Oh, I am sorry. Did you need the bigger storage area? Perhaps some extra space for each of your personalities?

I have been guilty of creating multiple personalities on the boards but at least I can seperat fact from fiction with mine.

I don't know about you guys, but all this is gettin' me to thinkin' that a drunken housewife belting out a tune into a karaoke machine in some smokey bar might actually be hot if she was takin' it in the ass during the show.....

that's what all this is really about here..... a very creative way of breaking this new niche wide open baby....

nice job guys... it's working!!

But how to bring it to the masses? What will the surfer presentation version be like?

Aaron just step the fuck up and come fuckin clean for gods sake. This fuckin 'I wonder if this is a joke' fuckin junior high school attitude is loosing its luster.

QUIT FUCKING DODGING!!

Unlike you, I stick to the original terms. ILet's assume for a moment that I did not pull the plug for your failure to fullfil your end of the deal......If by the 15th of September I only had 6 of the 10 sets then you would have gotten your 2 grand back on that date. In this case you did not pay the full 5 grand so I will apply the 2 grand to the shoots that I owe you. I think it is safe to say that I will not have 4 shoots ready for you on that date so I will in fact owe you $2000 on September 15th.

Would you like me to send a tutor by to help you comprehend this?

here it is. But it was just a regular stabbing.... not a face stabbing. :winkwink:

Jesus christ...you sound like a little bitch.....mom he hit me...MOOOOM he hit me. MOOOOOOOOOOM he hit me.

You should buy a cd player so your shit stops skipping.

Don't tempt me.

Are you done posting hypothetical scenarios? This is real life big fella. Fact is you have 0 shoots and no money to produce them. And You keep bringing up these terms we suposedy agreed on. Do you understand how absurd it sounds that I would give you $2000 a month prior to the scheduled shoot begin date only to give you another $3000 the month after when you actually start. Iam a nice guy and all but why would I agree to essentially loan you $2000 for a month for the favor of you shooting me content when I pay you the entire amount?

pictures dammit. fuck!

[whooooosh]Over the idiots head[/whoooosh]

Hey Mr. Single Digit I.Q. Man... YOU are the client who fucked me over. Not another client.

Hold on.... The tutor is on her way. Be gentle, it is an 8 year old girl.

Aaron once again I will ask you to leave aside your personal issues until this business issue is resolved and secondly please have the nuts to say that to me face to face.

<-- Begin off topic now

Yeah...and? I could swear that you and I talked after that and I told you to come by yesterday. Sorry that you have lost the brain cells that housed that info.

this is utter madness! (I love it!)

look.... guys...

I'm failing to see what the problem is here? Is it a geographical thing? Cuz it seems like you two live somewhat near to each other.... ? Right?

Aaron has already said he will give you your $$ back Rory, as well as your gear.... sooo..... is there some reason you can't simply go over there and pick it up?

is that too simplistic? Are there other forces at work here? I don't understand why this is so difficult to resolve....

but I got my monkey workin' on the answer here.... for sure

http://www.opticalamplitude.com/stuff/monkeyboard.jpg

You are telling me you cant pay me because I fucked you over?? Think about that for a second man. I gave you $2k but then fucked you over so you couldnt pay ME? How does this work... I thought we already decided on the fact that it cost you $750 for this 'inconvenience' and we deducted that hardship to give us a total of $1250. So Im really excited to here how the fact that I cost you $750 (which was already deducted from my deposit I may add) makes you not be able to refund the 'aaron fee modified' deposit ampount?

Listen to me very carefully. I will even type slow and in big lettters for you...

COME GET YOUR SHIT AT 1pm AND YOU WILL GET $1250.00 ON SEPTEMBER 15th.

Now... What is it that I am dodging?

Fucking schmuck. Wear your helmet on the trip over here later. I would hate to see you take another blow to your noggin.

He is offering to give me my money back on the 15th of sep. I countered with the 10th of Sep as Iam flying to Cali on the 13th (I can scan my ticket if you would like aaron) to shoot this content that aaron decided against shooting (or whatever fuck blame it on me I dont care doesnt change the fact that the money is gone).

Oh, and I called the little yellow bus company. They will be there at noon to pick you up. They will supply the bib so you do not get drool on your shirt.

Do you realize that we talked at about 8 o clock? I would have loved to hear that come pick it up answer when you hung up on me at 1pm today? Fuck its like trying to rationalize with a brick fucking wall.

Absurd you say? By all means....Find a content provider who will shoot this shit for you to your specs and not charge you twice the price and demand full payment upfront.

You see, we know stupid ideas when people ask us to shoot them and we do not take risks like that.

I sure hope that you have the balls to say that little shit to me tom. boss. Leave your fuckin guns at home and fuckin say that shit to my face if that is how you feel. Iam not a violent person but I have no problem if you wanna be this cute little fuck to my face, I will beat your ass.

Ever heard of lawyers?
They love business deals gone bad.

Bottom line aaron , you agreed to that price , if it was too low you shouldn't have agreed to the price. If you demand full payment up front that is fine..... why the hell did you take my half payment one month before though thats what iam not understanding. Where you just trying to take advantage of the fact that I believed I was paying a deposit and use that money and worry about the shoots after you goit the $3k?

Who the fuck do you think you are? I will say ANYTHING to your face. You ain't shit to me pal. You think you scare me or something? Fuck you and your intimidation attempts.

You act like a god damn bully. Too bad for you that I am not running scared.

Also please note that at this point I will attack you any way that I see fit. You are trying to slander my business. I take that personally. You brought this on, you brought it to the public board, you can deal with it.

so.... to boil this down here... in essence, this isn't about the money or the gear anymore.... it's about a matter of a few days.

And you (Rory) can't pick it up on the 15th because you're going to be in a different state. Understandable.

Yet Aaron isn't willing to give you the $$ or the gear any earlier than the 15th,... (which isn't possible for you, again, because you will be gone on other business.) Seems a little unreasonable.

Do you need the money and the gear in order to accomplish your shoot in California?

If not, I'd suggest simply waiting until you return and pick it up when you get back.

If you do, then grab a bigger hammer and keep pounding. Or at least get your gear picked up.

Aaron, whatever your reason is for not giving him the $$ before the 15th, is there a reason why he cannot pick up his gear prior to his flight? The money may be spent and maybe that's the reason the 15th is important here, but certainly there's no reason to hold his equipment hostage is there?

I asked you several times to keep personal comments away from this business issue. I never have attempted to intimidate you, but you better be damn sure if you fuckin say the shit that you are saying on this board you will get a reaction.

If I was slandering your business wouldnt that mean I was telling lies? Please point out to me 1 lie and a logical way to back it up. And may I remind you that the reason this was taken to a public board was becuase you hung up on me.

Rory

No Aaron said he could have the equipment tomorrow - cliff notes:

A:

MONEY SEPT 15th
EQUIPMENT TOMORROW

R:

MONEY SEPT 10th
EQUIPMENT TOMORROW

Debate is only about the 10th v 15th

At least I think so

Sounds like a personal problem. Our deal was for the 15th. You are gonna be in CA and I will be in NV on the 10th. I am the one holding all the marbles....you are missing several.

Since you will be out of town... I will mail you the check on the 15th...REGISTERED, RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED. What addy shall I send it to?

BTW... I will even pick up the mailing cost...just for you....cause I am that kind of guy. :winkwink:

I need the money to pay models. That is why this money was paid to aaron in the first place. Shoots, I have none. I need money to produce some. Some of that money happens to be residing with aaron.

You sound like you are doing me a favor by returning my money and taking out $750 for a joy fee? Doesnt this seem odd to you aaron???

somebody is going to have to swallow some pride here before I come beat both your asses and steal everything

Do you realize that you should have picked your shit up a couple of weeks ago like you said you would? Or even Monday...again...like you said you would.

As for teh 8 o clock thing... I got home around 6 and posted to the thread at that time...telling you to call me then...not at 8. You decided to continue fucking around on the board instead of calling. Again, not my fault.

Want proof?

Session Start (ICQ - 130823758:Chris): Wed Sep 04 17:59:33 2002
[17:59] Chris: So whats up with the thread about you in GFY?
[18:11] AaronM: What thread?
[18:13] Chris: You aren't going to like it and it is already 2 pages long... Unless this is a cunning ploy on your part.. I can never tell
[18:20] Chris: So what is up
[18:27] AaronM: Replied

I replied at 6:27pm and you took an hour and a half to call me.

How are you holding all the marbles... are youi threating me that if I dont do what you want that you arent gonna give me my shitor something. Just fuckin come out for who you are aaron....... if you wanna play the fuckin king shit pimp boy step up to the mic and come up with a logical reason of why its cool to spend money that was given to you for shoots on other shit?

Jesus fuckin christ aaron would you fuckin quit dodging. How does the time at which I pick up equipment make the fact that you spent the deposit I payed you for shoots on other shit?

Leave my guns at my home? Uhh...you are aware that your equipment is at my home correct?

You are not a violent person but you will beat my ass?
Interesting.....Well, you have me convinced. You want me on your jury when you are prosecuted for assult?

It takes a big man to make physical threats based on unstable emotions.

i have no damn idea why you have agreed to this 750.00
It still blows my mind, and you seem to be accepting this.

WTF?

Lemme help you regain focus here aaron. We have been discussing all these related issues for 4 pages but you still havent come up with a logical answer to the question of why did you spend money that was given to you for shoots on differnet shit??

Aaron like I said and I will say again ... please keep your personal fuckin comments to yourself until we resolve this business issue. Iam not fucking joking about this.

Ummm, perhaps it is because those were teh terms that you asked for? According to you, that is what your finances were able to handle. Or are you forgetting that too?

boneprone ... would you accept nada (which I have now) or $1250? Iam getting fucked on this deal but if I can get fucked and have some of my money back it will help pay the bills man.

Exactly aaron... I couldnt afford to do all the $5 at that time so I would put a deposit down of $2k. Never was it mentioned that you would go out and blow the $2k before you ever shot anyone. That is the issue here man.... you blew my deposit money and now Iam fucked..... and thats fucked up so iam bitching about it here