Thax you so much for clarifying that, I do apologize for coming off like such a dick about all this it just really freaked me out is all. We are really seeing a HUGE migration of viewers from the OS models to these ?web.20? sites as some call it and yours is really the KING of all these. I really do understand you guys are getting a overwhelming number of submissions now, and all the problems that are coming from this, but you have to understand the reasons. As the tubes really are where the traffic is now and everyone is feeling the heat of all this change.

Its really up to you to set rules, or to deny anyone from submitting if they break these rules, but like you said a all out WM ban it just going to make the situation worse for everyone. You guys are NOT going anyplace and if anything you and the other tubes are going to get a even larger percentage of the market share. Some I am sure are not happy about this so all this bitching comes out, but IMO it might be better to just try to work with the WM community to work these problems out. We really can both benefit from this, and I for one will work with you in anyway I can but I have to pay my rent at the same time you understand :)

I am just talking as a WM/site owner here but, I really do have to think if their was some way to boost the return traffic a bit most of the problems would vanish overnight. I really do understand you guys have huge bandwidth bills, and have to make money but maybe just a bit better placement of return links or a bit larger ones might really do much to fix the situation. As other will see a bigger return from working with you thus, destroying most arguments against you. Now this will not be perfect LOL, you guys are kind of now in the middle of all this and are a easy target as such. But I have to think with a bit more traffic most will have to give up all the bitching and just really get behind working with you. Now of course this is just IMO, but I do think this ?working with us? strategy will accomplish much more than a ban. There are other ways to do this as well, but this is kind of a simply one and would really show some that just working with you is the best thing to do and shut them up.

Trust me most of us would LOVE to work with you, now days your one of the only games in town, but as such this is going to get a bit messy for you. I would also suggest not letting ?them? get to you so much as long as your doing your best to do the right thing by everyone you should be able to sleep good at nigh. Your never going to make everyone happy, but like I as just showing you are really trying to do what you can will go a long way. I do apologize again for freaking out so bad but I hope you understand a bit better now why, really if you guys snub us this will hurt so many hard working people.

I would love if you have time if you could just make a post to clarify this one GMS as well, but that like everything else it up to you.

My only question is whether or not you have on your submission page something like "You must own license to publish the content you are submitting."

In a word ?Traffic? where else are they going to get it most viewers are on these tubes now, and the tubes are not going anyplace. Its not the best situation but it is the situation we are in

YouTube says that clearly on their upload page - doesn't seem to work!

You clearly have not read ANYthing I have written. Scroll up or page-back and read the process I outlined.[/QUOTE]


OHHHH, Okay, thats "good spam"

LOL?????

It doesn't, and Google is on the received end of a motherfucker of a lawsuit from viacom and others. There is no reason not to have an "inspection step" for the posting of videos, where screeners look to make sure the material isn't illegal or stolen. They do it to separate out adult material, so why not have a hitlist of things that aren't suppose to get through?

Xtube's entire business model on this one is based on "we are just a host", but that has already been shown to be less than the case. It is their justification for ripping everyone else off, and it is a pretty poor justification.

heh, yeah I wouldnt expect it to "work" in terms of preventing everyone from uploading unlicensed content.

But if a site doesn't state that you are not to upload content which you are not licensed to publish, couldnt someone argue that you passively support it (by not caring to even mention it)? Seems like a decent "cover your own ass" type of thing.

I think people will be watching the youtube/viacom suit pretty closely in any case for precedent.

Look how this site did it.
wambovision.com

So... did you remove the link right?

i like poo

Ya guys what is going on now seems all the banners and links have now been removed?

Well WM?s are not getting this for Free they are the ones that pay for the content, and are the only ones that should be allowed to summit vids as they have the documents and are 2257 complain while ?amateur? viewers are NOT. I did think you guys understood this, but now your just going to remove all return links and banners?

This is just going to make the situation 100 times worse, as NO content owner will want their vids on your site, with just a watermark to generate some kind of return. While you guys are making money off of others content they own and created. I can really see you guys losing a Huge chunk of videos you do have, and all new ones will just about be assured to me DMCA violations, 2257 violations, CP, and any video that does not look like it was created with a home cam should be immediately removed.

I really hope this is NOT what you are doing, as if it is really stolen content is all you will have, and you will be making sure you just get to keep ALL the money generated from this stolen content. Really do you think this is ?working with us? Please explain what is going on!!!!!!!

Why does all linking code been remove?, now what I have upload would be consider illegal from the sponsors point of view!

Ya some are saying this (issue happened in July when they were moving into their new data center. I am guessing that they are juggling boxes and that particular one is offline or moving again) so basically a server issue or a scrip problem.

They have said their will be NO WM ban, and revolving links like you said would cause ALL kinds of problems for those that worked legit with the content owners to use it on their service.

But will all this Ban talk, then the links going down its a little nerve racking for sure

Hey Max!
So you think the the «no link» is not permanent?

Ya right now is seem like they are just "moving things around" as they have done this in the past. But fuck man how this past few days has gone who they hell really knows :) I guess we will have to wait a few days and see