One time announcement. Stiffy and 30 minute trials! - GoFuckYourself.com

Mayor · 09-07-2002, 07:40 AM

<a href=http://www.stiffycash.com>Stiffy Cash</a> is now changing to a pay per 30 minute trial set up. We are paying you $35 per 30 min trial with no deductions, even for memberships that don?t convert after the trial. That means when you get a sign up you keep it and we worry about getting the customer to convert past the trial. We are still running $50 weekends and we are still giving you 10 reward points per sale to cash in on awesome prizes, even cars!

We have been testing the 30 minute trials for several weeks now and have seen an increase in initial sign ups of over 200% across the board. This means you will enjoy all the great benefits you have always had with the Stiffy Cash program and the only big change you should see is better ratios which transitions in to more cash for you. Your linking codes stay the same, so there is no extra work involved for pre existing Stiffy webmasters.

If you are not a Stiffy Cash webmaster now is the best time to join. These 30 minute free trials are getting sign ups like crazy!

As always, any questions can be sent direct to your personal Stiffy Cash account manager. Your personal account manager?s contact information can be found at the top of the webmasters page once you log in.

We are really excited about this new change as we are seeing better ratios then we have seen in years. I hope to see you join us and make some cash!

Mayor, PornCity.net

Wizzo · 09-07-2002, 07:42 AM

Sweet!

shunga · 09-07-2002, 07:57 AM

I already have a spam for cuteneighbor.com in my inbox.

Darren · 09-07-2002, 08:21 AM

well if it increased 200% across the board, then increase the amount u pay per a signup then? or is that a made up figure.

Gary · 09-07-2002, 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by Darren
well if it increased 200% across the board, then increase the amount u pay per a signup then? or is that a made up figure.

HUH? Did he say retention is up 200%? Or the number of people buying trials are up 200%? Cause more people buying a cheaper trial doesn't really equal out to higher payouts.

chodadog · 09-07-2002, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Darren
well if it increased 200% across the board, then increase the amount u pay per a signup then? or is that a made up figure.

What are you, insane?

SykkBoy · 09-07-2002, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Darren
well if it increased 200% across the board, then increase the amount u pay per a signup then? or is that a made up figure.

you failed algebra in school, didn't ya?

[Labret] · 09-07-2002, 12:49 PM

This is not good news.

Lensman · 09-07-2002, 12:52 PM

Nice program!

09-07-2002, 01:01 PM

Excuse Darren, he's a little out of it.

Looks great, good luck with it.

wizardmerlin · 09-07-2002, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
This is not good news.

I dont agree, I think this is a total win for affiliates...

[Labret] · 09-07-2002, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by wizard

I dont agree, I think this is a total win for affiliates...

The chargebacks will be absurd and it will only bring more attention to the industry from the credit card companies.

Just like free trials were a bad idea... this is a bad idea.

If it was ran properly it could be a good thing. But now everyone and the fucking grandmother is gonna run it into the dirt. Like every other good idea. It wont last long, enjoy it while you can.

Sly_RJ · 09-07-2002, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox
Excuse Darren, he's a little out of it.

Looks great, good luck with it.

Not like anyone listened to him anyway.

49thParallel · 09-07-2002, 03:11 PM

Of course it will "convert" to a paid trial....I imagine the surfer has to cancel within the 30 minutes or it automatically switches to a recurring monthly...right? ...Yep, sounds like another landmark in intregity and respectability for the adult industry. (insert sarcasm here!)

Theo · 09-07-2002, 03:41 PM

Mayor,do you still have the same policy about the webmasters not included in the premium 7-8 countries of the signup list? I mean the delayed payments.

CDSmith · 09-07-2002, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
If it was ran properly it could be a good thing. But now everyone and the fucking grandmother is gonna run it into the dirt. Like every other good idea. It wont last long, enjoy it while you can.

I don't suppose you'd be willing to discuss your ideas for exactly how this could be "run properly" would you?

[Labret] · 09-07-2002, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
I don't suppose you'd be willing to discuss your ideas for exactly how this could be "run properly" would you?

Online cancellation forms that worked.

In plain view, not hidden 36 pages deep.

A link to it directly on the email receipt.

Clearly stated terms upon joining about what happens when you do exceed 30 minutes.

In large print YOU WILL BE REBILLED AFTER 30 MINUTES FOR $49.95 EVERY MONTH UNTIL YOU CANCEL.

But honesty would be too much to ask wouldnt it?

All of that should be mandatory.

wizardmerlin · 09-09-2002, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

Online cancellation forms that worked.

In plain view, not hidden 36 pages deep.

A link to it directly on the email receipt.

Clearly stated terms upon joining about what happens when you do exceed 30 minutes.

In large print YOU WILL BE REBILLED AFTER 30 MINUTES FOR $49.95 EVERY MONTH UNTIL YOU CANCEL.

But honesty would be too much to ask wouldnt it?

All of that should be mandatory.

They dont get billed $49,95 after 30 minutes. they then get billed for a $2.55 trial, and then billed after the trial is over.

Since you did not even look at the join form, here is what it says in big letters under the join button.

There is NO CHARGE for the intial 30 minute preview.
After the preview you will receive a 1 day trial membership for only $2.50(unless cancelled).
Thereafter you will be billed $40.00 every 1 month(s) until cancelled.

essential · 09-09-2002, 02:44 PM

nice...

49thParallel · 09-09-2002, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by wizard

They dont get billed $49,95 after 30 minutes. they then get billed for a $2.55 trial, and then billed after the trial is over.

Since you did not even look at the join form, here is what it says in big letters under the join button.

There is NO CHARGE for the intial 30 minute preview.
After the preview you will receive a 1 day trial membership for only $2.50(unless cancelled).
Thereafter you will be billed $40.00 every 1 month(s) until cancelled.

Then perhaps a rewording of the terms and conditions is in order:

Here's what I found:

Amateur Camera - 30 Minute Preview
Today's charge is: 0.00 for a 30 day trial period.
Membership Renews Automatically at $40.00 every 1 month Until Cancelled...

So which does the surfer believe...30 minutes or 30 days..big difference...and a big surprise if they go by the terms & conditions.

Also, here's another clause:

If you purchase a trial subscription, and decide to terminate your trial subscription, you must do so AT LEAST one (1) day prior to the end of the Trial Period and you will not be charged any further

Pretty hard to do, when the trial only lasts 30 minutes or 1 day.

09-07-2002, 07:40 AM	#1
Mayor Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 497	One time announcement. Stiffy and 30 minute trials! <a href=http://www.stiffycash.com>Stiffy Cash</a> is now changing to a pay per 30 minute trial set up. We are paying you $35 per 30 min trial with no deductions, even for memberships that don?t convert after the trial. That means when you get a sign up you keep it and we worry about getting the customer to convert past the trial. We are still running $50 weekends and we are still giving you 10 reward points per sale to cash in on awesome prizes, even cars! We have been testing the 30 minute trials for several weeks now and have seen an increase in initial sign ups of over 200% across the board. This means you will enjoy all the great benefits you have always had with the Stiffy Cash program and the only big change you should see is better ratios which transitions in to more cash for you. Your linking codes stay the same, so there is no extra work involved for pre existing Stiffy webmasters. If you are not a Stiffy Cash webmaster now is the best time to join. These 30 minute free trials are getting sign ups like crazy! As always, any questions can be sent direct to your personal Stiffy Cash account manager. Your personal account manager?s contact information can be found at the top of the webmasters page once you log in. We are really excited about this new change as we are seeing better ratios then we have seen in years. I hope to see you join us and make some cash! Mayor, PornCity.net Last edited by Mayor; 09-07-2002 at 08:39 AM..

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09-07-2002, 01:01 PM	#10
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Excuse Darren, he's a little out of it. Looks great, good luck with it.

09-07-2002, 03:11 PM	#14
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Of course it will "convert" to a paid trial....I imagine the surfer has to cancel within the 30 minutes or it automatically switches to a recurring monthly...right? ...Yep, sounds like another landmark in intregity and respectability for the adult industry. (insert sarcasm here!)

09-07-2002, 03:41 PM	#15
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Mayor,do you still have the same policy about the webmasters not included in the premium 7-8 countries of the signup list? I mean the delayed payments.