a lot of applications. Software updates, DRM content delivery, promotional tools... unforunately much like the wild west days of mp3s before itunes and the like... theft is running rampant using this amazing technology...

Will be interesting to see the technology and use of it develop more over the next few years.

candyflip · 08-20-2007, 04:31 PM

There are a few here that don't get it and DO think that torrent technology is what is evil. Again, they're a similar kind of idiot to the one Brad mentioned.

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 04:35 PM

www.vuze.com is amazing. Ive gotten sustained 2500kbps average download speeds with them. They use clusters of servers pushing the torrents, plus the users seeding also. If adult programs would join together and find a way to use this to their advantage bandwidth costs would decrease a lot. Maybe there is a solution there for secured content delivery.... hmm

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:36 PM

How can a torrent go legit, it's based on lots people having the same thing to download. Seeders and Leechers, that cant work with legal content. With legal content you download it from the source you bought it from, not 17 other people. If Im wrong please school me.

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

How can a torrent go legit, it's based on lots people having the same thing to download. Seeders and Leechers, that cant work with legal content. With legal content you download it from the source you bought it from, not 17 other people. If Im wrong please school me.

You are utterly wrong...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2007, 04:38 PM

Now everyone understands what I been saying...
Guess it just took someone with balls to come forward.

I still do not like the idea of even more free porn that is easier to get though.
Just makes sales a little more rough, but the good guys will keep producing fresh stuff and I think thats the key to any succesful site.

The days of running archive sites is comming to a close.
I am believer that surfers want new and fresh, and exlcusive.

It seems to be the life bread of the currently strong subscription sites.

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You are utterly wrong...

Then school me idiot like I stated.

candyflip · 08-20-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

How can a torrent go legit, it's based on lots people having the same thing to download. Seeders and Leechers, that cant work with legal content. With legal content you download it from the source you bought it from, not 17 other people. If Im wrong please school me.

Here's the exact one I was thinking of when I posted above.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-20-2007, 04:39 PM

It cracked me up how everytime anyone stated in the XPays thread that they support Web 2.0, but not content theft, some apologist for content theft would claim they were against Web 2.0, against free speech, and against apple pie (well, not apple pie, I made that up - besides I prefer hot cherry pie).

ADG

munki · 08-20-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

www.vuze.com is amazing. Ive gotten sustained 2500kbps average download speeds with them. They use clusters of servers pushing the torrents, plus the users seeding also. If adult programs would join together and find a way to use this to their advantage bandwidth costs would decrease a lot. Maybe there is a solution there for secured content delivery.... hmm

You may have something there... not to mention the gain in positioning... Servers all over the world handling content delivery on a giant P2P producer network... I love the idea if everything could be secured properly. DRM is one way to go, but that seems to be a negative to a lot of subscribers...

I'd be very interested in helping to develop something...

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Then school me idiot like I stated.

Hey Tony read my above post. You anti torrent guys get more snide everyday. I only said you were wrong, and you call me an idiot.

Havent we been down this road before?

JamesK2 · 08-20-2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

How can a torrent go legit, it's based on lots people having the same thing to download. Seeders and Leechers, that cant work with legal content. With legal content you download it from the source you bought it from, not 17 other people. If Im wrong please school me.

Nah lets say you got a paysite. You can setup a tracker for each download to only let people leech the torrent when they're logged in to your member area. Basically this is the same way private torrent sites work.

So when another site would link to this tracker/torrent the people wouldn't be able to download it.

BradM · 08-20-2007, 04:43 PM

tony404 has proven to be an idiot time and time again. His excessive fat has clogged the 4 remaining braincells he has. Anyone who reads his drivel DESERVES to get frustrated arguing with him.

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Hey Tony read my above post. You anti torrent guys get more snide everyday. I only said you were wrong, and you call me an idiot.

Havent we been down this road before?

I said if I was wrong school me and instead of saying Tony let me tell you have it works.You said your utterly wrong. I dont think a technology can be evil but its being used to fuck me in the ass its annoying.Anti torrent guys?No Im anti giving my shit away from free to make money guy. Sticky if you made a decent dollar in this business your tune would be very different.

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

tony404 has proven to be an idiot time and time again. His excessive fat has clogged the 4 remaining braincells he has. Anyone who reads his drivel DESERVES to get frustrated arguing with him.

If attacking me makes you feel special Brad have a ball.

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki

You may have something there... not to mention the gain in positioning... Servers all over the world handling content delivery on a giant P2P producer network... I love the idea if everything could be secured properly. DRM is one way to go, but that seems to be a negative to a lot of subscribers...

I'd be very interested in helping to develop something...

Munki look at Silverlight

http://silverlight.net/

Quote:

Microsoft® Silverlight? is a cross-browser, cross-platform plug-in for delivering the next generation of .NET based media experiences and rich interactive applications for the Web. Silverlight offers a flexible programming model that supports AJAX, VB, C#, Python, and Ruby, and integrates with existing Web applications. Silverlight supports fast, cost-effective delivery of high-quality video to all major browsers running on the Mac OS or Windows.

Install it and watch the fantastic 4 trailer here

http://silverlight.net/fox/

Goto www.myspace.com/fox another proprietary system seems flash based, but havent seen anyone getting direct downloads off it. Maybe via a screen grab recorder but thats probably it.

Adult used to innovate. Seems it follows now..

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK

Nah lets say you got a paysite. You can setup a tracker for each download to only let people leech the torrent when they're logged in to your member area. Basically this is the same way private torrent sites work.

So when another site would link to this tracker/torrent the people wouldn't be able to download it.

Thank you I didnt know that. See that was simple.

Xplicit · 08-20-2007, 04:49 PM

Stopping torrents in general isn't the point.

Stopping content theft is also impossable and anyone with a brain knows that.

The ONLY point I have is that this industry shouldnt SPONSOR sites stealing from others in the SAME DAMN INDUSTRY. We have the ability to work together and make porn torrents a lot less profitable then they are now.

Thats a realistic goal.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2007, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

tony404 has proven to be an idiot time and time again. His excessive fat has clogged the 4 remaining braincells he has. Anyone who reads his drivel DESERVES to get frustrated arguing with him.

Tony404 is a great guy, ya should check yourself some there.

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Tony404 is a great guy, ya should check yourself some there.

Thanks man, Ive never had any words with Brad. So maybe he is having a bad day.

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I said if I was wrong school me and instead of saying Tony let me tell you have it works.You said your utterly wrong. I dont think a technology can be evil but its being used to fuck me in the ass its annoying.Anti torrent guys?No Im anti giving my shit away from free to make money guy. Sticky if you made a decent dollar in this business your tune would be very different.

Hmm always with me not making a decent buck.. interesting. Ask me again in 1 year about it. All you Sticky haters can fuck straight the hell off. I work my ass off all day and till late at night. Ive come a long fuckin way. So Fuck off!

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Hmm always with me not making a decent buck.. interesting. Ask me again in 1 year about it. All you Sticky haters can fuck straight the hell off. I work my ass off all day and till late at night. Ive come a long fuckin way. So Fuck off!

I don't hate you,your combative and then react when someone pushes back.

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I don't hate you,your combative and then react when someone pushes back.

If you look up in the thread you were the first one to take it to the "mat" with the idiot comment.

KimJI · 08-20-2007, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

How can a torrent go legit, it's based on lots people having the same thing to download. Seeders and Leechers, that cant work with legal content. With legal content you download it from the source you bought it from, not 17 other people. If Im wrong please school me.

yes it can. A lot of content(I'm not talking porn videos) isn't licensed.
I'm working with Kristoffer on a 4wd movie site, where the content is distributed through Torrent clients on 3 servers and the user-group.

As long as the publishers know how to control the releases, its no problem

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

If you look up in the thread you were the first one to take it to the "mat" with the idiot comment.

I said if im wrong school me. What I meant was I dont know everything and if im mistaken please correct me.
Your response was not Tony thats not how its work let me tell you. You said your utterly wrong thats it. Now this week we have sent out emails two to rapidshare sites and one a bt, have gotten no response yet. This is my sweat and blood and it hurts the bottom line. Your being flippant about these things adds fuel to the fire.

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I said if im wrong school me. What I meant was I dont know everything and if im mistaken please correct me.
Your response was not Tony thats not how its work let me tell you. You said your utterly wrong thats it. Now this week we have sent out emails two to rapidshare sites and one a bt, have gotten no response yet. This is my sweat and blood and it hurts the bottom line. Your being flippant about these things adds fuel to the fire.

I posted an example right above your idiot post. So look up.

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I posted an example right above your idiot post. So look up.

No its ok James K was nice enough to explain it,without having to say Im utterly wrong.

Theo · 08-20-2007, 05:16 PM

freeware, shareware, demos etc can be legally distributed through bittorents

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 05:30 PM

I thought about it, I'm sorry I called you a idiot Sticky.Just because I was frustrated with you doesn't give me license to lash out. I would of rather had info then your utterly wrong.

TheDoc · 08-20-2007, 05:41 PM

Does anyone know of a legit torrent site? I have been looking for one.

TheDoc · 08-20-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Adult used to innovate. Seems it follows now..

Many, shit loads.. of paysites have been changing over to flash based movies. The size/load of this project, changing all encodes at once, ect is a major undertaking. And the technology for protecting flash movies is very new.

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Many, shit loads.. of paysites have been changing over to flash based movies. The size/load of this project, changing all encodes at once, ect is a major undertaking. And the technology for protecting flash movies is very new.

How do porn buyers feel about that? The reason I ask, is when we first started I didnt want anyone downloading the pics on the site.This was 2000, so we disabled the right click button and they went crazy not being able to download the pics.So we changed it for fear of losing all our members. Has this attitude changed,would love to hear about experiences.

TheDoc · 08-20-2007, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

How do porn buyers feel about that? The reason I ask, is when we first started I didnt want anyone downloading the pics on the site.This was 2000, so we disabled the right click button and they went crazy not being able to download the pics.So we changed it for fear of losing all our members. Has this attitude changed,would love to hear about experiences.

No idea, I haven't ever offered flash pictures before or non-downloadable pictures before. Flash movies will never replace downloadable movies for people on dialup. But they are becoming a standard across the Internet, which we need to help introduce them smoothly into our member sections.

RawAlex · 08-20-2007, 06:03 PM

I guess for me there are only two issues I would have with snizzshare type sites is the length of the movies:

http://www.snizzshare.com/view_video...ype=&category=

4 minutes and 30 seconds seems long. If the sponsors are releasing it like this they are idiots, IMHO. There can't be that much more interesting to see at the website.

The other part would be the advertising. Large numbers of non-related sponsors on the page, dating sites etc. Thankfully the videos are clickable to the site in question, but I have to say that extra sponsors on a page concern me.

I do like the idea of flash movies. I just don't think much of 1 minute plus clips or non-related sponsors. But that is just me. Generally XXXJay's stuff is hot

Theo · 08-20-2007, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Does anyone know of a legit torrent site? I have been looking for one.

www.bittorrent.com

IllTestYourGirls · 08-20-2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

get it straight.

torrent technology is amazing. web 2.0 is amazing.

here is an example of a legal tube site.

www.snizzshare.com

people are pissed off that such an amazing technology like torrent and tube is used as a vehicle for distributing content not licensed or lawfully used.

so get off the "you people are fighting technology and against torrents and tube blah blah blah"

shitty traffic for a torrent

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-20-2007, 06:17 PM

I predict that Adobe's next generation of Flash, coupled with their new Adobe Media Player product should make a big splash and change the way many of us operate...here is an excerpt about it:

Quote:

For content publishers, Adobe Media Player enables better ways to deliver, monetize, brand, track and protect video content. It provides an array of video delivery options for high-quality online and offline playback, including on-demand streaming, live streaming, progressive download, and protected download-and-play. The Adobe Media Player enables a wider selection of monetization and branding options including viewer-centric dynamic advertising and the ability to customize the look and feel of the player on the fly to match the brand or theme of the currently playing content.

Advanced Analytics and Content Protection
The technology provides content publishers a standardized toolbox to deploy a variety of innovative new advertising formats, and to compile permission-based analytics data, both online and offline, to better understand their audiences. Building on Adobe's rich history of document protection technology, Adobe Media Player plans to offer content publishers a range of protection options, including streaming encryption, content integrity protection and identity-based protection.

Text of complete article.

ADG

stickyfingerz · 08-20-2007, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I thought about it, I'm sorry I called you a idiot Sticky.Just because I was frustrated with you doesn't give me license to lash out. I would of rather had info then your utterly wrong.

Its cool man. Sorry I snapped also.

donkevlar · 08-20-2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Its cool man. Sorry I snapped also.

Aww you guys are so precious

Fun Fact: 85% of GFYers use torrents for movies, tv and music?

seeric · 08-20-2007, 07:03 PM

don't forget about the piracy meeting content producers.

sworld · 08-20-2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

Stopping torrents in general isn't the point.

Stopping content theft is also impossable and anyone with a brain knows that.

The ONLY point I have is that this industry shouldnt SPONSOR sites stealing from others in the SAME DAMN INDUSTRY. We have the ability to work together and make porn torrents a lot less profitable then they are now.

Thats a realistic goal.

You said it...That's the main reason we'll be at the roundtable meeting......

seeric · 08-20-2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sworld

You said it...That's the main reason we'll be at the roundtable meeting......

hi buddy.

TheDoc · 08-20-2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

www.bittorrent.com

I think bittorrent.com is still working with the mpaa because of it's many filter issues, and from what I gather it still has a lot possible copyrighted material. It's probably the best open example of a torrent network working towards becoming legit though.

08-20-2007, 04:26 PM	#1
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	Some of you guys are slow. No one is against torrents. get it straight. torrent technology is amazing. web 2.0 is amazing. here is an example of a legal tube site. www.snizzshare.com people are pissed off that such an amazing technology like torrent and tube is used as a vehicle for distributing content not licensed or lawfully used. so get off the "you people are fighting technology and against torrents and tube blah blah blah"

08-20-2007, 04:31 PM	#4
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	as stated above... 2.0 and .torrent tech are good things... P2P data delivery makes great sense for a lot of applications. Software updates, DRM content delivery, promotional tools... unforunately much like the wild west days of mp3s before itunes and the like... theft is running rampant using this amazing technology... Will be interesting to see the technology and use of it develop more over the next few years. __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

08-20-2007, 04:31 PM	#5
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	There are a few here that don't get it and DO think that torrent technology is what is evil. Again, they're a similar kind of idiot to the one Brad mentioned. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

08-20-2007, 04:38 PM	#9
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08-20-2007, 04:39 PM	#12
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	It cracked me up how everytime anyone stated in the XPays thread that they support Web 2.0, but not content theft, some apologist for content theft would claim they were against Web 2.0, against free speech, and against apple pie (well, not apple pie, I made that up - besides I prefer hot cherry pie). ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

08-20-2007, 04:27 PM	#2
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	No one but the pond scum idiots are saying that.

08-20-2007, 04:27 PM	#3
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	No you get it.. A lot of others on this board dont.

08-20-2007, 04:35 PM	#6
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	www.vuze.com is amazing. Ive gotten sustained 2500kbps average download speeds with them. They use clusters of servers pushing the torrents, plus the users seeding also. If adult programs would join together and find a way to use this to their advantage bandwidth costs would decrease a lot. Maybe there is a solution there for secured content delivery.... hmm

08-20-2007, 04:36 PM	#7
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	How can a torrent go legit, it's based on lots people having the same thing to download. Seeders and Leechers, that cant work with legal content. With legal content you download it from the source you bought it from, not 17 other people. If Im wrong please school me.

08-20-2007, 04:43 PM	#16
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	tony404 has proven to be an idiot time and time again. His excessive fat has clogged the 4 remaining braincells he has. Anyone who reads his drivel DESERVES to get frustrated arguing with him.

08-20-2007, 04:49 PM	#21
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Stopping torrents in general isn't the point. Stopping content theft is also impossable and anyone with a brain knows that. The ONLY point I have is that this industry shouldnt SPONSOR sites stealing from others in the SAME DAMN INDUSTRY. We have the ability to work together and make porn torrents a lot less profitable then they are now. Thats a realistic goal.

08-20-2007, 05:16 PM	#31
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	freeware, shareware, demos etc can be legally distributed through bittorents

08-20-2007, 05:30 PM	#32
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I thought about it, I'm sorry I called you a idiot Sticky.Just because I was frustrated with you doesn't give me license to lash out. I would of rather had info then your utterly wrong.

08-20-2007, 05:41 PM	#33
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Does anyone know of a legit torrent site? I have been looking for one. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

08-20-2007, 06:03 PM	#37
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	I guess for me there are only two issues I would have with snizzshare type sites is the length of the movies: http://www.snizzshare.com/view_video...ype=&category= 4 minutes and 30 seconds seems long. If the sponsors are releasing it like this they are idiots, IMHO. There can't be that much more interesting to see at the website. The other part would be the advertising. Large numbers of non-related sponsors on the page, dating sites etc. Thankfully the videos are clickable to the site in question, but I have to say that extra sponsors on a page concern me. I do like the idea of flash movies. I just don't think much of 1 minute plus clips or non-related sponsors. But that is just me. Generally XXXJay's stuff is hot

08-20-2007, 07:03 PM	#43
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	don't forget about the piracy meeting content producers.