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|  07-30-2007, 07:58 AM | #1 | 
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				Outsourcing Tgp Submissions - Is It Profitable?
			 im looking for any helpful input from ppl that have done this or ppl that are familiar with this. currently contemplating hiring an outsource company to do tgp submissions using chameleon. a variable here would be the quality of the gals. so keeping in mind they will be good quality and w solid content.... in general did they do it well? did they generate sales / traffic? did it come remotely close to covering their cost & bandwidth? would you recommend just buying partner accounts over outsourcing? or possibly a mix? any outsourcing companies that feel you can deliver results please feel to post your info here.  THX!!! ANY INPUT APPRECIATED!!! | 
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|  07-30-2007, 08:01 AM | #2 | 
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				 | it depends on alot of variable quality of the designer's galls quality of your paid partner accounts quality of the submitters ect ect ect | 
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|  07-30-2007, 08:10 AM | #3 | 
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				 | You dont need paid partner accounts to get the traffic and the return, but you do need patients. It takes time for some of them to get accepted.   I was talking with someone that does that for people, and he is seeing a 3 month lag in the submission to the acceptance from a lot of sites. So dont think that 1 gallery a day for 30 days will do much. you should do 1 or 2 per day for at least 90 days. 
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|  07-30-2007, 08:11 AM | #4 | 
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				 | And if you need someone to do the work, ICQ me, I will put you in touch with the person. 
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|  07-30-2007, 08:14 AM | #5 | 
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				 | Chameleon Submitter in conjunction with Chameleon Partner Requester works out great. For killer gallery templates check: www.h3ads.com !! 
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|  07-30-2007, 08:14 AM | #6 | 
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				 | hi fetishwealth, we have available webmasters staff here for you, to do your submission using chameleon submitter and applying you for partners account, so it can bring more traffic to your site, if you are interested just hit me up on my ICQ or email me for more info?????/// thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 
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|  07-30-2007, 09:31 AM | #7 | 
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				 | thanks for the info.  just hit you guys up. anyone else with input? much appreciated  | 
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|  07-30-2007, 09:51 AM | #8 | |
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 "twoface" might not be the best "brand" to generate a lot of business.  | |
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|  07-30-2007, 09:55 AM | #9 | 
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|  08-17-2007, 10:57 PM | #10 | 
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				 | still looking? you can hit me up 
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|  08-18-2007, 01:59 AM | #11 | 
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				 | I'm in for this as well (looking for submitters that is). Email me with what you need from me and we can get started shortly. dykwia @ gmail.com 
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|  08-18-2007, 02:09 AM | #12 | 
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				 | DO NOT outsorce submissions to webmasters who submit for more clients. They even change their identity (IP, hosting, coockies) to appear to be different person (that's considered cheating) or submit from one identity for multiple clients (this way your galleries may be rejected because TGP will consider you as a multi submiter). The best way is to find EXPERIENCED person who will do complete service (design, hosting, buy niched PAs etc) and you will be his single client. The problem is that it will be expensive   | 
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|  08-18-2007, 04:38 AM | #13 | 
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				 | What are you asking for janosik for your help ? . 
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|  08-18-2007, 05:55 AM | #14 | 
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				 | i need one also, talk to a guy and he asking me $500 a month for one gallery a day. is that fair? he will do all, download the pics from the sponsors, thumbs them, bulid them a gallery (4 gallery a month), and upload them to my server and submit. | 
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|  08-18-2007, 05:57 AM | #15 | 
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				 | wtf?500$ monthly?I could do same for 100$. | 
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|  08-18-2007, 06:06 AM | #16 | 
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				 | It depends on you current knowledge. I can teach you everything from basics (like how to make thumbs in photoshop or html), design tips, working with paid spots and paid PAs, to gallery SEO, Free Sites etc. Price vary from $250 to $400. I already have a student now, but I should be free in a week or so. | 
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|  08-18-2007, 06:13 AM | #17 | 
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				 | It nice to see someone teaching this stuff janosik. At the current time I am only looking at the theory of gaining traffic due to the tuns of "black SEO" practices... Do you have any words on this ? Thanks for your time,  . 
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|  08-18-2007, 06:14 AM | #18 | 
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|  08-18-2007, 06:17 AM | #19 | 
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				 | i give the job to the guy, we agreed $400 for his first 2 months then $500 for the fallowing months i don't think you can get a fulltime submitter with $100 a month salary only, if there is i'm afraid not to hire them, they might SHAVE me | 
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|  08-18-2007, 06:24 AM | #20 | 
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				 | let us know how it goes   | 
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|  08-18-2007, 04:22 PM | #21 | 
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				 | bump for some good info... thanks for the input! | 
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|  08-18-2007, 04:52 PM | #22 | 
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				 | i am thinking of hiring inhouse 
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|  08-18-2007, 06:39 PM | #23 | 
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				 | hit me up we talk business | 
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|  08-18-2007, 06:40 PM | #24 | 
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				 | i can do gallery submitting if someone interested you can hit me up thanks | 
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|  08-18-2007, 10:51 PM | #25 | 
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				 | hit me up if you're looking for a cheap but quality submitter. my contacts on sig. thanks.   
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|  08-21-2007, 11:42 PM | #26 | 
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				moron
			 He needs lots of help......Trust me! | 
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|  08-22-2007, 01:51 AM | #27 | 
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				 | So ... still any good submitters available who do everything? Build, upload, submit etc..? ICQ 125586484 
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|  08-22-2007, 02:30 AM | #28 | |
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 For submissions I hired a dedicated submitter from http://www.staffoffshore.com/ about 18 months ago. The first 2 months were kind of rough as I had to teach him about it and give him a hand. But the guy picked up well and he continued to become a valuable worker. He is submitting one or two galleries a day, partly by hand and a bulk by submission software. I have a calendar online that will schedule his galleries and he works all by himself. He has 1 or 2 hours of time every day to take on additional tasks or to surf the net in search of additional tgps for submissions. My advice would be, make sure you get a submitter who will work at least 6 days a week. If you get a submitter that is on a 5 day schedule, chances are you will end up with 4 days, only, due to the high amount of holidays and occasional days off. By working 6 to 8 hours on submissions, I can not see how a submitter would be able to design galleries. You would need to hire an extra designer for it. 
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|  08-23-2007, 07:07 AM | #29 | 
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				 | 1. Partner accounts ( I have over 350 active ) 2. Good design 3. Good content ( good site for promoting ) 4. Fast server | 
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|  08-23-2007, 07:20 AM | #30 | 
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				 | The answer to your question is: YES, it can be very profitable! I have some very loyal customers that have been with me for over a year now. It really depends on a lot of variables though, such as design, content, niche, time of day you submit, descriptions, fast servers, partner accounts, etc etc etc. If you decide to outsource your submissions, be sure to hire someone that specializes on submissions, otherwise you'll probably not get a decent return (before I started offering these services, I've used quite a few ones without where the employees simply didn't have the expertise to submit)! Take a look at Quality Hand Submissions and hit me up if you have any doubts/questions.  
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|  08-23-2007, 09:51 AM | #31 | |
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 Submission $10.00 Thumbnail creation $2.50 E-mail confirmation $1.50 Report $1.00 Setup fee * $20.00 Use your own partner accounts * $15.00 Partner accounts request * $35.00 if you create all: go to sponsors affiliate area, grab content there, create thumbnail, create gallery, etc HOW MUCH? | |
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|  08-23-2007, 01:51 PM | #32 | |
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 That's pretty much a complete hands off solution. 
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|  08-23-2007, 01:52 PM | #33 | |
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 We have a new one that will do all the math for you!  
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|  08-23-2007, 06:06 PM | #35 | 
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				 | Do any of these submitters, as part of a complete package, also hunt down partner accounts and work on building a custom database to use for that client? I would think that would be very important for any long term relationship. 
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|  08-23-2007, 07:02 PM | #36 | |
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 so what come up with this? you mention you will use your own submitter database, these database had some tgp site PA? | |
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|  08-23-2007, 07:09 PM | #38 | 
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|  08-25-2007, 08:05 AM | #39 | 
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|  08-25-2007, 08:12 AM | #40 | 
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				 | And also in my 100$ is not included design,only submission and cs+cc licence. | 
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|  08-25-2007, 11:11 AM | #41 | |
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|  08-26-2007, 10:00 PM | #43 | 
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				 | $500/monthly. I will create and submit galleries for you... 5 days a week.  7 days will cost you more.  Email in the sig. | 
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|  08-26-2007, 10:03 PM | #44 | 
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				 | the $500 also includes hosting...daily reports.. etc. | 
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