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CDSmith 08-11-2007 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX (Post 12915316)
What scares me is the fact that you knew exactly where to find these pics...
Bingo. He actually went looking for them, posts them at every opportunity, talks about them constantly.


It's creepy.

Rochard 08-11-2007 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 12914991)
seriously... that is some fucked up racist shit.
Nice.

I'm guessing your not the one getting phone calls at 3am every time the bombing starts in Lebanon. You see, my wife is Lebanese - as is her entire extended family (half of which live in Lebanon). I married into a family who is half Muslim. So keep your racist comments to yourself.

I don't believe that we need to "kill all of the rag heads". For some reason another race / culture / and or religion seems to be hell bent on our destruction. We need to put an end to this. They attacked us and we invaded two countries, took over their governments, and we are still occupying their countries today. What happens when the Muslim extremists attack us again? Will the US invade a third and fourth country? At this point we will have invaded most of the Middle East.

I think war should be avoided at all costs. I'm a third generation US Marine. I lost my grand father in the South Pacific fighting Japan, and my father died in Vietnam when I was nine months old. I don't want anyone to go through loosing a parent like I did.

These Muslim extemists killed three thousand innocent Americans. And it will happen again. Perhaps next time we should just take the high road and say "too bad".

Shakula 08-11-2007 09:35 PM
Comments like SOS quoted from rochard makes me understand why playboy ditched him. What a stupid idiot. Probably comes from a uneducated family. Dont fool yourself, its in your genes.

sonofsam 08-11-2007 09:36 PM
You think there are more terrorists now, or before?

You think the USA accomplished anything in the middle east?

If anything, they CREATED more terrorists, because of all the people who have lost family, when they were just innocent people killed in the crossfire.

attacking the entire middle east is a retarded solution.

BlondeBecks 08-11-2007 09:36 PM
Back to the original subject of this thread.....Rochard. I have met him and he's done quite a bit for me......he's one of the nicest people that I have met in the industry and has gone out of his was for me. He also has has integrity and has always done what he has said he's going to do when he says he's going to do it.

sonofsam 08-11-2007 09:37 PM
btw... 3000 americans died...

how many innocent civilians have died in the middle east during this "war on terror" ?

sonofsam 08-11-2007 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BlondeBecks (Post 12915342)
Back to the original subject of this thread.....Rochard. I have met him and he's done quite a bit for me......he's one of the nicest people that I have met in the industry and has gone out of his was for me. He also has has integrity and has always done what he has said he's going to do when he says he's going to do it.
You're an idiot, so just shut up.

Way to have an opinion and spine, moron.

You completely avoided what the thread was about to begin with.

Porn Farmer 08-11-2007 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12915327)
Nice.

I'm guessing your not the one getting phone calls at 3am every time the bombing starts in Lebanon. You see, my wife is Lebanese - as is her entire extended family (half of which live in Lebanon). I married into a family who is half Muslim. So keep your racist comments to yourself.

I don't believe that we need to "kill all of the rag heads". For some reason another race / culture / and or religion seems to be hell bent on our destruction. We need to put an end to this. They attacked us and we invaded two countries, took over their governments, and we are still occupying their countries today. What happens when the Muslim extremists attack us again? Will the US invade a third and fourth country? At this point we will have invaded most of the Middle East.

I think war should be avoided at all costs. I'm a third generation US Marine. I lost my grand father in the South Pacific fighting Japan, and my father died in Vietnam when I was nine months old. I don't want anyone to go through loosing a parent like I did.

These Muslim extemists killed three thousand innocent Americans. And it will happen again. Perhaps next time we should just take the high road and say "too bad".
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1947-48: U.S. backs Palestine partition plan. Israel established. U.S. declines to press Israel to allow expelled Palestinians to return.

1949: CIA backs military coup deposing elected government of Syria.

1953: CIA helps overthrow the democratically‑elected Mossadeq government in Iran (which had nationalized the British oil company) leading to a quarter‑century of repressive and dictatorial rule by the Shah, Mohammed Reza Pahlevi.

1956: U.S. cuts off promised funding for Aswan Dam in Egypt after Egypt receives Eastern bloc arms.

1956: Israel, Britain, and France invade Egypt. U.S. does not support invasion, but the involvement of its NATO allies severely diminishes Washington's reputation in the region.

1958: U.S. troops land in Lebanon to preserve "stability".

early 1960s: U.S. unsuccessfully attempts assassination of Iraqi leader, Abdul Karim Qassim.

1963: U.S. supports coup by Iraqi Ba'ath party (soon to be headed by Saddam Hussein) and reportedly gives them names of communists to murder, which they do with vigor.

1967‑: U.S. blocks any effort in the Security Council to enforce SC Resolution 242, calling for Israeli withdrawal from territories occupied in the 1967 war.

1970: Civil war between Jordan and PLO. Israel and U.S. discuss intervening on side of Jordan if Syria backs PLO.

1972: U.S. blocks Egyptian leader Anwar Sadat's efforts to reach a peace agreement with Israel.

1973: Airlifted U.S. military aid enables Israel to turn the tide in war with Syria and Egypt.

1973‑75: U.S. supports Kurdish rebels in Iraq. When Iran reaches an agreement with Iraq in 1975 and seals the border, Iraq slaughters Kurds and U.S. denies them refuge. Kissinger secretly explains that "covert action should not be confused with missionary work."

1975: U.S. vetoes Security Council resolution condemning Israeli attacks on Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon.

1978‑79: Iranians begin demonstrations against the Shah. U.S. tells Shah it supports him "without reservation" and urges him to act forcefully. Until the last minute, U.S. tries to organize military coup to save the Shah, but to no avail.

1979‑88: U.S. begins covert aid to Mujahideen in Afghanistan six months before Soviet invasion in Dec. 1979.7 Over the next decade U.S. provides training and more than $3 billion in arms and aid.

1980‑88: Iran‑Iraq war. When Iraq invades Iran, the U.S. opposes any Security Council action to condemn the invasion. U.S. soon removes Iraq from its list of nations supporting terrorism and allows U.S. arms to be transferred to Iraq. At the same time, U.S. lets Israel provide arms to Iran and in 1985 U.S. provides arms directly (though secretly) to Iran. U.S. provides intelligence information to Iraq. Iraq uses chemical weapons in 1984; U.S. restores diplomatic relations with Iraq. 1987 U.S. sends its navy into the Persian Gulf, taking Iraq's side; an overly‑aggressive U.S. ship shoots down an Iranian civilian airliner, killing 290.

1981, 1986: U.S. holds military maneuvers off the coast of Libya in waters claimed by Libya with the clear purpose of provoking Qaddafi. In 1981, a Libyan plane fires a missile and U.S. shoots down two Libyan planes. In 1986, Libya fires missiles that land far from any target and U.S. attacks Libyan patrol boats, killing 72, and shore installations. When a bomb goes off in a Berlin nightclub, killing three, the U.S. charges that Qaddafi was behind it (possibly true) and conducts major bombing raids in Libya, killing dozens of civilians, including Qaddafi's adopted daughter.

1982: U.S. gives "green light" to Israeli invasion of Lebanon,9 killing some 17 thousand civilians.10 U.S. chooses not to invoke its laws prohibiting Israeli use of U.S. weapons except in self‑defense. U.S. vetoes several Security Council resolutions condemning the invasion.

1983: U.S. troops sent to Lebanon as part of a multinational peacekeeping force; intervene on one side of a civil war, including bombardment by USS New Jersey. Withdraw after suicide bombing of marine barracks.

1984: U.S.‑backed rebels in Afghanistan fire on civilian airliner.

1987-92: U.S. arms used by Israel to repress first Palestinian Intifada. U.S. vetoes five Security Council resolution condemning Israeli repression.

1988: Saddam Hussein kills many thousands of his own Kurdish population and uses chemical weapons against them. The U.S. increases its economic ties to Iraq.

1988: U.S. vetoes 3 Security Council resolutions condemning continuing Israeli occupation of and repression in Lebanon.

1990‑91: U.S. rejects any diplomatic settlement of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait (for example, rebuffing any attempt to link the two regional occupations, of Kuwait and of Palestine). U.S. leads international coalition in war against Iraq. Civilian infrastructure targeted.12 To promote "stability" U.S. refuses to aid post‑war uprisings by Shi'ites in the south and Kurds in the north, denying the rebels access to captured Iraqi weapons and refusing to prohibit Iraqi helicopter flights.

1991‑: Devastating economic sanctions are imposed on Iraq. U.S. and Britain block all attempts to lift them. Hundreds of thousands die. Though Security Council had stated that sanctions were to be lifted once Saddam Hussein's programs to develop weapons of mass destruction were ended, Washington makes it known that the sanctions would remain as long as Saddam remains in power. Sanctions in fact strengthen Saddam's position. Asked about the horrendous human consequences of the sanctions, Madeleine Albright (U.S. ambassador to the UN and later Secretary of State) declares that "the price is worth it."

1991-: U.S. forces permanently based in Saudi Arabia.

1993‑: U.S. launches missile attack on Iraq, claiming self‑defense against an alleged assassination attempt on former president Bush two months earlier.

1998: U.S. and U.K. bomb Iraq over the issue of weapons inspections, even though Security Council is just then meeting to discuss the matter.

1998: U.S. destroys factory producing half of Sudan's pharmaceutical supply, claiming retaliation for attacks on U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya and that factory was involved in chemical warfare. Evidence for the chemical warfare charge widely disputed.

2000-: Israel uses U.S. arms in attempt to crush Palestinian uprising, killing hundreds of civilians.
Blame your own foreign policy over the last 60 years for 9/11 and for your troubles with muslim extremists. Every single act of terrorism against America, its interests, or its citizens you have brought upon yourselves. The chickens simply came home to roost.

Accept responsibility for the actions and policies of your government.

Rochard 08-11-2007 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 12915341)
You think there are more terrorists now, or before?

You think the USA accomplished anything in the middle east?

If anything, they CREATED more terrorists, because of all the people who have lost family, when they were just innocent people killed in the crossfire.

attacking the entire middle east is a retarded solution.
And you have a better solution?

What should we do? Ignore them and hope they'll go away? Send them aid? Let them attack us again?

And why don't you tell my wife your sorry for calling me a racist?

Shakula 08-11-2007 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12915327)
Nice.

I'm guessing your not the one getting phone calls at 3am every time the bombing starts in Lebanon. You see, my wife is Lebanese - as is her entire extended family (half of which live in Lebanon). I married into a family who is half Muslim. So keep your racist comments to yourself.

I don't believe that we need to "kill all of the rag heads". For some reason another race / culture / and or religion seems to be hell bent on our destruction. We need to put an end to this. They attacked us and we invaded two countries, took over their governments, and we are still occupying their countries today. What happens when the Muslim extremists attack us again? Will the US invade a third and fourth country? At this point we will have invaded most of the Middle East.

I think war should be avoided at all costs. I'm a third generation US Marine. I lost my grand father in the South Pacific fighting Japan, and my father died in Vietnam when I was nine months old. I don't want anyone to go through loosing a parent like I did.

These Muslim extemists killed three thousand innocent Americans. And it will happen again. Perhaps next time we should just take the high road and say "too bad".
Thank you, this post was really needed. Why?

Like you said, you come from a military family, your family has been canonfooder and nothing else. Let the bigger minds think whats best for the world and follow our orders. Sit down and wait until further notice.

sonofsam 08-11-2007 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12915359)
And you have a better solution?

What should we do? Ignore them and hope they'll go away? Send them aid? Let them attack us again?

And why don't you tell my wife your sorry for calling me a racist?
Nice arguement.

Yah... hey everybody "i'm not racist... i knew a black guy in highschool"

Did i say i have a solution?? but i know that attacking the entire middle east because of what some extremists did, is not the right answer... You condone the murder of innocent people?

Now whos the terrorist?

Shakula 08-11-2007 09:53 PM
Give rochard a fairly simple mathematic problem and he wont be able to solve it, then why would someone think that he knows what to do about the middle east? :)

CDSmith 08-11-2007 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 12915345)
You're an idiot, so just shut up.

Way to have an opinion and spine, moron.
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Rochard 08-11-2007 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 12915366)
Nice arguement.

Yah... hey everybody "i'm not racist... i knew a black guy in highschool"

Did i say i have a solution?? but i know that attacking the entire middle east because of what some extremists did, is not the right answer... You condone the murder of innocent people?

Now whos the terrorist?
I didn't "know a Muslim in high school". I married into a family full of them. Big difference there skippy.

You know that attacking the entire middle east is not the answer. We've already invaded two countries. You know they are going to strike out at us again. What happens next time? If the US invades another country in the middle east, well, then we pretty will have invaded half of the middle east.

Do I condone the murder of innocent people? Let me repeat myself: I'm a third generation US Marine. I fully understand the difference between "innocent people" and "a formally trained military fighting force". The only possilbe solution here is to remove the governments that allow this to take place. Will innocent people get killed? Yes. We didn't fire the first shot; The first shot was fired on 9/11.

I guess my four year degree in Poly Science doesn't qualify me to speak on this subject. I mean, I know more about the Turkish / Ottoman empire than you know about porn. What does the Turkish / Ottoman empire have to do with this? Read your history son.

I have no burning desire to spend my night on GFY debating this subject in a thread that calls me an asshole. I have more important things to do.

Thanks for playing along everyone. Good night.

CDSmith 08-11-2007 10:09 PM
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EdgeXXX 08-12-2007 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 12915352)
Blame your own foreign policy over the last 60 years for 9/11 and for your troubles with muslim extremists. Every single act of terrorism against America, its interests, or its citizens you have brought upon yourselves. The chickens simply came home to roost.

Accept responsibility for the actions and policies of your government.
Wow... way to be an ignorant tool :thumbsup :disgust

If you're going to post/quote "facts" like those, why don't you go ahead and posts the corresponding events that set those actions into motion? Probably because they don't suit your version of the facts. Here let me help you get started with a real easy one:

Propaganda: "1991-: U.S. forces permanently based in Saudi Arabia."

Reality: "U.S. forces flooded into Saudi Arabia in fall 1990, after Hussein's troops invaded Kuwait with intentions of continuing its push into Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia welcomed the troops, and its own forces fought to push Iraq out of Kuwait. After the war, only about 4,000 uniformed Americans--mostly Air Force members--stayed in Saudi Arabia as part of the no-fly patrol operations, and as a check against further Iraqi offensives. In 2003, the few remaining uniformed Americans left Saudi Arabia."


In other words, your "source" is either a little outdated or completely full of shit. Hmmm...

jimthefiend 08-12-2007 09:24 AM
Reminder: Stinkyfuckhead is a thief.

Kram 08-12-2007 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jimthefiend (Post 12916738)
Damn I was just about to post that ...

stillsexy 08-12-2007 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jonesonyou (Post 12915090)
Bukkake ninjas for live ..... nukka. !!!!
yo...your zignature pic is damn entertaining...

CaptainHowdy 08-12-2007 10:51 AM
I feel dethroned...

tony286 08-12-2007 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX (Post 12916703)
Wow... way to be an ignorant tool :thumbsup :disgust

If you're going to post/quote "facts" like those, why don't you go ahead and posts the corresponding events that set those actions into motion? Probably because they don't suit your version of the facts. Here let me help you get started with a real easy one:

Propaganda: "1991-: U.S. forces permanently based in Saudi Arabia."

Reality: "U.S. forces flooded into Saudi Arabia in fall 1990, after Hussein's troops invaded Kuwait with intentions of continuing its push into Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia welcomed the troops, and its own forces fought to push Iraq out of Kuwait. After the war, only about 4,000 uniformed Americans--mostly Air Force members--stayed in Saudi Arabia as part of the no-fly patrol operations, and as a check against further Iraqi offensives. In 2003, the few remaining uniformed Americans left Saudi Arabia."


In other words, your "source" is either a little outdated or completely full of shit. Hmmm...
Actually you might want to do more research.Your a little off. Saddam told the USA he was going into Kuwait and why he was doing that.Since they basically didnt agree or disagree, he took that for approval.

CDSmith 08-12-2007 10:56 AM
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donnie 08-12-2007 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12915327)
Nice.

I'm guessing your not the one getting phone calls at 3am every time the bombing starts in Lebanon. You see, my wife is Lebanese - as is her entire extended family (half of which live in Lebanon). I married into a family who is half Muslim. So keep your racist comments to yourself.

I don't believe that we need to "kill all of the rag heads". For some reason another race / culture / and or religion seems to be hell bent on our destruction. We need to put an end to this. They attacked us and we invaded two countries, took over their governments, and we are still occupying their countries today. What happens when the Muslim extremists attack us again? Will the US invade a third and fourth country? At this point we will have invaded most of the Middle East.

I think war should be avoided at all costs. I'm a third generation US Marine. I lost my grand father in the South Pacific fighting Japan, and my father died in Vietnam when I was nine months old. I don't want anyone to go through loosing a parent like I did.

These Muslim extemists killed three thousand innocent Americans. And it will happen again. Perhaps next time we should just take the high road and say "too bad".
I actually feel sorry for you Americans. Those you call terrorists are at least fighting against oppression. What are YOU fighting for??? Why did your father died in Vietnam? Why are Americans dyeing in Iraq and Afghanistan today?? You fight and die for people that constantly lie to you, that oppress you, who tell you what to think and who to hate. Your father died because he was told communism is bad. Americans are dyeing today because you are told Muslims are your enemy. Who will you hate and fight against tomorrow?

You hate Muslims because they attacked you in 2001? YOU HAVE BEEN ATTACKING THEM FOR 50 FUCKING YEARS!!!

pocketkangaroo 08-12-2007 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12915327)
These Muslim extemists killed three thousand innocent Americans. And it will happen again. Perhaps next time we should just take the high road and say "too bad".
And some rising water killed 1800 people, DUIs will kill well over 10,000 people this year, and lack of preventetive medicine will kill hundreds of thousands. So why no outrage over that stuff? It just seems odd to me that people like you value the lives of those 3000 over the hundreds of thousands of other lives lost because of our inept government.

And on the same note, why are you equating everyone in the middle east to a terrorist because of what a few people did? Would that not be like equating the US military, Republican party and everyone in the state of Kansas to being a terrorist because Timothy McVeigh was?

OG LennyT 08-12-2007 12:41 PM
I enjoyed fighting for the very freedoms expressed in this thread. All idiots should be able to speak freely about their opinions.

Oh wait, you're Canadian... well, we fight for you too since you guys can't fight for yourselves.

God Bless America

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tucker 08-12-2007 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 12914970)
I have my differences with losers like baddog etc.... but that's all fun and games... rochard is a fucking idiot on a WHOLE new level... him and his little bitch, cock reciever stickyfingerz(btw.. what the fuck kind of name is stickyfingerz for a 30+ year old man... seriously :1orglaugh)
Rochard is a veteran of our nations military with real life experience in warfare. If you stop and THINK (new concept) about what he wrote you will see that he makes sense. I will break it down in simple terms; if you squash it, whatever IT is, it doesn't have a chance to grow and become a thing.

There was no book on the shelf that said if 3000 US citizens are killed in a day by X turn to page 1 and follow the instructions. We were caught off guard, period. We need to be vigilant to ensure or at the very least mitigate the chance of a 9/11 happening again.

BTW - GFY does not give away XBox's anymore for the most posts in a thread so you will get nothing from this brilliant attempt at showing your lack of knowledge.

sonofsam 08-12-2007 12:43 PM
We don't need to fight... we don't trample over other countries like we own the world.

»Rob Content« 08-12-2007 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 12917416)
We don't need to fight... we don't trample over other countries like we own the world.
When you say WE you do understand how Canada was created right? How many people died to create the country you call home? How many natives were killed, and tribes killed off so you could call this home?

»Rob Content« 08-12-2007 12:48 PM
Also Sam the last time I checked a lot of Canadians were dieing in the middle east as well. What steps have you taken to stand against this. How many letters have you written to your government? How many rallies have you gone to? What have you done to try and change the stance of your own country? Besides posting on GFY?

stickyfingerz 08-12-2007 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jimthefiend (Post 12916738)
Hey Jim still need that 50.00 you were asking me to loan you about a month ago? :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 08-12-2007 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12917339)
And some rising water killed 1800 people, DUIs will kill well over 10,000 people this year, and lack of preventetive medicine will kill hundreds of thousands. So why no outrage over that stuff? It just seems odd to me that people like you value the lives of those 3000 over the hundreds of thousands of other lives lost because of our inept government.

And on the same note, why are you equating everyone in the middle east to a terrorist because of what a few people did? Would that not be like equating the US military, Republican party and everyone in the state of Kansas to being a terrorist because Timothy McVeigh was?
Hmm cause 3000 deaths were murder, and the others were caused by nature? :uhoh

»Rob Content« 08-12-2007 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12917457)
Hey Jim still need that 50.00 you were asking me to loan you about a month ago? :1orglaugh
Why didn't you load it to him from that 1200 you forgot to tell your boss about until he found out about it?

Rochard 08-12-2007 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 12917244)
I actually feel sorry for you Americans. Those you call terrorists are at least fighting against oppression. What are YOU fighting for??? Why did your father died in Vietnam? Why are Americans dyeing in Iraq and Afghanistan today?? You fight and die for people that constantly lie to you, that oppress you, who tell you what to think and who to hate. Your father died because he was told communism is bad. Americans are dyeing today because you are told Muslims are your enemy. Who will you hate and fight against tomorrow?

You hate Muslims because they attacked you in 2001? YOU HAVE BEEN ATTACKING THEM FOR 50 FUCKING YEARS!!!
First off, I don't hate anyone.

Have we really been attacking Muslims for fifty years? So I guess our support of Afghanistan in the 1980s when they were invaded by Russia doesn't count for anything. (Ironically this led to the rise of BinLaden there.) And the fact that we supported Iraq in during it's war with Iran also didn't count.

So what your telling me is no matter what side of the arguement we take, the US is attacking Muslims?

I've never been told that "Muslims are my enemy". In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. We aren't fightin "Mulsims" in general, but rather a small handful of extremeists. Huge difference there.

Rochard 08-12-2007 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12917339)
And some rising water killed 1800 people, DUIs will kill well over 10,000 people this year, and lack of preventetive medicine will kill hundreds of thousands. So why no outrage over that stuff? It just seems odd to me that people like you value the lives of those 3000 over the hundreds of thousands of other lives lost because of our inept government.

And on the same note, why are you equating everyone in the middle east to a terrorist because of what a few people did? Would that not be like equating the US military, Republican party and everyone in the state of Kansas to being a terrorist because Timothy McVeigh was?
Thousand of people die needlessly for various reasons. But if we were to fly a plane into a building in Paris, I'm pretty fucking sure the French would be pissed at us. It's not only the thousands of lives we lost on 9/11, but also the billions of dollars of damage done.

You also said.... "why are you equating everyone in the middle east to a terrorist". Jesus fucking Christ; Read what I said. I'm married to someone who has half of her family living in the Middle East.

georgeyw 08-12-2007 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12915327)
I don't believe that we need to "kill all of the rag heads". For some reason another race / culture / and or religion seems to be hell bent on our destruction. We need to put an end to this. They attacked us and we invaded two countries, took over their governments, and we are still occupying their countries today. What happens when the Muslim extremists attack us again? Will the US invade a third and fourth country? At this point we will have invaded most of the Middle East.
:1orglaugh

Yeah, one day they simply thought to themselves 'hey who can we pick to try out our new steal a plane and fly it into a building training program?'

beemk 08-12-2007 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jimthefiend (Post 12916738)
the funny part is that sticky fingers means someone who steals shit.

sonofsam 08-12-2007 01:01 PM
Rochard: and what does your wife think about your solution of invading the entire middle east?

wheres lebanon again?

pocketkangaroo 08-12-2007 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12917480)
Thousand of people die needlessly for various reasons. But if we were to fly a plane into a building in Paris, I'm pretty fucking sure the French would be pissed at us. It's not only the thousands of lives we lost on 9/11, but also the billions of dollars of damage done.
I'm sure they would be. But why is one case considered more special than the other? Why are they both not fought with equal valor?

tucker 08-12-2007 01:04 PM
Yep...no pattern here...

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20094235/site/newsweek/

Names and nationalities of known suicide bombers in Iraq
1 Degauque, Muriel (female suicide bomber) Belgium
2 Goris, Issam (foiled bomber killed by U.S. forces) Belgium
3 al-Banghali, Abu Dujanah Bengal
4 al-Dhaleai, Wael (Wael Abdul Rahman) Britain
5 al-Masri, Abu Omar Egypt
6 al-Masri, Mahmoud Egypt
7 al-Muhajir, Abu Abdullah Egypt
8 Badjoudj, Abdelhalim France
9 Bazis, Idris France
10 al-Anizi, Ahmed (Abu Ma`az) Iraq
11 al-Ansari, Abu Basir Iraq
12 al-Ansari, Abu Hafs Iraq
13 al-Ansari, Abu Khattab Iraq
14 al-Ansari, Abu Muhammad Iraq
15 al-Ansari, Abu Musab Iraq
16 al-Ansari, Abu Uthman Iraq
17 al-Dulaymi, Widad Jamil Jasim (female suicide bomber) Iraq
18 al-Dulaymi, Abu al-Hur Iraq
19 al-Iraqi, Abu Ayoub Iraq
20 al-Iraqi, Yassin Jarrad Iraq
21 al-Jumayli, Abu Amar Iraq
22 al-Karkuki, Abdullah Iraq
23 al-Kurdi, Abdul Wahhab Iraq
24 al-Kurdi, Barwa Iraq
25 al-Najdi, Abu Umar Iraq
26 al-Shamari, Nusha Mujalli Munayfir
(female suicide bomber) Iraq
27 Marwan Abu Ubeida Iraq
28 Nassim, Fahdal Italy
29 al-Masri, Abu Farid Italy
30 Morchidi, Kamal Italy
31 Ben Amor, Mohammed Italy
32 Khalifa, Mohammed Italy
33 Rihani, Lotfi (Abdel Rahman) Italy
34 Saadi, Fadhal Italy
35 Waddani, Habib (Said) Italy
36 al-Ashqari, Ans Jamal (Abu al-Bara al-Urduni) Jordan
37 al-Banna, Raed Mansoor (Abu Radwan al-Urduni) Jordan
38 al-Urduni, Abu Sulaiman Jordan
39 Jaradad, Amer Qasim Jordan
40 al-Anizi, Rawaf Kuwait
41 al-Ajami, Khaled (Abu Al-Zubayr al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait
42 al-Hajari, Mansoor (Abu-Wadha al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait
43 al-Shamari, Abd-al-Aziz (Abu-Ahmad al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait
44 al-Subay'i, Nayif Salih (Abu-Salih al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait
45 al-Utaybi, Abdel Rahman Bin-Shuja (Abu-Awf al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait
46 Said al-Hajari (Abu-Hamza al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait
47 Khalifa, Muhammad Lebanon
48 al-Libi, Abu Abdullal Libya
49 al-Libi, Abu Bara Libya
50 al-Zayidi, Khaled Libya
51 al-Maghribi, Abu Osama Morocco
52 al-Bahili, Naser Bin Fahd (Abu Fahd) Saudi Arabia
53 al-Baqmi, Abu Zayad Saudi Arabia
54 al-Dousari, Abu Abdullah (brother of Abu Harith) Saudi Arabia
55 al-Dousari, Abu Harith Saudi Arabia
56 al-Fahmi, Suluh Salih Saudi Arabia
57 al-Falaj, Adel Bin Ali Saudi Arabia
58 al-Ghamidi, Ahmed Said Ahmed Saudi Arabia
59 al-Ghuninam, Sami Bin Sulieman Saudi Arabia
60 al-Halil, Mohammed Saudi Arabia
61 al-Harbi, Faris Abdullah Saudi Arabia
62 al-Hijazi, Abi Amama Saudi Arabia
63 al-Madani, Abu Zyad Saudi Arabia
64 al-Makki, Abu Hassan Saudi Arabia
65 al-Muhajir, Abu Azzam Saudi Arabia
66 al-Mutayri, Abu al-Walid Saudi Arabia
67 al-Mutayri, Haydarah Saudi Arabia
68 al-Mutayri, Majid Bin Sahnt Saudi Arabia
69 al-Najdi, Abu Abdel Malik Saudi Arabia
70 al-Najdi, Abu Hafs Saudi Arabia
71 al-Najdi, Abu Naim Saudi Arabia
72 al-Najdi, Abu Nur Saudi Arabia
73 al-Najdi, Abu Ubayda (Abdullah) Saudi Arabia
74 al-Qahtani, Abu Ans al-Tahami Saudi Arabia
75 al-Qarni, Abdullah al-Buhayri Saudi Arabia
76 al-Qurayshi, Abdul Rahman Saad (Abu Saad al-Makki) Saudi Arabia
77 al-Qasimi, Abu Qutaybah Saudi Arabia
78 al-Rahimi, Ahmed (or Ahmed al-Fawal Abu Hassan) Saudi Arabia
79 al-Rashid, Abdel Aziz Hamd Saudi Arabia
80 al-Rashid, Yazid Bin Qayid (Abu Juhayman) Saudi Arabia
81 al-Sa`ayri, Abu Mashari Saudi Arabia
82 al-Sarmini, Muhammad Sha`aban Abu Abdullah Saudi Arabia
83 al-Shamali, Abu-Muawiyah Saudi Arabia
84 al-Shamari, Abu Musab Saudi Arabia
85 al-Shamari, Fahd Nayef al-Shulaqi (Abu Amshi al-Shamari) Saudi Arabia
86 al-Shamari, Khaled Bin Khalaf al-Sulayti (Abu Mutib) Saudi Arabia
87 al-Shamari, Majid Salamah al-Haqs Saudi Arabia
88 al-Shamari, Muhammad Bin Rahayman al-Tawmi (Abu Salih) Saudi Arabia
89 al-Shamari, Nawaf bin Mishl Al Khalil Saudi Arabia
90 al-Shamari, Walid al-Asmar Saudi Arabia
91 al-Shayi`a, Ahmed Bin Abdullah Bin Abdel Rahman Saudi Arabia
92 al-Shukri, Salih (Abu Ibrahim al-Makki) Saudi Arabia
93 al-Tamimi, Abdelaziz Bin Saud Bin Mahmoud al-Gharbi al-Mufidi Saudi Arabia
94 al-Usaymi, Nawaf Saudi Arabia
95 al-Usaymi, Safr bin Matr Saudi Arabia
96 al-Utaybi, Azzam Turki al-Muraybadh Saudi Arabia
97 al-Utaybi, Muqrin Majid Shayb Saudi Arabia
98 al-Utaybi, Nashi Dhayb Saudi Arabia
99 al-Zahrani, Fawaz Hussein Saudi Arabia
100 Sayf al-Umma al-Mankuba (not the actual name, real name unknown) Saudi Arabia
101 al-Hijazi, Abu Hurayrah Saudi Arabia
102 al-Janoubi, Abu Dajana Saudi Arabia
103 al-Janoubi, Abu Naser Saudi Arabia
104 al-Tshady, Abu Nasser Saudi Arabia
105 Belgacem, Bellil Spain
106 Afalah, Mohammed Spain
107 Al-Sudani, Hasan Abdel Rahman Sudan
108 al-Abdo, Uruha (Abu Abdel Karim) Syria
109 al-Saraqibi, Warid al-Qudur Syria
110 al-Shami, Abu al-Walid Syria
111 al-Shami, Abu Bara Syria
112 al-Suri, Abu Umayr Syria
113 al-Suri, Abu Khaled or Abu Khaled al-Falastini Syria
114 al-Suri, Abu Muhammad Syria
115 al-Suri, Abu Ubayda Syria
116 al-Tunisi, Abu Samir Tunisia
117 al-Tunisi, Abu Tariq Tunisia
118 al-Tunisi, Ziyad Tunisia
119 al-Turki, Abu Abdullah (Azzad Akanji) Turkey
120 Umar, Abu Muhammad Turkey
121 Yigit, Ebubekir Turkey
122 Adnan, Muhammad Zayd Muhammad (Abu Umayer al-Shami) Unknown
123 al-Allawi, Abdullah Unknown
124 al-Badawi, Abu Umar Unknown
125 al-Jidawi, Abu al-Abbas Unknown
126 al-Maqdisi, Abu Zayd Unknown
127 al-Muhajir, Abu Rihana Unknown
128 al-Muhajir, Abu Thabit Unknown
129 al-Muhajir, Abu Zubayr Unknown
130 al-Nufayi, Abu al-Zubayr Unknown
131 al-Qarnamri, Hamoud `Ayad Unknown
132 al-Rumi, Fahd (Abu `Amshi) Unknown
133 al-Ruwayli, Farhan Mayes Unknown
134 al-Ruwayli, Jamil Battah Unknown
135 al-Shamari, Abdullah al-Zubai Unknown
136 al-Shamari, Abu Abd Unknown
137 al-Yemeni, Abu Jafar Yemen
138 al-Yemeni, Abu Bilal Yemen
139 al-Yemeni, al-Jarrah Yemen

sicone 08-12-2007 01:05 PM
wow.. this lame shit is still going.


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