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tenderobject 08-09-2007 05:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 12900987)
Best quote yet.

Personally I cant wait to laugh when Epass goes down and all the yahoos who love Epass will have to eat their words.

No way should they have taken that money.

You go after the bad guy who scammed - not create another crime by STEALING from an innocent bystander who provided a legitimate service
i agree!!!

mrkrabs 08-09-2007 05:46 AM
See Sig For Surprise!!!!!!!!!!!

tenderobject 08-09-2007 05:47 AM
fuck you scammers!

fr0gman 08-09-2007 06:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 12897616)
Not really.
As I mentioned before its like if you buy a Stolen TV and the cops find out. Even if you dont know it was stolen, the cops will come and take the TV, without you getting any of the money you payed for it back.

Its simply the way the laws are
Ummm... that is not what you said... receiving stolen property is on thing and being paid for a service is completely different..

BTW... here is what you said:

Quote:
The difference here is he received stolen money. If you received stolen or laundered money on your bank account, you would have to pay it back as well.
[]/EPASS-RANT]
I told you fuckwits and asshats MONTHS ago that epassporte is a bunch of fuckers. They would rather go after honest users than fix their own system.

HELLO EPASS
Deploy a simple email verification on each payment.
PROBLEM SOLVED

I think it is time to hit up a couple of banking buddies and see if we can't launch an HONEST and SECURE online payment system.

royaljelly2 08-09-2007 06:24 AM
Wow! What the heck would you have to pay him back for?
that's strange....crazy.

AtlantisCash 08-09-2007 06:26 AM
they blocked my partner's account and he relized it yesterday and it seems his acc blocked without reason.

he messaged them i guess, i wil post hear back when i learnt what's new about the story :(

gangbangjoe 08-09-2007 06:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 12901284)
they blocked my partner's account and he relized it yesterday and it seems his acc blocked without reason.

he messaged them i guess, i wil post hear back when i learnt what's new about the story :(
good luck to your partner


he will need it.

fr0gman 08-09-2007 06:30 AM
What does epass and AceHardware have in common?
http://www.theplace.co.uk/images/tools.jpg

To the uninitiated outside observer it seems like a simple solution. One would have to wonder why epass has not solved the "security" problems. In any other industry, if you had users stealing form other users you would find a solution PRONTO - unless you had something to gain from looking the other way.... hmmmmmmmm

Naja-ram 08-09-2007 06:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrkrabs (Post 12901194)
See Sig For Surprise!!!!!!!!!!!
go fuck yourself you little asshole

Naja-ram 08-09-2007 06:47 AM
why don't anyone of you jackasses use the alternatives for epass ? there are a few

Barefootsies 08-09-2007 06:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12897340)
I tried telling you fools this a cou0ple months ago.

noone wants to listen to good advice.

sad.
:2 cents:

fangtastic 08-09-2007 06:50 AM
Some bad stories in here!!

Nikki_Licks 08-09-2007 06:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gangbangjoe (Post 12897289)
Michael (ePassporte) (08:52 PM) :
I am sorry but you have to agree to pay back the money you recieved from pimpinj2
Which amounts to $1,165
I would tell them to fuck off! This company has too many problems to be reputable and all they can say is I am sorry or they won't answer legitimate questions.....:disgust

I really hope someone opens a great dependable program with good customer service. Epass obviously lacks these qualities....:winkwink:.

The Heron 08-09-2007 07:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KimJ
Its like if you buy a stolen TV and the cops find out. They will take the TV and you don't get your money back. Its of course hard for you to know that these money was stolen, but its the risk you take when dealing with people like that.
That is not correct, if you buy a tv in good faith it becomes yours. Laws are made to protect the consumer, at least in the usa.

suesheboy 08-09-2007 08:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 12901555)
Laws are made to protect the consumer, at least in the usa.
So why would a wise American businessperson risk going overseas for payments?
- they wouldn't!

xmas13 08-09-2007 09:39 AM
Epassporte Stinks Like Old Unwashed Pussy Stay Away From Them Unless You Are Desperate :)))))) Lol

Evil E 08-09-2007 09:43 AM
I've seen that thread before... at least 10 times.

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2007 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 12897475)
Its probably Visa that wants the money back, so do you expect them to pay out of their own pocket?

Of course I would want them to go after PimpingJ since they have his private address, but since you received the money, and the money "was fake" or what you call it - then they can do what they did.

Its like if you buy a stolen TV and the cops find out. They will take the TV and you don't get your money back. Its of course hard for you to know that these money was stolen, but its the risk you take when dealing with people like that.

Im sorry. Your situation SUCK - agree, but Epass did what they can and should do.

Thats the most ridiculous analogy ever .. #1 this is cash not a tv.

if a criminal stole a t.v. , sold it to some scumbag and made $500 , then used that $500 to eat at mcdonalds , they arent going to ask mcdonalds to give the cash back

#2 how come when anyones account is emptied by some thief epassporte NEVER gives the money back ..

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2007 10:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 12901555)
That is not correct, if you buy a tv in good faith it becomes yours. Laws are made to protect the consumer, at least in the usa.
actually no he is correct . , big difference is in his case he is talking about an actual object..

stolen merchandise is stolen period , doesnt matter if you bought it in good faith or not. but were talking about cash not an object

Klen 08-09-2007 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 12900525)
Sorry, but Paypal does NOT follow the same policy. I do a lot of business on eBay, and I have had someone pay me via an instant transfer that bounced, and also using a stolen credit card. In both cases Paypal asked me for more info regarding the transaction, mainly to make sure I shipped the item. Once I provided them that info they released the funds to me and went after the scammer. Don't get me wrong, Paypal is a flaming pile of monkey shit, but they are still a million times better than that fucking bush league operation Epass.
O realy?Then tell paypal to return 1743$ which they take from my account without hesitation.They just sended me generic message "be careful next time".They even didnt dare to write normal answer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 12901183)
You're way off the mark on that one. As an ePassporte merchant you can get hit with chargebacks. And the disturbing thing is you can get hit with chargebacks that are over a year old. We just got handed chargebacks on Monday from sales done in May 2006. This doesn't seem the least bit reasonable to me.

As a p2p transfer you can't get hit with a 'chargeback' but you sure can get shafted by them clawing back funds. And how deep does that go? If someone pays me $1000 and I then use $999 of it to pay someone else, then refuse to give it back like this guy did, do they go after the person I paid next and tell him he has to give the funds back?
Yes i was notice people with bussiness account have big problems with epassporte chargebacks,frauds etc..Well atleast chargeback cannot affect personal account,only stolen credit card as it happen in gangbangjoe case.

Klen 08-09-2007 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12900392)
Ahhh ok, so when they bust a drug dealer they go to the grocery store where he bought food and make them give them all the money he used to buy groceries, and then his cell phone company has to give the feds all the money he paid on his cell phone bill, and his landlord......

Gimme a fucking break. It's EPASSPORTE's job to detect fraud UPFRONT, when the account is opened.
Once you allow someone to load money, send it to someone else, and then allow that other person to withdraw the money, it's done, it's over.
You should have caught the fraud on the way in, not weeks after the fact.

Epass is gonna go down soon anyways, they way they're allowing U.S. citizens to fund gambling accounts with their service is gonna be the end for them.
Well tehnicly you are right,they should demand documents not just for aditional credit cards,they should demand for each credit card included used one for opening.On alertpay you cant add credit card until you send them requied documents by e-mail.In any case,this is big problem,it's not specificly epassporte or paypal issue.I think most responsible for this is credit card industry who should be finaly implemented better security and that chargeback feature should be canceled since i dont see point of that except commiting fraud.Until that is happen,is best to stick with e-currency proccesors which can be funded only over wire,so that eliminate chargeback and stolen credit card effect.Only way to lose money is then when someone hack account,but even that can be resolved with few simple security add ons like pin which should be requied for each sending.

CaptainHowdy 08-09-2007 10:56 AM
Fucked up shit...

tenderobject 08-09-2007 09:01 PM
bump for the best payment service in the world epass!

After Shock Media 08-09-2007 09:32 PM
First what are all the fees for that we pay besides to line the coffers of this company?
Second many of these issues can very easily be fixed via some very super cheap methods.
Third why did I have to jump through 200 hoops to get my account open, including verifiying amounts, dealing with verified by visa, etc.
Forth when someone somehow takes every penny from my account why do I not get my money back? Specially when I know it was not some phising or wrong url.
Fifth why do they take the public stance of not getting envolved in P2P transactions, yet when they may be out some cash they get very envolved?
Sixth is why can they not email you when they decide to lock your account whenever they feel like it.
Seventh is aside from Michael, why is it their support can not do a single thing and are only good at sending out form letters, hanging up on you, or not having enough phone lines to accept all the calls despite them being unable to answer or fix a damn thing due to lack of authority or ability?
Eight, why do we have to have this same sort of thread almost every two weeks?
Nine, to all the epass users who only jump into epass threads to say how much they rock I am glad for you. However for a good percentage of users there seems to be constant issues.
Ten, please someone open something else up.

split_joel 08-09-2007 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gangbangjoe (Post 12897289)
im am totally raging right now and i am so pissed on myself for not listening to all the epass-haters.

i never had a problem with them TILL NOW.

a few days ago i wanted to log on my account to check my balance to find it "FROZEN FOR SECURITY PURPOSE"

so i ask michael on icq why it is closed.

a few hours later he can tell me it was closed BECAUSE PIMPIN_J scammed people

i was like WTF has this to do with me

he: because you recieved payments from him

at this point i should have told them to GFY.

but i was dumb enough to be calm and send them my id and docs like needed to "reactivate my account"

so today i icq michael again to ask when i can use my account again and guess what i hear:


Michael (ePassporte) (08:52 PM) :
I am sorry but you have to agree to pay back the money you recieved from pimpinj2
Which amounts to $1,165

me(08:52 PM) :
WTF?
me (08:52 PM) :
where to

Michael (ePassporte) (08:53 PM) :
To his account.
There they will be used to payback the money he stole using stolen credit cards.
me (08:53 PM) :
but this is insane !!!
now i am the idiot?
Michael (ePassporte) (09:04 PM) :
I will have more have more information later today when I hear back from my boss.
me (09:04 PM) :
i wont pay one fucking cent
me(09:08 PM) :
you are still there?
Michael (ePassporte) (09:08 PM) :
I am.
me (09:08 PM) :
you don't need to ask your boss
me (09:08 PM) :
close my account
me (09:08 PM) :
im done with epass
me (09:08 PM) :
this is not a proper way of handling things
me(09:08 PM) :
im a customer who did nothing wrong
me (09:09 PM) :
i paid fees
me (09:09 PM) :
i don't want to have money with an organisation treating a paying customer that way
Michael (ePassporte) (09:09 PM) :
I understand and I am sorry I can't do more for you.



now tell me this isn't a fucking JOKE???



on a side note: thanks to michael for your time and support. seems like you are the only professional part of epass.
My epass and Splitinfinity's epass was suspended because of PimpinJ as well.

FakeNick 08-09-2007 10:45 PM
i love epass mallick is a top notch stand up guy and he looks after the bros so no complaints about them from me

epass rocks period!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tenderobject 08-10-2007 12:08 AM
bump for gangbangjoe..

can you hit me up when you get online?

rowan 08-10-2007 12:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12897741)
nope, that is not how it works here

I had a LONG talk with my bank about this when they informed me that they wouold have to eat the money they lost from the credit card being stolen

they are responsible for that money, and even though they can try and "ask" for the money back that they are out, they almost never get it back...the BANK loses the money
Sorry, you're wrong. It's the merchant that has to pay back the money, plus a chargeback fee. If the bank reversed stolen transactions with their own pool of money then you'd never see a chargeback with a negative amount in your ccbill stats. :2 cents:

If the merchant has already shipped tangible goods then it's a double hit: they lose the physical goods, and also the payment for them.

This is why epass are attempting to recover the funds from the original poster, as the bank has reversed the fraudulent CC transactions, meaning epass has had to pay them back.

IMHO epass should accept some responsibility in this instance, because they authorised the CC transactions. Part of the excessively high load fee should be used to fund a pool to "internally" recover fraudulent funds.

gangbangjoe 08-10-2007 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12906211)
bump for gangbangjoe..

can you hit me up when you get online?
icqed you :thumbsup

tenderobject 08-10-2007 02:58 AM
got it! check your icq man :)

tenderobject 08-10-2007 03:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rowan (Post 12906226)

IMHO epass should accept some responsibility in this instance, because they authorised the CC transactions. Part of the excessively high load fee should be used to fund a pool to "internally" recover fraudulent funds.
yeah this is what i was kinda confused of... epss verified the stolen cc (allegedly) then the guy load money from that cc.. means that epass verified it so theyre the one who should shoulder it cos it was their fault. why verify an account with suspcious details/id etc? i don;t get it.. epass deducted 157$ i have on epass that pimpin_j sent me from 4 months until the last one.. fucking bullshit.. i talked to split joel. looks like epass done something wrong with this. still waiting for michael....

check this http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...9&postcount=14

Klen 08-10-2007 04:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12906620)
yeah this is what i was kinda confused of... epss verified the stolen cc (allegedly) then the guy load money from that cc.. means that epass verified it so theyre the one who should shoulder it cos it was their fault. why verify an account with suspcious details/id etc? i don;t get it.. epass deducted 157$ i have on epass that pimpin_j sent me from 4 months until the last one.. fucking bullshit.. i talked to split joel. looks like epass done something wrong with this. still waiting for michael....

check this http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...9&postcount=14
Can you check exact time difference between load and deduction?Is it more or less 4 months.Also,if it was realy verified card with documents then that could consider as epassporte mistake.

tenderobject 08-10-2007 04:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 12906855)
Can you check exact time difference between load and deduction?Is it more or less 4 months.Also,if it was realy verified card with documents then that could consider as epassporte mistake.
they just deduct the money yesterday or 2 days ago just to unsuspend my account. i told michael to get the money pimpin_j sent me from the first transcation up to the last june 22nd.. i think the first transaction we had was from a banner design which is 4/5months ago.

here are the transactions

22 Jun 2007 US$xx.00
22 Mar 2007 US$xx.00
11 Mar 2007 US$xx.00
05 Mar 2007 US$xx.00
11 Feb 2007 US$xx.00

how can they just pull the money from us in the first place when it was their fault that they verified the account of that allegedly stolen cc... wtf???


look at what split_joel said

Quote:
Both Splitinfinitys Epass and My epass was blocked. Mine will be back on tommarow, it was a mistake on Epass part and Pimpin_J account has been turned back on to. He is no scammer, and we do not allow such spamming and or scamming on our network.

if you are asking about the time when pimpin_j load money from his cc.. epass doesn't want to disclose it.. too funny eh?

Klen 08-10-2007 05:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12906893)
they just deduct the money yesterday or 2 days ago just to unsuspend my account. i told michael to get the money pimpin_j sent me from the first transcation up to the last june 22nd.. i think the first transaction we had was from a banner design which is 4/5months ago.

here are the transactions

22 Jun 2007 US$xx.00
22 Mar 2007 US$xx.00
11 Mar 2007 US$xx.00
05 Mar 2007 US$xx.00
11 Feb 2007 US$xx.00

how can they just pull the money from us in the first place when it was their fault that they verified the account of that allegedly stolen cc... wtf???


look at what split_joel said




if you are asking about the time when pimpin_j load money from his cc.. epass doesn't want to disclose it.. too funny eh?
Well the thing what is bother me Michael O says maximum time limit which can cause reversing funds beacuse of stolen credit card is 4 months,that is why i ask about time.I dont wanna wake up one day and been in minus 10000$ beacuse of it.

tenderobject 08-10-2007 05:28 AM
some of the transactions was 5 months ago... lets see what will happen next.. waiting for michael... want to know if they made a mistake in their part... thats what split_joel told me (you see the quote above)

gecko 08-10-2007 05:36 AM
that sucks... that is why exchanging money is risky. epass for paypal and vice versa

potter 08-10-2007 05:44 AM
agreed, it's always risky

Klen 08-10-2007 05:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12906944)
some of the transactions was 5 months ago... lets see what will happen next.. waiting for michael... want to know if they made a mistake in their part... thats what split_joel told me (you see the quote above)
Well i wont be suprised if they did mistake,they limited my account and later remove limitation.

CDSmith 08-10-2007 06:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12905654)
First what are all the fees for that we pay besides to line the coffers of this company?

Second many of these issues can very easily be fixed via some very super cheap methods.

Third why did I have to jump through 200 hoops to get my account open, including verifiying amounts, dealing with verified by visa, etc.

Forth when someone somehow takes every penny from my account why do I not get my money back? Specially when I know it was not some phising or wrong url.

Fifth why do they take the public stance of not getting envolved in P2P transactions, yet when they may be out some cash they get very envolved?

Sixth is why can they not email you when they decide to lock your account whenever they feel like it.

Seventh is aside from Michael, why is it their support can not do a single thing and are only good at sending out form letters, hanging up on you, or not having enough phone lines to accept all the calls despite them being unable to answer or fix a damn thing due to lack of authority or ability?

Eight, why do we have to have this same sort of thread almost every two weeks?

Nine, to all the epass users who only jump into epass threads to say how much they rock I am glad for you. However for a good percentage of users there seems to be constant issues.

Ten, please someone open something else up.
Quoted for emphasis. And might I add... :thumbsup

tenderobject 08-10-2007 06:11 AM
bump! will go out tonight for night/bulb shoot how theres a good news when i get back

stickyfingerz 08-10-2007 06:25 AM
Well hope they declare they were wrong quickly because I charged back on paypal to pimpinj, and if this was a mistake by epass there is going to be some serious issues. :Oh crap

stickyfingerz 08-10-2007 06:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12906944)
some of the transactions was 5 months ago... lets see what will happen next.. waiting for michael... want to know if they made a mistake in their part... thats what split_joel told me (you see the quote above)
Can you hit me up on icq please.

jonesonyou 08-10-2007 06:33 AM
another story to the fucked epass list.

tenderobject 08-10-2007 02:26 PM
ok... so what i thought was this was resolved...

Quote:
Keyser [Fri, Aug 10, 2007, 11:46 PM] :
Hi
his account have not been unblocked and will not be unblocked.
sp please let us know split_joel if you didn't pay back the money you did transaction with pimpin_j.. as of now he is still a scammer...

i'll quote this again

Quote:
Both Splitinfinitys Epass and My epass was blocked. Mine will be back on tommarow, it was a mistake on Epass part and Pimpin_J account has been turned back on to. He is no scammer, and we do not allow such spamming and or scamming on our network.

tenderobject 08-11-2007 03:02 AM
bump for an answer!

tenderobject 08-11-2007 03:59 AM
bump again! lol lets put epass threads on the top!

suesheboy 08-11-2007 05:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12912227)
bump again! lol lets put epass threads on the top!
Lets make this a sticky!

Vick! 08-11-2007 06:20 AM
Holy shit. It sucks big time.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 12898265)
how does the store supposed to know he the cc is stolen?
This is what called e-commerce dude. :)

Vick! 08-11-2007 06:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 12901183)
We just got handed chargebacks on Monday from sales done in May 2006. This doesn't seem the least bit reasonable to me.
WTF?

Visa and MC have avg of 6 months time for chargebacks .. Only Amex allows upto 12 months and in very rare case 18 months.

how on earth you got hit by chargeback after 14 months? Bullshit or what? :warning

Mr. Garibaldi 08-11-2007 06:40 AM
so there is the way to block all epassporte network:

1) fund new account with $20k from cc
2) send $20 to every epassporte id you can find
3) charge $20k back

your account will be blocked for fraud and all accounts you sent money to will be blocked as well

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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