Site with productivity 270%++ Is it a hotbot? - GoFuckYourself.com

Timothy · 09-07-2002, 01:56 PM

Hi all.
I use UCJ-C v4.1.5 and saw a lot of new trades give me a very high productivity like 2.70 or 2.80 (Noticed that every site has around 2.70-2.80)

Is this a hitbot? Or if it not where can i find the largest cheater list?

Thanks in advance.

abshard · 09-07-2002, 02:01 PM

What is your sites average productivity? One of my site averages 390% productivity. If your site had an average of 100% then maybe you are getting cheated.

Za Ha · 09-07-2002, 02:03 PM

Maybe... especially if its a lot of in hits too...

Steve · 09-07-2002, 02:09 PM

Some guys have extremly productive traffic. Zilla, Shemp, JJJ, Redneckporn, and Tommy come to mind right away. I have seen some outrageous numbers off of their traffic.

If you are unsure of a new trade, I suggest you go to the AWI board and search the domain name under the cheater forum. If it comes up clean, you might feel a little better. These days, I het that forum at least 5 times/week. Better safe than sorry.

ZeNd · 09-07-2002, 02:29 PM

I agree with Steve to a point I mean that all those sites have hitbot traffic to that they pass on to trades.. You think a hitbot cheater would only try to cheat small sites. Som of them do it for a living and are nasty at what they do,

What you need to really do is check your traffic for anon proxies and high proxy traffic .. Not AOL proxies either I mean proxies used as a gateway between the hitbotter and your site. Most bot traffic come from home pc's running while they are at school. So with intense investigation you'll find the sour ce but then you'll be only doing that dailly and not making trades with contacts you know

alot of running around in a circle chasing you tale sucks but that's how it goes.

KNow your traders and you'll be save in the traffic you are getting

Slick · 09-07-2002, 02:36 PM

I have a good way to help ya to determine if it's good traffic if you're unsure about the proxy part of it is to look at the "link tracking" of the trade to see which links are the top clicked links for that trade. I don't know about everyone else, but for me, there's usually a couple of links that are ALWAYS right on top of all of my trades. If you see that the top links clicked on for that trade are links that are outta the way or way down at the bottom of your page, then you could pretty much bet that the site is hitbotting you.

Some people might argue that point saying that it depends on the niche of traffic that you're getting sent into your site, but for the most part, you'll be able to tell if it's real, by the links that the the script is showing are clicked on.

ldinternet · 09-07-2002, 02:40 PM

Isn't necessarily a hitbot - on a few of my sites, there are 6 impressions for every 1 unique.

If you're unsure, contact the owner and see what's going on. If you're not satasified with it, then kill the trade.

Why take a chance?

421Fill · 09-07-2002, 02:42 PM

I just have to say this...

Wow. Real answers on GFY?!?! Damn nice to see real responses.

Steve · 09-07-2002, 02:45 PM

ZeNd - I wasn't saying those guys are passing bot traffic, I was saying that they have VERY productive traffic that eaisly outperforms the traffic coming from my other trades. In fact, they have either a VERY small amount of proxy IPs coming from them, or none at all. 100% clean, legit, good stuff.

Timothy, just upgrade to a newer version of UCJ. This will alert you to any unusual amounts of incoming proxy traffic, and help keep you from getting fucked by cheaters.

ZeNd · 09-07-2002, 02:47 PM

Slick you also might want to mention how leech programs can also click those hidden links on the page. UCJ sends out those clicks to trades ruining you production on your trades side

GFED · 09-07-2002, 02:48 PM

Also check out his unique visitor, to unique click ratio... I usually average about 30%, and had one guy sending me 90-100% once!

ZeNd · 09-07-2002, 02:48 PM

I hear you Steve I wasn't saying you were wrong just adding on a bit more info

Steve · 09-07-2002, 03:15 PM

it's all cool - I just want to make it 100% clear. I would hate to have someone mis-read my statement and think poorly of guys who I have nothing but respect for.

dikkechill · 09-07-2002, 03:23 PM

Well it's possible that real traffic is send, if its niche traffic.

cya
Dikkechill

ZeNd · 09-07-2002, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
it's all cool - I just want to make it 100% clear. I would hate to have someone mis-read my statement and think poorly of guys who I have nothing but respect for.

09-07-2002, 01:56 PM	#1
Timothy Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 153	Site with productivity 270%++ Is it a hotbot? Hi all. I use UCJ-C v4.1.5 and saw a lot of new trades give me a very high productivity like 2.70 or 2.80 (Noticed that every site has around 2.70-2.80) Is this a hitbot? Or if it not where can i find the largest cheater list? Thanks in advance.

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09-07-2002, 02:01 PM	#2
abshard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 6,373	What is your sites average productivity? One of my site averages 390% productivity. If your site had an average of 100% then maybe you are getting cheated.

09-07-2002, 02:03 PM	#3
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Maybe... especially if its a lot of in hits too...

09-07-2002, 02:09 PM	#4
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Some guys have extremly productive traffic. Zilla, Shemp, JJJ, Redneckporn, and Tommy come to mind right away. I have seen some outrageous numbers off of their traffic. If you are unsure of a new trade, I suggest you go to the AWI board and search the domain name under the cheater forum. If it comes up clean, you might feel a little better. These days, I het that forum at least 5 times/week. Better safe than sorry.

09-07-2002, 02:29 PM	#5
ZeNd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 50	I agree with Steve to a point I mean that all those sites have hitbot traffic to that they pass on to trades.. You think a hitbot cheater would only try to cheat small sites. Som of them do it for a living and are nasty at what they do, What you need to really do is check your traffic for anon proxies and high proxy traffic .. Not AOL proxies either I mean proxies used as a gateway between the hitbotter and your site. Most bot traffic come from home pc's running while they are at school. So with intense investigation you'll find the sour ce but then you'll be only doing that dailly and not making trades with contacts you know alot of running around in a circle chasing you tale sucks but that's how it goes. KNow your traders and you'll be save in the traffic you are getting

09-07-2002, 02:36 PM	#6
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	I have a good way to help ya to determine if it's good traffic if you're unsure about the proxy part of it is to look at the "link tracking" of the trade to see which links are the top clicked links for that trade. I don't know about everyone else, but for me, there's usually a couple of links that are ALWAYS right on top of all of my trades. If you see that the top links clicked on for that trade are links that are outta the way or way down at the bottom of your page, then you could pretty much bet that the site is hitbotting you. Some people might argue that point saying that it depends on the niche of traffic that you're getting sent into your site, but for the most part, you'll be able to tell if it's real, by the links that the the script is showing are clicked on.

09-07-2002, 02:40 PM	#7
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Isn't necessarily a hitbot - on a few of my sites, there are 6 impressions for every 1 unique. If you're unsure, contact the owner and see what's going on. If you're not satasified with it, then kill the trade. Why take a chance?

09-07-2002, 02:45 PM	#9
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	ZeNd - I wasn't saying those guys are passing bot traffic, I was saying that they have VERY productive traffic that eaisly outperforms the traffic coming from my other trades. In fact, they have either a VERY small amount of proxy IPs coming from them, or none at all. 100% clean, legit, good stuff. Timothy, just upgrade to a newer version of UCJ. This will alert you to any unusual amounts of incoming proxy traffic, and help keep you from getting fucked by cheaters.

09-07-2002, 02:47 PM	#10
ZeNd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 50	Slick you also might want to mention how leech programs can also click those hidden links on the page. UCJ sends out those clicks to trades ruining you production on your trades side

09-07-2002, 03:15 PM	#13
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	it's all cool - I just want to make it 100% clear. I would hate to have someone mis-read my statement and think poorly of guys who I have nothing but respect for.