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Pornwolf 08-20-2007 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12955557)
I have a very advanced link script that I use and had custom built

I add my new sites into that script and they are usually crawled within a day and at least 20-30 pages in the engines within a week

I always blew off people that said "the best scripts are custom", but I knew I had a theory that would work and finally scraped up the bones to get it done, and sure enough, my theory was dead on

trial and error is the best way though, and with search engines you can generally see within 2-3 days whether a theory is going to pay off or not

Hmm, ok, I think the contest is off. I can tell that you are gonna be cheating 8 ways to Sunday!

Hahahahahahahaha

Big_D 08-20-2007 07:10 AM

cool, ill be reading up mang

xmas13 08-20-2007 07:29 AM

Good luck

Antonio 08-20-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12953321)
I'm pretty green when it comes to blogging... and yeah. I'm sure you guys will say I'm a moron... but I started building my own little network of blogs a couple days ago over on thumblogger... I just want to see what I can accomplish on there before I start spending money on domains and hosting etc. for that.

I'm treating it as it's own little network from "scratch"... i.e. no linking from my established sites... All I've done so far is submit the first one to a bunch of blog directories and do some pings. First day it was interesting it got over 200 hits from the directories and has been dropping like a rock over the last 3-4 days... I haven't seen any bots crawl it yet.

So here's my question.. What do you guys do to get "real" traffic in there? Is it basically going to be SE long term? Other than directories, pinging and SEs, is there anything else I should do that yields "real" cost effective (time) traffic?



Forget thumblogger, you might as well give me you cc info and hope I'm a nice guy. Lets say you build your thumlogger blogs, you work your ass off and at some point are making $5 000.00 per month, then one sunny day the thumblogger owner finds god and you're screwed. Well, not very likely scenario but you get my point.

If your budget is low or you just don't want to spend too much money but you want say 50 blogs network then wait for a .info domain special and register 50 of them for $50.00, then get some small virtual host for $10.00 per month and that's basically it. The rest is hard work.

What to do to get 'real' traffic - post unique content, get backlinks, do some simple SE optimization - its that simple. When will you get some good SE traffic? It depends on quite a few factors, but in many cases be prepared to wait 6 months or more.

Mistakes I made:
-aiming too low when choosing targeted keyphrases. The thing is you shouldn't aim too high or two low. If you aim too high then be prepared to work really hard for 2-3 years if you want to get on the 1st page of Google for the chosen keyword. If you aim too low and and build your blog around say "black shemales with 2 1/2 inch cocks" you will get to No1 on Google but the amount of traffic you'd be getting is simply not worth your time and effort

-I should've started with original content from the scratch but I didn't. Using RSS feeds only didn't get me far but then again if you have a script to modify the feeds and "create" original content from them you should by all means do it - nothing better than making big $$ with little work. This "morphing feeds" thingy sounds pretty promising too ;)

bDok 08-20-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12943444)

god that is sexy to the geek in me. :thumbsup:thumbsup

JD 08-20-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 12957178)
Very nice. I have 10,300 indexed as of this posting for Edge Report -- only problem is, I never optimized it .. spent only a few minutes setting it up .. and haven't touched it since. :1orglaugh

Pages search: http://www.google.com/search?source=...edgereport.com


hey sex machine can you hit me back on icq? Sent you a msg but you're showing as offline :pimp

Pornwolf 08-20-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 12958393)

What to do to get 'real' traffic - post unique content, get backlinks, do some simple SE optimization - its that simple. When will you get some good SE traffic? It depends on quite a few factors, but in many cases be prepared to wait 6 months or more.

Mistakes I made:
-aiming too low when choosing targeted keyphrases. The thing is you shouldn't aim too high or two low. If you aim too high then be prepared to work really hard for 2-3 years if you want to get on the 1st page of Google for the chosen keyword. If you aim too low and and build your blog around say "black shemales with 2 1/2 inch cocks" you will get to No1 on Google but the amount of traffic you'd be getting is simply not worth your time and effort

-I should've started with original content from the scratch but I didn't. Using RSS feeds only didn't get me far but then again if you have a script to modify the feeds and "create" original content from them you should by all means do it - nothing better than making big $$ with little work. This "morphing feeds" thingy sounds pretty promising too ;)

Thanks for posting your experiences.

I agree with the last statement. There's nothing wrong with using morphing feeds. It's a hellluva tool and should be used by all means.

The ONLY reason I still advocate writing your own posts for some of your blogs is the control of the keywords in the text. Even though the morphing feeds will be fairly unique to you, they will still contain similar keywords across the different affiliates' sites.

If you want to stand out and have a leg up those morphing feeds don't then original text is the way to go.

HeadPimp 08-20-2007 03:07 PM

Pornwolf, if you don't mind me asking, what do you use to co-ordinate the auto posting of all your affiliate program RSS feeds?

Jace 08-20-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 12960404)
Pornwolf, if you don't mind me asking, what do you use to co-ordinate the auto posting of all your affiliate program RSS feeds?

not sure about pornwolf, but I use www.autobloggerpro.com

Phoenix 08-20-2007 04:09 PM

good thread..lets keep it going

Rui 08-20-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12960727)
good thread..lets keep it going

This is surely a kind of thread, you sadly don't often see here :(

montel 08-20-2007 07:02 PM

pornwolf - great thread

rezdesign 08-20-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12949235)
I've had completely the opposite experience with Webair btw.

That's not bro support, it's the truth.



.


same here, :thumbsup webair

Jace 08-20-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12958183)
Hmm, ok, I think the contest is off. I can tell that you are gonna be cheating 8 ways to Sunday!

Hahahahahahahaha


ha, well, I am not going to something if I can't do it my way, contest or not

I have spent years of time and tons of money building my systems, to go back to doing one blog with no help from my tools I have available would be a sheer waste of my time

Toreador 08-20-2007 07:58 PM

I just started my own mini network as well, but on my own domain. As listed here I made subdomains. Have primalkiss.com, extreme.primalkiss and teens.primalkiss. I started off using rss feed from the progs I'm signed up to, but noticed it was all generic. I killed the feed then went back and manually edited them all for a personal flare, also dcided to host the images on my domain as well. Then linked all relevant blogs to eachother, then cross links as well. Using the standard all in one seo, wp o matic and tags to get all the seo up to par...to a degree anyways.

Every post I submit to either ping-o-matic, pinggoat or pingmyblog. Then, after advice from here started nailing porndiggity and bookmarkyourporn. Traffic is gaining, no sales as of yet butI'm working like a fucking machine on these. Updating daily on all, sometimes twice depending on the day and I sit hoping.

Just my :2 cents:

teg0 08-20-2007 07:59 PM

I'm doing the same thing right now.

Nicky 08-20-2007 08:23 PM

Jace, in your experience is it a big difference to have a unique ip to each blog or have you had success with several domains on 1 ip too?

Pornwolf 08-20-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12960727)
good thread..lets keep it going

Definitely, let's try to do that.

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Originally Posted by Rui (Post 12960980)
This is surely a kind of thread, you sadly don't often see here :(

Yeah, it's rare now a days. No one is sharing info anymore. Maybe because there's only 4 actual webmasters, 4,000 sponsor reps and 40,000 surfers here now!

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Originally Posted by montel (Post 12961543)
pornwolf - great thread

Thanks Montel. I loved your talk show! :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 12958267)
Good luck

I appreciate it. This should generate a lot of traffic by XMas. ;)

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Originally Posted by Big_D (Post 12958194)
cool, ill be reading up mang

Do that. I may do a latin one soon.

Jace 08-20-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 12961829)
Jace, in your experience is it a big difference to have a unique ip to each blog or have you had success with several domains on 1 ip too?

I always mix it up

in total i have 8 virtual accounts at various hosts and 1 server with 5 class c blocks

AnneT 08-20-2007 09:37 PM

Great thread guys! I'll be watching this closely.

I'm learning blogging from scratch after years of galleries. Loving the new challenge but it's daunting as hell. I'll be hassling you guys (Jace and Pornwolf) on icq before long, I'm sure. I'm keen to develop my own networks using tools like those described here :)

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Pornwolf 08-21-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 12960404)
Pornwolf, if you don't mind me asking, what do you use to co-ordinate the auto posting of all your affiliate program RSS feeds?

www.autobloggerpro.com

It's a great program. The truth is you could find plug ins to do most of the things it does... but, not in a cohesive package with a great and efficient work flow like it has. Making all of the plug ins work together the way ABP does would be hard.

Plus, when you get a one on one support session with Edgeprod it really kicks the program into high gear.

When you see someone refer something with that kind of price tag with no affiliate program you know it must be good.

Nicky 08-21-2007 09:30 AM

Great great thread :)

Walrus 08-21-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12953004)
Walrus, that sucks. I feel for you man, I really do. It reminds me of the time I tried my hand at mainstream SEO before blogs became a tool. Long hours of work that ended up paying me less per hour than anything I did in adult.


Here's the deal, I'll give you 4 tips that should turn things around for you
  1. Focus on getting backlinks for your blog. No matter if you have 80 posts or 8,000 posts, if you don't have relevant backlinks to your blog (by categories if possible) you will not have much success. Once you have enough backlinks you end up in a trusted zone with google and it will update you more often and with higher rankings. Do a board search for blog directories, ping, and trackbacks. Also, simple link trades help.

  2. Increase your catagories, niches and etc. Long tail keywords is what will keep the money flowing. With 80 categories I can virtually assure you you aren't hitting enough of them to make it worth your while.

  3. Speed up your post making by doing two things:

    • Write posts in a conversational style. Write them as you would say them. don't overthink it. Don't try to sell hard, write them as you are talking to the person. For instance, if you have a fetish set from a fetish site you are promoting the first thing you may think is, "I bet this woman is sweating like a pig under all that latex. She's hot though, I'd love to pin some clips on those nipples! Click here to see her scream with pleasure after the electricity is turned on!" It's more important for them to be relevant and personal than it is for them to be long.

    • If you are hosting the content make sure you arrange it beforehand. That way the workflow goes much faster. Organization is key with blogs


  4. If blog writing just isn't your strong point, don't be afraid to pull morphing feeds. There's plenty of sponsors that have them and as Jace said they do work well. I do them on some blogs myself. My main blogs are hand written for two reasons, I can talk about a bunch of stuff that porn feeds never do and keep it entertaining which also pulls more SE clicks and gets links from other places because guys & girls talk about it and pass some of the links around the web. Also, I like to write if you haven't noticed. ;)

If you do everything I just said you will see it turn around. I'm sure Jace can add a few things.

If you don't do anything else, make sure you work on your backlinks on the main blog. That should at least make you a few sales a month for the next 5 years.

Thanks for the tips, PornWolf. Some very good info you're sharing there.

HighEnergy 08-21-2007 10:23 PM

GREAT THREAD Pornwolf!
Webmasters sharing with webmasters on a 'no bullshit' business level.
Isn't that what boards/forums are for?
Two thumbs up! :thumbsup:thumbsup

Clark Miller 08-21-2007 10:28 PM

hmmmmm.....

WallaceW 08-29-2007 06:10 AM

Hi. As you can see I don't post much on GFY because I like to read :) About 80 posts in 5 years on GFY, and I am visiting GFY every day :)

So, I have one question and as I can see there is many many pro bloggers here and maybe someone will help me :)

It's about blog network linking... For example, I am doing 5 niches and have a network of 20 blogs, and for example 1 niche - 3 blogs (like 3 blogs hardcore, 3 blogs teen, ... so 5 niches = 15 blogs) and the rest 5 blogs are general (all niches) blogs...

So for this example, what would you recomend me for linking all the blogs in the network?

Putting all the blogs in the blogroll? Or linking the keywords in the posts to the other blogs? How to link for example teen blog with shemale blog and have good results in search engines with that? And so on...

I know you have the knowledge in this matter, but I hope someone have time and good will to share that knowledge with me and the others willing to learn something :)

Thank you in advance

maxjohan 08-29-2007 07:52 AM

Deserves a bump.. very good thread..

:thumbsup

Pornwolf 08-29-2007 07:53 AM

This is why I miss Jayeff. He taught me the art of cross linking many years ago.
That guy was really a wonderful source of info.

I think before I or anyone else answers this question we would first need to know if the blogs are on separate domains. Do you have separate IP's? How old are the domains and if you have multiple niches, which blog is ranked the highest in each niche?

Let me note, there's a few right answers for this. Some will do it differently than others since there's a complex way to do it, an extra careful way to do it and other ways. It's up to the individual.

martinsc 08-29-2007 10:28 AM

another bump for a great thread :thumbsup

WallaceW 08-29-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 13003907)
I think before I or anyone else answers this question we would first need to know if the blogs are on separate domains. Do you have separate IP's? How old are the domains and if you have multiple niches, which blog is ranked the highest in each niche?

Let me note, there's a few right answers for this. Some will do it differently than others since there's a complex way to do it, an extra careful way to do it and other ways. It's up to the individual.

Hi PornWolf, and thank you for your interest...

First, this was hypothetical question. What I am doing now are tgp/mgp network and I don't have any single blog yet :) But I am planning to start a blog network and I want to do it right from the start. That's why I am asking this.

About IPs and domains. I have about 15 old and unused domains with solid names but without any SEO value. What I am planning to do is to open every new blog on separate domain, with different IP. But the problem is that I am not sure I can have many different C class IPs. All IPs will be different but maybe on only 2 C classes. I know it would be good to have diff C classes but it's pretty difficult for me to accomplish that. Spreading like 100 blogs on 100 hostings would be real nightmare for me. So I'll focus on better keyword linking of the blogs instead of better IP plan.

Also, one question about domains... Registering like 100 domains with all the same info is not good right? Search Engines count those details like domain infos, contacts, DNSes, and so?

Once again, the whole thing here is hypothetical, for better understanding and for better start...

Thanx

Elixir 08-31-2007 04:42 AM

Great threat !!! Very very interesting!

PornWolf can you show us your blogs please?
And can you post your stats please?

On the top !

Elixir 08-31-2007 09:26 AM

bump bump

OG LennyT 08-31-2007 10:12 AM

bump for the thread of the year :)

Pornwolf 08-31-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 13013782)
Great threat !!! Very very interesting!

PornWolf can you show us your blogs please?
And can you post your stats please?

On the top !


Absolutely. That's what this is all about.

Every step will be documented.

I think the reason more folks don't post their blogs for critique is because it's too easy for others to scrape their feeds. That would be a real problem for sure.

On the new batch I'm not worried about that. This is for everyone to see. You will understand why soon enough.

PornMySex 09-03-2007 08:19 AM

I'm working full time in the adult business but have some free time. So i just decided to make 10 webcam blogs.

I just bought the domains and installed linkex. I'm gonna install wordpress today. I will promote about 10 webcams and adult dating sites.

My goal is to reach 200 bucks at the end of september.

I will let you know.

Angie77 09-03-2007 09:25 AM

sig spot!

Nicky 09-03-2007 11:31 AM

Keep this one close to the top, good info being added all the time :)

4Pics 09-03-2007 08:06 PM

bump back up

Jace 09-03-2007 08:09 PM

i miss jayeff too

Zuss 09-04-2007 07:50 AM

I just installed autoblogger pro SA, and I'm not sure if I like it. It seems to be offering a ridiciolous small amount of option for 300$. Or maybe I just don't know how to use it properly. It grabs all feeds, posts ALL entrys to my blog...rewriting doesn't work (do I have to put " " around every word?) . Nothing is shuffled ..and does that thing ping a hundred times my ping services..with no proxy support? WTF...?!

What I do like is the menu. It's very simple and easy to navigate. Bur for 300$, I'm dissapointed. Or I just have to find out how to use it. Is there a manual somewhere?


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