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08-13-2007, 02:15 PM

For the record BoyAlley loves chocolate pudding.

Carry on

PS Josh is a tool who should seriously consider his position in life and his moral standings.
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08-13-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

Shouldn't you be off "borrowing" someone's money somewhere or something?

Your thoughts, ideas, and opinions are worth about as much as Fleshlight's TOS.

Again BoyAlley if you want to discuss it hit me up directly. I have NEVER stolen anything from anyone. You think I "stole" 750.00 from him and then bought him a 1200.00 HD camera. Do you REALLY think he would still have me selling for him and doing other business if I had stolen? Use your brain.
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08-13-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by BradM

For the record BoyAlley loves chocolate pudding.

People in this industry aren't so retarded that you can feed them a spoonful of horse shit and expect them to reply "oh thank you that chocolate pudding is very good may I please have some more".

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08-13-2007, 02:18 PM

u = joke....
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08-13-2007, 02:19 PM

I predict 15 pages by midnight.

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08-13-2007, 02:21 PM

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I predict 15 pages by midnight.

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#107

08-13-2007, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

Why do they always complain about you posting it on a forum? The forum is a great place to bring it to the attention of others for discussion and awareness, or when you don't get a reply to an email.

I think forums are a great place to discuss issues like this too - it makes shit happen instead of getting a blowoff email reply.
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08-13-2007, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Jace

Alex, you are one wise mofo....one of the few people on gfy that I always read their posts

you are 100% right, companies like fleshlight should not be considered in the adult industry, they have no cards in the game

It's always the question: without porn, what exactly would the dating sites and fleshlight style sites use to promote their products? It's not like people are going to google and typing "I want a rubber thing to stick over my dick while I whack off". People aren't going to want to look at a gallery of 20 different fleshlights. A dating description without a way to contact the person is extremely useless.

Where do you think that Fleshlight and AFF would be without porn traffic and the traffic generated from stolen porn product? AFF would be much smaller, and fleshlight would be nothing more than a demo unit on the owner's dick.

If Fleshlight is going to have a policy of accepting torrent traffic, then the adult companies need to have a "no fleshlight" policy.
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08-13-2007, 02:21 PM

FleshJosh... This is a clear violation of your Terms of Service as it currently exists...

The following types of subject matter are considered unacceptable and will not be permitted on an Affiliate site:
Child pornography and/or any depiction of underage participants (including participants who are dressed and depicted as underage, even though the participants are clearly adults);
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Incorporating any materials which infringe or assist others to infringe on any copyright, trademarks, patents, or other intellectual property rights;
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Any website that "takes over" a user's web browser, installing software without the user's permission or not releasing the browser to the user's control (multiple popups) on exit from any page within the affiliate site. (If leaving your site causes a user to reboot their system to close the browser, your site will not be accepted.);
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08-13-2007, 02:23 PM

ALL torrent sites have unlincesed content.

Any affiliate program that accepts torrent sites are no good on my book.

I'm just a newbie.
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08-13-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Voodoo

FleshJosh... This is a clear violation of your Terms of Service as it currently exists...

Incorporating any materials which infringe or ASSIST others to infringe on any copyright, trademarks, patents, or other intellectual property rights;

Fleshlights own business model violates their TOS!! Ha ha!

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08-13-2007, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Again Will goes off half cocked without even fucking knowing what he is talking about. It is 100% a torrent site, and THERE IS adult content on it, just not in the public view from the main site. Do you even know who azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ is? http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=azu...p=mss&ei=UTF-8

Not surprising you dont realize Torrents are used for good not just evil.

try defend torrent sites until you are blue in the face. I looked at the link you posted: http://www.vuze.com i see tv shows no porn. I looked around again I see no porn.

If it is 100% torrent site and user submitted content I find it hard to believe that everyone that submitts to it does so with content they own 100%.

you are the biggest waste of time on here i cant wait till the day you get banned.

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08-13-2007, 02:26 PM

Oh, and also in your TOS:
You agree to fully comply with 18 USC 2257 et seq, ("2257") including but not limited to its notice and recordkeeping requirements, as a condition precedent to your participation in this affiliate program or providing any traffic or links from your web pages to our site. You agree to immediately provide to us as requested, in our sole discretion, record keeping documents and data needed for us to comply with 2257 or for us to audit, from time to time, your compliance with such statute.

None of those torrent sites have valid 2257 records.

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08-13-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by SWorldMegan

Fleshlights own business model violates their TOS!! Ha ha!

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08-13-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by will76

Does anyone like sticky ?

I'd start a poll but I'd bet no one gives a shit about him enough to bother to vote.
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08-13-2007, 02:31 PM

hey
why don't we discuss how fleshlight sales are manually added to the webmasters accounts?
id like to know how that is working...
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08-13-2007, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Again BoyAlley if you want to discuss it hit me up directly. I have NEVER stolen anything from anyone. You think I "stole" 750.00 from him and then bought him a 1200.00 HD camera. Do you REALLY think he would still have me selling for him and doing other business if I had stolen? Use your brain.

STFU! you are worst then heart burn and a migrain combined.

YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.

Now shut the fuck up you worthless thief.

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08-13-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Trax

hey
why don't we discuss how fleshlight sales are manually added to the webmasters accounts?
id like to know how that is working...

just recently he said they aren't doing it that way anymore

when the warehouse marks something as shipped it automatically marks it as a sale in the nats admin
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08-13-2007, 02:36 PM

Here's AFF's Terms:
You are prohibited from submitting an Affiliate Network Application if your site or service(s) are involved in unlawful activity or contain objectionable material including by way of example only: a site or services containing images or content that is in any way unlawful, harmful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, or otherwise legally prohibited, a site or services facilitating illegal activity or considered obscene or harmful to minors or not in compliance with applicable laws; a site or services promoting fraudulent, unlawful, misleading, or unfair business practices, a site or services promoting violence, a site or services that has sent unsolicited commercial e-mail within the past four years, a site or services that intends on sending unsolicited commercial e-mail at any time during the term of this agreement, a site or services promoting discrimination based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, or age, a site or services incorporating any materials which infringe or assist others to infringe on any copyright, trademarks, patents, or other intellectual property rights, or a site or services involving unfair competition (collectively "Content Restrictions").

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08-13-2007, 02:38 PM

this is the same company that won't let you bid on their trademark fleshlight terms for PPC yet they accept torrent traffic from their affiliates that steal from others. bunch of greedy fuckers over at fleshlight. never would promote such a company and hope others won't support them either. keep bumping this thread.
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08-13-2007, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by dav3

I predict 15 pages by midnight.

I posted twice on the first page....SIG FOR SALE

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08-13-2007, 02:42 PM

For the record the site I mentioned in http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=760026 has some Bestiality. Hope AFF knows.

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08-13-2007, 02:43 PM

I think it's about time the adult industry started boycotting Fleshlight and Dating sites that accept torrent traffic, As as far as not posting on forums about stolen content and cp I find on torrent sites with with your ads next to it, GET FUCKED!! Your not being professional about it, so why should we? Not only will I post about it, I'll screen shot it for everyone to see.

Fuck Fleshlight, from now on I wont even promote sponsors that promote you
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08-13-2007, 02:46 PM

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08-13-2007, 02:52 PM

Lots of love in this thread today...

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08-13-2007, 03:10 PM

How is the discussion with the rapists going? Have you come to mutually beneficial terms to continue to do business with the rapists? We'd love to hear what kind of deal you managed to tweak?

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08-13-2007, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Humpy Leftnut

How is the discussion with the rapists going? Have you come to mutually beneficial terms to continue to do business with the rapists? We'd love to hear what kind of deal you managed to tweak?

not sure what discussion needs to happen really.

if i really wanted to i can go there once a week, find some content from someones program that will bitch like hell on the boards. if you take down one, another goes up. until they remove all their ads from sites that rob from people to make money, and terminate accounts, theres no discussion to be had.

what needs to happen is to not take traffic from those thief sites. bottom line.

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08-13-2007, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by will76

STFU! you are worst then heart burn and a migrain combined.

YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.

Now shut the fuck up you worthless thief.

You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.
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08-13-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.

Why? So you can just lie on ICQ/phone/Skype/whatever? Why bother, we all have you painted.
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08-13-2007, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.

What are you going to do sue him? Fuck off sticky. Go steal some more shit.
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08-13-2007, 03:23 PM

If memory serves me correctly the owner of fleshlight is a former cop.

You would think he and the company would be looking out for the industry that helps pay it's bills, put food on the table, etc.

Josh I don't know you - you seem new or whatever - but def. defensive.. If it was me I would just change my TOS, make a statement, etc.

Megan, yes most distributors (the big boys and girls) do toys and dvd's - I know them all, or most...

See the owner, forget his name - used to allow us all to sell fleshlights yrs back- we all sold tons of them. Then all of a sudden he pretty much cut everyone off, most all distributors, wholesalers, etc. Man he pissed a ton of ppl off.

His choice of course but it did suck forsure.....

Get your marketing and pr stuff straight - be ohnest and upfront and you shouldn't have many more issues....

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08-13-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by BradM

Why? So you can just lie on ICQ/phone/Skype/whatever? Why bother, we all have you painted.

Take your own advice.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=drama

Originally posted by BradM

Some of you spend all day here posting about other people.

Personally I could give a shit about what goes on here. Why not take that energy and submit some galleries, or hit up some clients - or better yet follow through on some stuff.

No one cares, its YOU and the sigwhores.
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08-13-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking

If memory serves me correctly the owner of fleshlight is a former cop.

You would think he and the company would be looking out for the industry that helps pay it's bills, put food on the table, etc.

Josh I don't know you - you seem new or whatever - but def. defensive.. If it was me I would just change my TOS, make a statement, etc.

Megan, yes most distributors (the big boys and girls) do toys and dvd's - I know them all, or most...

See the owner, forget his name - used to allow us all to sell fleshlights yrs back- we all sold tons of them. Then all of a sudden he pretty much cut everyone off, most all distributors, wholesalers, etc. Man he pissed a ton of ppl off.

His choice of course but it did suck forsure.....

Get your marketing and pr stuff straight - be ohnest and upfront and you shouldn't have many more issues....

i'm a former cop.

the owners name is steve.

thats all i know.
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08-13-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking

If memory serves me correctly the owner of fleshlight is a former cop.

You would think he and the company would be looking out for the industry that helps pay it's bills, put food on the table, etc.

Josh I don't know you - you seem new or whatever - but def. defensive.. If it was me I would just change my TOS, make a statement, etc.

Megan, yes most distributors (the big boys and girls) do toys and dvd's - I know them all, or most...

See the owner, forget his name - used to allow us all to sell fleshlights yrs back- we all sold tons of them. Then all of a sudden he pretty much cut everyone off, most all distributors, wholesalers, etc. Man he pissed a ton of ppl off.

His choice of course but it did suck forsure.....

Get your marketing and pr stuff straight - be ohnest and upfront and you shouldn't have many more issues....

Their TOS already state that they don't allow this activity. They just went against it. Same with AFF.

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08-13-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by A1R3K

i'm a former cop.

the owners name is steve.

thats all i know.

Steve - mabey that was it - it was many yrs ago....

When they first came out - they didn't mind everyone, stores, etc. selling there products but then bamm, no more.

I think I talked to him once and my biz partner - well he was a big asshole on the phone - mabey things have changed now - but hard to forget sometimes.

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08-13-2007, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Take your own advice.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=drama

Sorry I am confused about how this relates to you being a thief who was caught, exposed and painted.

There's no connection. Keep trying to spin it son, you're done in the industry.
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08-13-2007, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by BradM

Sorry I am confused about how this relates to you being a thief who was caught, exposed and painted.

There's no connection. Keep trying to spin it son, you're done in the industry.

Done ahh damn... Except I didnt steal a thing, and if you think I would ruin myself over 750.00 then you sir are a fool. Use your brain.
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08-13-2007, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Done ahh damn... Except I didnt steal a thing, and if you think I would ruin myself over 750.00 then you sir are a fool. Use your brain.

I am using it.
A) You're an idiot. You've proven it many times by being the only person on a side of the fence during an argument. You'll sometimes argue an orange being red in color and defend it until the thread dies simply because you misunderstood the question to begin with but can't admit being wrong. This makes you stupid, and a bit crazy.
B) You continually lie and change your story about the asian content bullshit
C) No one likes you
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08-13-2007, 03:33 PM

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08-13-2007, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by BradM

I am using it.
A) You're an idiot. You've proven it many times by being the only person on a side of the fence during an argument. You'll sometimes argue an orange being red in color and defend it until the thread dies simply because you misunderstood the question to begin with but can't admit being wrong. This makes you stupid, and a bit crazy.
B) You continually lie and change your story about the asian content bullshit
C) No one likes you

Oh noes BradM doesnt like me... I havent changed my "story" once. Funny Brad has no problem with me, and has committed to doing MORE business with me after all this. HE was the one that THOUGHT he was ripped off. Then he found out the REAL story, and recanted. Not good enough for BradM though he knows more than the guy that started the drama. Jesus fucking Christ. Im done with this thread. And Gfy for the night. Have work to do. Enjoy ruining the axles on your bandwagons....
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08-13-2007, 03:37 PM

so many people in this thread.. i dont know where to start

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08-13-2007, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Oh noes BradM doesnt like me... I havent changed my "story" once. Funny Brad has no problem with me, and has committed to doing MORE business with me after all this. HE was the one that THOUGHT he was ripped off. Then he found out the REAL story, and recanted. Not good enough for BradM though he knows more than the guy that started the drama. Jesus fucking Christ. Im done with this thread. And Gfy for the night. Have work to do. Enjoy ruining the axles on your bandwagons....

ive been playing halo2 today so im going to use a halo term

bradm pawns nubs

that shit killed me.. i havent heard shit like that since aol days

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08-13-2007, 04:02 PM

This is even worse for Fleshlight than Ramos's unfortunate fiasco.

It's a case study in how not to handle webmasters.

Even though I absolutely disapprove of AFF's support of torrents, at least Lars knows how to take it on the chin without creating more enemies with every post because of personal issues.

I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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08-13-2007, 04:02 PM

Dude, halo2? Fuck... I got that game for free with my sound card. Played it for 2 minutes, then promptly uninstalled that shit and threw the cd as far as I could in the woods behind my house. Even the squirrels ran away from it.

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08-13-2007, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.

it is a waste of time to copy and paste to you, sorry i have better things to do then to talk to you.

and what part of this is false?

YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.

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08-13-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by BradM

Sorry I am confused about how this relates to you being a thief who was caught, exposed and painted.

There's no connection. Keep trying to spin it son, you're done in the industry.

LOL done? wtf?? wouldn't you have to be started before you can be done

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08-13-2007, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf

This is even worse for Fleshlight than Ramos's unfortunate fiasco.

It's a case study in how not to handle webmasters.

Even though I absolutely disapprove of AFF's support of torrents, at least Lars knows how to take it on the chin without creating more enemies with every post because of personal issues.

No shit. I think Josh has ended up turning this into a PR nightmare.

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08-13-2007, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Oh noes BradM doesnt like me... I havent changed my "story" once. Funny Brad has no problem with me, and has committed to doing MORE business with me after all this. HE was the one that THOUGHT he was ripped off. Then he found out the REAL story, and recanted. Not good enough for BradM though he knows more than the guy that started the drama. Jesus fucking Christ. Im done with this thread. And Gfy for the night. Have work to do. Enjoy ruining the axles on your bandwagons....

like usual you wont reply to this:

YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.

other then trying to spin it.

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08-13-2007, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by EdgeXXX

No shit. I think Josh has ended up turning this into a PR nightmare.

Par for the course.
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08-13-2007, 04:16 PM

Fleshlight why did you not cancel my account when I spammed 3.4 mill emails with my code?
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