Originally Posted by a1ka1ine (Post 12948629)

i wish i had done that rather than WoW. rather than being an imba geared l70 druid I would be a richer person and less pale :P

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 12948669)

Haha. Could be worse. You could have a 70 feral druid and a 70 destruction lock, 60 rogue and 54 paladin. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12948635)

give me some time to talk to sponsors, might be able to get this going pretty nicely

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12948692)

omfg, are we in 8th grade again? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12948736)

Now that I think about it... why not keep it to one DVD Site sponsor since we can do unlimited niches with one good site that has thousands of DVDs. Because they are DVD sites with a ton of genres you can target a ton of keywords which as all of you know is the key determining factor of how many options you have for gathering traffic.

I say we should go with Profit X's site since it's new, has no surfer over saturation, offers PPS which makes for easier record keeping and it's run by Stan from Envision Next who most of us know already so we can get real traffic confirmation. That way we all start on an equal footing with very little current SE competition on the site also.

Movie Room is also a good looking new site with very little saturation. But revshare may not be right for this competiton and I can't confirm the conversion ratios personally as I can with Profit X's. I will be using them in the future no matter what though.


What do you fellas say to 1 domain, 1 IP, 1 sponsor, 1 host. Real equal footing.


I'm sure I can talk Webair Mike into offering hosting with 1 clean IP specifically for each contestant. That way we have stats verifiable by a 3rd party we trust.

What say you?

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12948736)

I'm sure I can talk Webair Mike into offering hosting with 1 clean IP specifically for each contestant. That way we have stats verifiable by a 3rd party we trust.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12948996)

I was thinking about getting 10-20 sponsors involved, offer a couple thousand dollars for first prize, unlimited blogs/domains but all have to have registration date of the contest start date

the sponsors involved would be willing to post stats publicly of the top 5, etc

I am thinking LARGE scale contest

Originally Posted by Rui (Post 12950354)

The idea of a blog contest sure has legs to walk, hell run

I would actually involve some webmastering (the drama!!!), though I do agree it should be on a semi-close environment (limit to number of domains, blogs, list of sponsors,etc..)

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12951932)

That's the only way to keep it fair and easy to track IMHO.

Keeping the number of domains and IP's limited to 1 is a given. If we don't do that someone can just use Webair's SEO package with 236 IP's over 4 C classes and cheat without us knowing. Everyone cannot do that. This isn't a test of how much you can afford to do... it's about how much you know.

1 domain, 1 ip, 1 host...

The competition should be measured in 2 ways:

*how much traffic you get

and

*how many signups you get


Now, the sponsors is a different issue. If we use a dozen plus sponsors it stops being a controlled contest because we are then subject to the many variations of different sponsors conversion ratios. If one blogger makes more posts about the wrong sponsor they lose. It's not a scientific test it becomes more about luck.

So, to keep it fair and to be able to gage this on skill the sponsors should be limited.

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 12952517)

:1orglaugh

Sorry, I want no part of that contest. If you're interested in spending your whole day adding original content to 1 blog then go ahead. I think I would rather spend my time making some money.

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 12952517)

:1orglaugh

Sorry, I want no part of that contest. If you're interested in spending your whole day adding original content to 1 blog then go ahead. I think I would rather spend my time making some money.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12952541)

i will have to think about this more...

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12952597)

Guys, if you know blogs then you know that domain can have limitless subdomains. And if you are really good, you know how to make sure every category created gets it's own subdomain that you can treat as it's own fiefdom.

I'm kinda surprised at your answers.

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12942405)

Here's a cool side project. I'm starting a new network of blogs that will promote Video Download sites exclusively. Usually I go revshare on these kinds of sites because it makes more money than PPS over the long haul. I will do both revshare and PPS just to compare during this project. I'm having all the posts written exclusively for these blogs.


This is who I'm using to start:

Video Sexperts - New & fresh (that's important) and converts incredibly so far.

Videosz - Old standby. Ratios still good even with no trial.

DVD Tube - Platinum Buck's new site. I haven't tried it yet but looks good

There's a couple that fell off dramatically that I used to use but that I won't be using on this project.

If there's any other DVD Download sites I'm missing post here and I may sign up if they look good. I don't need a bunch but one or two more good ones would be nice

I know a lot of you guys are interested in knowing how well blogs can work. So, I'm going to do this network from scratch and show you.

Starting in October I will give you'z guys a report on how many blogs are rolling... Who's converting the best and how the traffic is increasing.

Blog traffic is slow at first but the monthly updates should be pretty interesting. Anyway it goes this will be fun to watch and it should answer a lot of folk's questions about blog traffic.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12952642)

actually, it isn't that, to me doing a single domain, single ip, etc sounds rather boring...my mind is entirely too scattered to focus on one single blog, even if it has subdomains, etc.

not to mention that I only us rss feeds, and one single domain won't cut it for that

I am more interested in doing this for the advanced blog webmasters with as many tools that are out there...that way when all is said and done we all have huge traffic networks and the winners can explain how they did it, so even if you didn't win you learn how the winners DID win

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12942405)

Blog traffic is slow at first but the monthly updates should be pretty interesting.

Originally Posted by Rui (Post 12952680)

Correct me if I'm wrong but this post gives the idea you don't actually rely on original and new posts, but ONLY on RSS Feeds, tell me it aint so :helpme:error

Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 12952752)

Pornwolf, could you elaborate more on this please? I started my first blog back in May and it is incredibly slow to drive SE traffic to it. I'm creating some high quality posts with lots of text. Takes a good hour for me to write the entries. I've written nearly 40 high quality entries and only made two sales.

I worked it out... I'm estimating 80 hours (One hour per entry plus all the other work involved) of work on this blog divided by $27.47 equals about $.34 cents an hour. I don't think it's a problem with conversions. The conversion ratio for both sales were quite good. It's the traffic that just isn't coming in. I am doing trades.

I am not surprised at all that about 85% of the adult blogs I see out there are abandonded. Who wants to spend all that time working on your blog and make such a small amount?

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12953004)

Walrus, that sucks. I feel for you man, I really do. It reminds me of the time I tried my hand at mainstream SEO before blogs became a tool. Long hours of work that ended up paying me less per hour than anything I did in adult.


Here's the deal, I'll give you 4 tips that should turn things around for you

1. Focus on getting backlinks for your blog. No matter if you have 80 posts or 8,000 posts, if you don't have relevant backlinks to your blog (by categories if possible) you will not have much success. Once you have enough backlinks you end up in a trusted zone with google and it will update you more often and with higher rankings. Do a board search for blog directories, ping, and trackbacks. Also, simple link trades help.
   
   
2. Increase your catagories, niches and etc. Long tail keywords is what will keep the money flowing. With 80 categories I can virtually assure you you aren't hitting enough of them to make it worth your while.
   
   
3. Speed up your post making by doing two things:
   
   
   • Write posts in a conversational style. Write them as you would say them. don't overthink it. Don't try to sell hard, write them as you are talking to the person. For instance, if you have a fetish set from a fetish site you are promoting the first thing you may think is, "I bet this woman is sweating like a pig under all that latex. She's hot though, I'd love to pin some clips on those nipples! Click here to see her scream with pleasure after the electricity is turned on!" It's more important for them to be relevant and personal than it is for them to be long.
     
     
   • If you are hosting the content make sure you arrange it beforehand. That way the workflow goes much faster. Organization is key with blogs
   
   
   
4. If blog writing just isn't your strong point, don't be afraid to pull morphing feeds. There's plenty of sponsors that have them and as Jace said they do work well. I do them on some blogs myself. My main blogs are hand written for two reasons, I can talk about a bunch of stuff that porn feeds never do and keep it entertaining which also pulls more SE clicks and gets links from other places because guys & girls talk about it and pass some of the links around the web. Also, I like to write if you haven't noticed. ;)

If you do everything I just said you will see it turn around. I'm sure Jace can add a few things.

If you don't do anything else, make sure you work on your backlinks on the main blog. That should at least make you a few sales a month for the next 5 years.

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12953321)

So here's my question.. What do you guys do to get "real" traffic in there? Is it basically going to be SE long term? Other than directories, pinging and SEs, is there anything else I should do that yields "real" cost effective (time) traffic?

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 12955536)

I'll start a new blog tonight and post results as time goes.

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12942405)

How much money can a blog network make when you start it from scratch? Find out now

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12955557)

I add my new sites into that script and they are usually crawled within a day and at least 20-30 pages in the engines within a week

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 12957178)

Very nice. I have 10,300 indexed as of this posting for Edge Report -- only problem is, I never optimized it .. spent only a few minutes setting it up .. and haven't touched it since. :1orglaugh

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