Gallery submitting in 2007 - GoFuckYourself.com

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 06:29 AM

Hey guys... slowly getting back into some adult stuff to get my mind off the mainstream sites

I'm doing a complete redesign for an old domain that was empty for a few months. The site is www.supercuteteens.com , still adding content and sections to it. Hardlink trades with teen sites are welcome

Anyway, after the site is ready to get some more traffic, I plan to build teen galleries and get them listed on teen TGPs. Wich brings me to the question:

How to start submitting galleries in 2007 ?

I'm not a noob, I just left gallery submitting 3 years ago and all my partner accounts are gone. So where do I start?

I'm building teen galleries only, high quality content, very simple design, 15 pics, hand-cropped thumbs, only 2 links, doing my best to find fresh girls and content.

Example

I know The Hun hasnt changed, and I'm building galleries that match his standards. Now where else should I go apply for partner accounts, buy partner accounts, or just submit my galleries?

I am not looking to buy spots at the moment.

I'm looking at the big TGPs right now, checking who accepts new partners, but any help is welcome

If you run a teen TGP and want a partner submitter you can trust, feel free to hit me up on ICQ.

Bruce_Miller · 08-14-2007, 06:38 AM

bump for you... I'm also interested in the replies, we are just starting to submit galleries ourselves after being in the business for several years...

Pornwolf · 08-14-2007, 06:49 AM

Hi Tuga, I imagine it shouldn't be hard for you. Most should remember you.

polish_aristocrat · 08-14-2007, 06:54 AM

It's beyong me how people can make money with galleries nowadays

I failed 3-4 years ago with them and it must have been far easier back then.. although already back then I thought to myself that "it must have been far easier back then"...

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

It's beyong me how people can make money with galleries nowadays

I failed 3-4 years ago with them and it must have been far easier back then.. although already back then I thought to myself that "it must have been far easier back then"...

It's not just about making money from galleries, it's getting traffic and SEO to my own site too.

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 06:58 AM

Stupid question: how do you get an account at tgpsitecentral.com ?

JeanClaude VanDamme · 08-14-2007, 07:05 AM

Galleries submitting in 2007 is quite hard !

You have to invest in some major TGP partner accounts (Worldsex/al4a, Pinkworld, Elephant...) and test what's working with your gals.

You should also try to get some high valued FREE partner accounts like Traffic-bomb, Shemp, Tommys... But it's getting harder and harder, the "easiest" to catch is the Shemp one, he's offering some application each year but you should check the Medium Pimpin board to know when...
Tommys offered some PA some weeks ago on GreenGuy&Jim but it's not so often open...

PartnerAccountRequester is not a real good tool in my own opinion, lots of TGP owners get flooded by requests and only accept a few ones... You should contact them directly (contact form, whois...) and send them some samples to have a small chance to be validated.

Last but not least, Chameleon (or any other auto submit tool) can bring you 15K/day to your gal for a small monthly fee.

You should also try to deversify your posting, I mean, with 2 gals you can create a Free site and then submit it to the major linklists around.

Try to create a blog too and update it daily, make some link exchange and grow up your traffic.

Best things in gals is content. Try to use an unique content, not over promoted, over seen...

And finally, cross your fingers but today it's really hard to start from scratch in galleries submitting. If only you had kept your partner accounts you'd be a killer... :o(

JeanClaude VanDamme · 08-14-2007, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

Stupid question: how do you get an account at tgpsitecentral.com ?

Quite impossible, but don't be so sad, they do not list a lot of your gals, and the traffic is not that huge...

reyz007 · 08-14-2007, 07:09 AM

.
simple way to get many partner account is chameleon partner account requester, you can try 3 month version,

sure, you need HQ galleries with HQ content

.

Violetta · 08-14-2007, 08:10 AM

Hey Tuga... Nice to have you back!

Where in Portugal do you live? Me and my gf are thinking about visiting Algarve next month. We need some sun!

RawAlex · 08-14-2007, 08:17 AM

At this point, the TGP world is divided into 3 major slices:

People who do for themselves: they have their own staffs making galleries, maintaining the sites, and working link exchanges. They don't typically accept outside submits anymore (even if they use to).

People who do paid submits: This varies from submit pass type deals to buying spots. For the most part now you are paying about 30%-50% of potential income for a spot.

People who accept free submits: There are a few of these left, not many, and they tend to get swamped. Many of those have gone to "partner only" so you will need to get partner accounts. It could take you months or years to get those.

Basically, my suggestion is make you own TGP and fill it with your galleries and work traffic trades... in the end you will get more traffic to your stuff.

Sosa · 08-14-2007, 08:38 AM

a lot has changed in the last three years in tgp/mgp submitting.

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

Hey Tuga... Nice to have you back!

Where in Portugal do you live? Me and my gf are thinking about visiting Algarve next month. We need some sun!

I live in Cascais, near Lisbon. Algarve is 300km from here, my father lives there

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanClaude VanDamme

the "easiest" to catch is the Shemp one, he's offering some application each year but you should check the Medium Pimpin board to know when...

I dont think checking that board every day for months until he opens the thread is "easy"

Thanks for your useful reply.

I guess I'll have to dig into those partner accounts and see if any is still active.

Budis · 08-14-2007, 09:57 AM

check submitpasses.com for most of worthy PAs

CaptainHowdy · 08-14-2007, 09:59 AM

Welcome back, Tuga!

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budis

check submitpasses.com for most of worthy PAs

I was doing that right now, already picked a few I want to buy.

PinPine · 08-14-2007, 10:28 AM

in your opinion, how important do you think that the layout is compared to the quality of the pictures ?

Is it any smart to start a "teen" tgp, since this niche is saturated.

janosik · 08-14-2007, 11:25 AM

Gallery submitting is still profitable business ;) All you need is patience and hard work and you can make more than 4k monthly net profit after first year ;)

PinPine · 08-14-2007, 11:36 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you a regular gallery submitter, then wouldn't it be smart to start out a TGP at the same time and try to get some solid bookmarkers ? In my opinion that is catching 2 birds with one stone right ?

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinPine

in your opinion, how important do you think that the layout is compared to the quality of the pictures ?

Is it any smart to start a "teen" tgp, since this niche is saturated.

About the first question, I'm not sure if you're talking about TGPs or galleries.
Anyway, content is king. So I chose pictures over layout, but of course you want to be good at both.

Starting a teen tgp... I would say you can do a lot of better stuff with your time

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinPine

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you a regular gallery submitter, then wouldn't it be smart to start out a TGP at the same time and try to get some solid bookmarkers ? In my opinion that is catching 2 birds with one stone right ?

Yes you may start a TGP and add your recip to the galleries you submit. That is pretty common, but I think big TGPs dont like it anymore when they're recip is next to some TGP noone knows.

I'm going for the solid bookmarkers too, just doing it a little bit different.

the Shemp · 08-14-2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

I dont think checking that board every day for months until he opens the thread is "easy"

Thanks for your useful reply.

I guess I'll have to dig into those partner accounts and see if any is still active.

two months ago, i posted on GFY offering free weekend submit accounts.
i had 200 applications and about 15 passes were given out...yes. they were free and yes im going to do it again....some of those weekenders are now fulltime submitters with me...

HomerSimpson · 08-14-2007, 03:22 PM

Get Chameleon Submitter and start rocking!

signupdamnit · 08-14-2007, 03:35 PM

You know the days of noobs doing well with TGP are over when you see that you have to beg just to be ble to "submit".

What a clusterfuck it has become.

pornguy · 08-14-2007, 03:51 PM

Tuga Richards Realm has a paid inclusion for 40$ for a month. 3 galleries per day.

They do check them and approve them and the traffic is nice quality.

Dirty F · 08-14-2007, 03:58 PM

Violetta · 08-14-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

I live in Cascais, near Lisbon. Algarve is 300km from here, my father lives there

hehe... 300km is a long way!

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

two months ago, i posted on GFY offering free weekend submit accounts.
i had 200 applications and about 15 passes were given out...yes. they were free and yes im going to do it again....some of those weekenders are now fulltime submitters with me...

I saw that on the other board and I know you got loads of requests. I just dont think checking the boards every day for a few months waiting for that thread to come is "easy", I would rather work for a couple of days or just pay for it. But I do understand you have enough trusted submitters and chose to do it like that.

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

You know the days of noobs doing well with TGP are over when you see that you have to beg just to be ble to "submit".

What a clusterfuck it has become.

I used to take submissions on a couple of TGPs and I understand that. I got so much shit and cheaters I moved to FHGs just to avoid dealing with that stuff. Going trough all the shit people submit is a full time job.

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Tuga Richards Realm has a paid inclusion for 40$ for a month. 3 galleries per day.

They do check them and approve them and the traffic is nice quality.

I'll probably buy that one, I remeber his traffic used to do way above average

SomeCreep · 08-14-2007, 07:03 PM

In my opinion, gallery submitting has really gone down the toilet. Not only do most of the big TGPs have 50% less traffic than they did 3 - 5 years ago, but now they charge to review your submitted galleries, then list about 1 in every 10 galleries you submit.

To make things worse, just about every big TGP I know has a rule, where "you cant promote the good sponsors (like Bangbros, Nastydollars, Juggcash, etc)" because 1.) they're too "overexposed" and 2.) the TGP wants to promote those sponsors themselves.

For submitters, the TGP world basically went to shit.

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

In my opinion, gallery submitting has really gone down the toilet. Not only do most of the big TGPs have 50% less traffic than they did 3 - 5 years ago, but now they charge to review your submitted galleries, then list about 1 in every 10 galleries you submit.

To make things worse, just about every big TGP I know has a rule, where "you cant promote the good sponsors (like Bangbros, Nastydollars, Juggcash, etc)" because 1.) they're too "overexposed" and 2.) the TGP wants to promote those sponsors themselves.

For submitters, the TGP world basically went to shit.

If they have 50% of the traffic, the stats are lying because most of the big ones claim to be the same or bigger.

I guess if they got away with charging for partner accounts it's because it's still worth it.

TTiger · 08-14-2007, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanClaude VanDamme

Galleries submitting in 2007 is quite hard !

You have to invest in some major TGP partner accounts (Worldsex/al4a, Pinkworld, Elephant...) and test what's working with your gals.

You should also try to get some high valued FREE partner accounts like Traffic-bomb, Shemp, Tommys... But it's getting harder and harder, the "easiest" to catch is the Shemp one, he's offering some application each year but you should check the Medium Pimpin board to know when...
Tommys offered some PA some weeks ago on GreenGuy&Jim but it's not so often open...

PartnerAccountRequester is not a real good tool in my own opinion, lots of TGP owners get flooded by requests and only accept a few ones... You should contact them directly (contact form, whois...) and send them some samples to have a small chance to be validated.

Last but not least, Chameleon (or any other auto submit tool) can bring you 15K/day to your gal for a small monthly fee.

You should also try to deversify your posting, I mean, with 2 gals you can create a Free site and then submit it to the major linklists around.

Try to create a blog too and update it daily, make some link exchange and grow up your traffic.

Best things in gals is content. Try to use an unique content, not over promoted, over seen...

And finally, cross your fingers but today it's really hard to start from scratch in galleries submitting. If only you had kept your partner accounts you'd be a killer... :o(

how can i get a http://www.traffic-bomb.net/ account?

TTiger · 08-14-2007, 07:44 PM

a trick im using when looking for PA for tgp using agsql i am using google and key agsql partner
http://www.google.ca/search?q=allinu...all&fi lter=0

Tuga · 08-14-2007, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTiger

a trick im using when looking for PA for tgp using agsql i am using google and key agsql partner
http://www.google.ca/search?q=allinu...all&fi lter=0

Nice trick, but only 9 results.

HighEnergy · 08-14-2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

two months ago, i posted on GFY offering free weekend submit accounts.
i had 200 applications and about 15 passes were given out...yes. they were free and yes im going to do it again....some of those weekenders are now fulltime submitters with me...

Were only 15 worthy or was that all you had room for Shemp?

TTiger · 08-14-2007, 10:19 PM

shemp still one of the top tgp:-)

TTiger · 08-14-2007, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

Nice trick, but only 9 results.

with this trick you can find Smart Thumbs user
allinurl: "st submit index php"

the Shemp · 08-14-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighEnergy

Were only 15 worthy or was that all you had room for Shemp?

is was a space issue.. i like to list all the galleries that the partners submit, so that means there is a limit on how many accounts i can give out...

Shoplifter · 08-14-2007, 10:48 PM

We decided a few years back that the way to go was to construct our own TGP's and traffic sources and then send that traffic to our own pay sites.

I do list some galleries from other sponsors but generally these are just to fill out the sites. FHG's generally sell like shit.

If I actually had to submit galleries or list FHG's from the shave ass programs everyone uses I would probably just retire.

da man · 08-15-2007, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

Now where else should I go apply for partner accounts, buy partner accounts...?

Hello Tuga,

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08-14-2007, 06:29 AM	#1
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Gallery submitting in 2007 Hey guys... slowly getting back into some adult stuff to get my mind off the mainstream sites I'm doing a complete redesign for an old domain that was empty for a few months. The site is www.supercuteteens.com , still adding content and sections to it. Hardlink trades with teen sites are welcome Anyway, after the site is ready to get some more traffic, I plan to build teen galleries and get them listed on teen TGPs. Wich brings me to the question: How to start submitting galleries in 2007 ? I'm not a noob, I just left gallery submitting 3 years ago and all my partner accounts are gone. So where do I start? I'm building teen galleries only, high quality content, very simple design, 15 pics, hand-cropped thumbs, only 2 links, doing my best to find fresh girls and content. Example I know The Hun hasnt changed, and I'm building galleries that match his standards. Now where else should I go apply for partner accounts, buy partner accounts, or just submit my galleries? I am not looking to buy spots at the moment. I'm looking at the big TGPs right now, checking who accepts new partners, but any help is welcome If you run a teen TGP and want a partner submitter you can trust, feel free to hit me up on ICQ. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

08-14-2007, 06:49 AM	#3
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Hi Tuga, I imagine it shouldn't be hard for you. Most should remember you. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

08-14-2007, 06:54 AM	#4
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	It's beyong me how people can make money with galleries nowadays I failed 3-4 years ago with them and it must have been far easier back then.. although already back then I thought to myself that "it must have been far easier back then"... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

08-14-2007, 06:58 AM	#6
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Stupid question: how do you get an account at tgpsitecentral.com ? __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

08-14-2007, 07:09 AM	#9
reyz007 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,495	. simple way to get many partner account is chameleon partner account requester, you can try 3 month version, sure, you need HQ galleries with HQ content . __________________ --------------------------------------------- + + + NEED TRAFFIC??? CLICK HERE!! + + + ---------------------------------------------

08-14-2007, 06:38 AM	#2
Bruce_Miller Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 4REALCASH.COM Posts: 783	bump for you... I'm also interested in the replies, we are just starting to submit galleries ourselves after being in the business for several years...

08-14-2007, 07:05 AM	#7
JeanClaude VanDamme Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 652	Galleries submitting in 2007 is quite hard ! You have to invest in some major TGP partner accounts (Worldsex/al4a, Pinkworld, Elephant...) and test what's working with your gals. You should also try to get some high valued FREE partner accounts like Traffic-bomb, Shemp, Tommys... But it's getting harder and harder, the "easiest" to catch is the Shemp one, he's offering some application each year but you should check the Medium Pimpin board to know when... Tommys offered some PA some weeks ago on GreenGuy&Jim but it's not so often open... PartnerAccountRequester is not a real good tool in my own opinion, lots of TGP owners get flooded by requests and only accept a few ones... You should contact them directly (contact form, whois...) and send them some samples to have a small chance to be validated. Last but not least, Chameleon (or any other auto submit tool) can bring you 15K/day to your gal for a small monthly fee. You should also try to deversify your posting, I mean, with 2 gals you can create a Free site and then submit it to the major linklists around. Try to create a blog too and update it daily, make some link exchange and grow up your traffic. Best things in gals is content. Try to use an unique content, not over promoted, over seen... And finally, cross your fingers but today it's really hard to start from scratch in galleries submitting. If only you had kept your partner accounts you'd be a killer... :o(

08-14-2007, 08:10 AM	#10
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	Hey Tuga... Nice to have you back! Where in Portugal do you live? Me and my gf are thinking about visiting Algarve next month. We need some sun! __________________ M&A Queen

08-14-2007, 08:17 AM	#11
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	At this point, the TGP world is divided into 3 major slices: People who do for themselves: they have their own staffs making galleries, maintaining the sites, and working link exchanges. They don't typically accept outside submits anymore (even if they use to). People who do paid submits: This varies from submit pass type deals to buying spots. For the most part now you are paying about 30%-50% of potential income for a spot. People who accept free submits: There are a few of these left, not many, and they tend to get swamped. Many of those have gone to "partner only" so you will need to get partner accounts. It could take you months or years to get those. Basically, my suggestion is make you own TGP and fill it with your galleries and work traffic trades... in the end you will get more traffic to your stuff.

08-14-2007, 08:38 AM	#12
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	a lot has changed in the last three years in tgp/mgp submitting.

08-14-2007, 09:57 AM	#15
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08-14-2007, 09:59 AM	#16
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08-14-2007, 10:28 AM	#18
PinPine Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 385	in your opinion, how important do you think that the layout is compared to the quality of the pictures ? Is it any smart to start a "teen" tgp, since this niche is saturated. __________________ ICQ: 490974172 Looking for hardlink trades: www.solidteens.com/linkex/

08-14-2007, 11:25 AM	#19
janosik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 755	Gallery submitting is still profitable business ;) All you need is patience and hard work and you can make more than 4k monthly net profit after first year ;)

08-14-2007, 11:36 AM	#20
PinPine Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 385	Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you a regular gallery submitter, then wouldn't it be smart to start out a TGP at the same time and try to get some solid bookmarkers ? In my opinion that is catching 2 birds with one stone right ? __________________ ICQ: 490974172 Looking for hardlink trades: www.solidteens.com/linkex/

08-14-2007, 03:22 PM	#24
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08-14-2007, 03:35 PM	#25
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	You know the days of noobs doing well with TGP are over when you see that you have to beg just to be ble to "submit". What a clusterfuck it has become.

08-14-2007, 03:51 PM	#26
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Tuga Richards Realm has a paid inclusion for 40$ for a month. 3 galleries per day. They do check them and approve them and the traffic is nice quality. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

08-14-2007, 03:58 PM	#27
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08-14-2007, 07:03 PM	#32
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	In my opinion, gallery submitting has really gone down the toilet. Not only do most of the big TGPs have 50% less traffic than they did 3 - 5 years ago, but now they charge to review your submitted galleries, then list about 1 in every 10 galleries you submit. To make things worse, just about every big TGP I know has a rule, where "you cant promote the good sponsors (like Bangbros, Nastydollars, Juggcash, etc)" because 1.) they're too "overexposed" and 2.) the TGP wants to promote those sponsors themselves. For submitters, the TGP world basically went to shit. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

08-14-2007, 07:44 PM	#35
TTiger Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: quebec, canada Posts: 3,030	a trick im using when looking for PA for tgp using agsql i am using google and key agsql partner http://www.google.ca/search?q=allinu...all&fi lter=0 __________________

08-14-2007, 10:19 PM	#38
TTiger Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: quebec, canada Posts: 3,030	shemp still one of the top tgp:-) __________________

08-14-2007, 10:48 PM	#41
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,771	We decided a few years back that the way to go was to construct our own TGP's and traffic sources and then send that traffic to our own pay sites. I do list some galleries from other sponsors but generally these are just to fill out the sites. FHG's generally sell like shit. If I actually had to submit galleries or list FHG's from the shave ass programs everyone uses I would probably just retire.