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8/15/2007
Canoga Park, CA ? The Free Speech Coalition announced Wednesday that it has created a task force to study and address the issue of piracy in the adult entertainment industry. The task force is a result of a decision made by FSC?s Board of Directors at its June 30th board meeting. ?Piracy hurts our members? bottom line,? says Diane Duke FSC Executive Director. ?Piracy is an issue of importance to our members and, therefore, it is of importance to us.? FSC plans to approach different segments of the industry to determine the level of impact piracy has on each segment. They will then quantify their results and develop and prioritize solutions to best meet the needs of their members and the industry as a whole. ?When we say that we are the watchdog for the industry, we don?t just mean from government intrusion,? Duke said. ?We are the watchdog for anything that stands in the way of our members? success.? |
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now to get some of the bigger companies in the industry to stop supporting theft.
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Certainly I wish the you best of luck in your efforts. That said: Personally, I hope that the FSC proceeds with caution. Seems to me the FSC needs a ton of very large contributions to protect the industry from the government, and it needs them on a regular basis. Mixing in content theft / piracy, if you really mean business about it, could start stepping on the toes of many of the companies that make those large contributions to you. I'd hate to see funding start to dry up to fight governmental regulation, because of the new anti-piracy initiatives you're also hoping to achieve. I don't know, this entire industry is one giant incestuous cluster fuck anyway. I'm gonna go read Vanity Fair Magazine and drink my tea. |
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Rob I wonder if that approach is technically a conflict of interest to the FSC.
Many people can and do say that content they put on websites is part of there expression, some say a mere change in content by some 20% can be concluded as a new work. FSC can easily find themselves in a sticky situation. Maybe it would have been wiser to just launch a new organisation.
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Some people believe that copyright laws are against freedom of speech. If you are for 100% free speech, then you are against copyright laws by nature. For free speech to be truly free, it has to be totally unlimited.
FSC appears to be suffering from a lack of focus and a desire to be something more than what it is. They need to stick to the issues that count in their end of town, 2257, freedom to run porn sites, etc. That is a big enough job all by itself. |
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in my personal opinion FSC should focus on free speech and leave the piracy to a group that has the passion for it.
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What is your position of AFF and thier continuing acceptance of traffic off torrent/warez sites? I know they donate a lot of money to you and would like to know your stance on that. I do like the idea behind what you are attempting to do. Heck if it's on the level i'll happily donate. Just wanna make sure this is more than a drive for memberships to the FSC.
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Its bullshit. They do nothing but Beg for money. If webmasters want to fight piracy they need to unite and work together.
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i have a few questions
1) is the fsc going to prosecute individuals that finance piracy through affiliate participation? 2) do you really know what you're getting into? 3) why would the fsc want anything to do with this? thanks. honest questions, not to be perceived as anything else. |
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however, if they are going to prosecute companies and someone is willing to take the massive workload of policing and prosecuting these content thiefs, that would take a lot of stress off of content producers like us. this piracy thing is no joke and it needs to get dealt with. if someone is will to stand up like the rest of us are trying to do then thats great. i hope that the little grass roots thing that we are attempting to start hasn't rushed this thing to the boards. i've never heard about it before or i would have maybe tried to be a part of it all. |
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I think they just want Lars to make a big donation to them, to show that AFF is against piracy.
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Diane Duke FSC Executive Director says "I'm Duke Bitch"
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I personally would prefer it if the FSC sticks to the biggest threat, 2257. While piracy is a huge issue, I'd rather see work on a single front at a time rather than spreading your resources thin among different battles. Especially if the piracy committee might step on toes of some of your bigger contributors.
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Ok WTF!
Nothing needs to be studied and nobody needs a damn committee to figure out the impact of it has on the industry. This falls into one of those many stupid grants to study why men get erections in the presence of naked women type ordeals. Just yet another fucking way to spend more money on something that I am sure most of the industry feels your organization should stay the hell out of. If you want to form a committe or spend some cash how about you form a public relations one with your accounting department so we can see how you are spending the hard earned cash we have been donating to you? Stick to the issues your fairly good at not fixing like 2257, and if which is a big if you want to get envolved in something else. How about some lobby work or at least a PR person to provide a counter talking point to many of the news stories that lump us into the CP world. Get a face out there and hopefully dethrown KB as the only adult figure in the internet talking on TV and in the news. PS did I mention to fucking tell us members how your spending our money?
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FSC plans to approach different segments of the industry to determine the level of impact piracy has on each segment. They will then quantify their results and develop and prioritize solutions to best meet the needs of their members and the industry as a whole. ?When we say that we are the watchdog for the industry, we don?t just mean from government intrusion,? Duke said. ?We are the watchdog for anything that stands in the way of our members? success.? |
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I feel most of the lawyers in the FSC battle piracy for their clients anyway...So having this Think Tank of them all battling it together...I say
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I feel most of the lawyers in the FSC battle piracy for their clients anyway...So having this Think Tank of them all battling it together...I say
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Holy Cow GFY is acting up sorry about the triple play
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A few of thge big GUILTY companies have asked them to do that so that it looks like something is being done. then the FSC will ask us for more money.
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Using stolen content to sell ads is not free speech. I agree after shock, what do they have to study and who are they going to talk to? If its a big bt ad buyer they are going to say its just those trolls on gfy dont worry. I think they have no idea have many big toes they would have to step on, if they are serious. If they truly had the balls,they would become the most respected nonprofit in our industry.
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I'm laughing ma cunt off reading this thread, half yous cunts have had torrent and filesharing sites promote your crappy sites for years, 1st cunt exposed is tony404 who posted right above this quick reply box i'm typing into, so you needn't post here acting as if your any better, your making money out of the torrent traffic too.
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so will FSC kick out members who profit from piracy now?
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I'm all for stopping piracy and theft, but I don't see how this falls within the parameters of the FSC.
If you go from protecting "free speech" to being the hired guns/legal mouthpiece for the porn industry I think your effectiveness will be diminished. |
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as a FSC member I would prefer you to spend time and funds working on FSC matters, mainly 2257.
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I 100% agree with datingGold.
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I, personally, think the FSC wants to analyze the problem and find the types of piracy doing the greatest amount of damage, set priorites according to the frequency and severity of the damages, choose the cases wisely in order to create "stare decisis" to rely on in future cases, and organize an effective effort to affect change.
I think that this is an industry-wide issue that can only be addressed effectively by the industry at large. If any member continues to be pirated, the entire industry suffers. Pirates don't care where they get the content. A ripped DVD is just as good as stolen website content. IMHO. |
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Here Red Rob...
Wanna get a service going on to protect content? Give these guys a call. Make a deal with the technology, provide a front tier of content protection promote it and sell it to adult webmasters. Collect a monthly fee and split the revenue. http://www.baytsp.com srsly... There is not really a better web based content protection technology out there. However I would also like to point out that COntent Producer's rather whine about the piracy than do somehting about it. The VIdeo Industry did this same exact thing. They knew Piracy was happening whined about it alot and never did anything about it. If people want to protect thier content there is a way and means to do it and it's relatively easy and has been around for long time. That link above will truly give rise to protecting content for "concerned" companies. Though at the end of all that effort you will find hardly any content producer will enroll those sorts of solutions to protecting content. They wont do it I gurantee it. It's easier to cry about content theft than protect it. Content protection is the sole responsibility of producers... They make money from it, it is thier bread and butter but again they will do nothing about its theft. Its easier to just shoot more.
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So in conclusion Rob you guys at the FSC are really just chasing a Red Herring and like the other guys said as well.
You will end up pissing people off stepping on toes and most likely loose people that put money into the FSC pockets. Thats the sad truth.
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Ok, but what does any of that have to do with Free Speech?
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Edge follow the link.
It is DRM but slightly better. Me and the founder go way back.
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This amuses me to no end The FSC? I bet they never even heard of USENET and thats the biggest threat.
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Ok I will challenge the FSC right here and now!
I will give the FSC 90% of every dollar they win in court protecting my content. I will even give them the names of people pirating it (LOOK OUT AFF) All they gotta do is fiile suit and win and I will help em every step of the way. They could have millions from me alone. now FSC show us what you are REALLY made of. Show us this is a real concern and not just something you are making noise about to justify your existance.
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