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			 I keep see on "buy and sell" , the site name, the PR and the link price,the ones who sell should read this again: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
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		 Who care,yahoo and msn dont have problem with this. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 for the ones with most traffic from yahoo and msn aint no problem i guess 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 the whole idea is silly , i know of a site that buys and sells links . GOOGLE. heh 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			and every other website almost , its called advertising. is google trying to say that advertsising is bad ? we cant buy text links ? look at the bottom of www.phpbb.com . i wonder if they will lose their pr9 
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		 And also google is hypocrate beacuse you can buy any keyword on adwords no matter is your site relevant or not. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 that just sounds like natural changes, google either bans you or they dont. devaluing the links aint gonna do squat as people will still buy links 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 thats kinda what i mean in that they sell and buy links, the only difference is they run the ads thru script so they wont actually get counted as a "backlink" , but all that means is " its ok to buy banner links but not text links?" or more importantly "it's ok to buy from google but not from others in the same fashion" 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 What about paid inclusion in directories?   The only way they could devalue a paid link is if they modify the algorithm that determines the number of 1-way/reciprocal links counted and the value of these links that determine the PR of a site.  Who wants to do that much math for 1 site??   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Only with human intervention can they probably do something about this and how can they not screw it up when so many PhDs are involved with the code? Just a thought. 
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		 the thing is that u can lose alot traffic (google i mean) playing with this.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 sites can lose alot of google traffic playing with link trades ? or google can lose alot of traffic trying to ban links ? 
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		 phpbb.com is prob the highest pr site i know that actively sells backlinks . if such a huge site like phpbb is doing it and is not banned , seems strange they would go after little guys 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 So, when will google ban pages on .edu's or .gov's that contain porn related phrases? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 selling links...i donno whats with that phpbb.com , but u can be right when u say that google can lose 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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