he's was a high school kid that didn't quite understand what he was stealing and why. Trust me, I would not be employing him right now if I felt was a bad kid. I have many projects he's worked on that all turn out exactly as expected without any question of honesty.

I can tell you that once I took Justin under my wing he did nothing but cause problems and go behind everyones back. Then he has millions of excuses for everything he does.

does that really matter? A programmer is a programmer..... industry really is secondary... even 12 year old kids that know programming understand when they are stealing code.... you may not necessarily be in the commercial transportation industry, but you know that stealing a car will get you jail time, right? So you're telling us that there's a programmer out there that actually doesn't know when he's stealing code.... to me that's a whole lot scarier than someone else trying to make a buck off it. Because it's either a lie.... (on his part... not yours) or someone out there is just really that fuckin' stupid..... hard to believe either way.

The fact of the matter is not the programmer who didn't realize the severity of what he was doing, it's Justin who told him to do it and then tried to sell it to Kman and others (this we have proof of).

I was simply trying to warn others in the industry about his dishonest ways. But it seems that everyone is more hung up on trying to discredit the warning.

You got any hitbotters on staff that i can hire away from you?

haha no sorry, I run a legit business.

pussy

monster

apparently you are not coherent..

am i talking about legality? im talking about a rat in our industry, and am warning you all... do i give a shit what you think? no... you've been warned.

fully coherent here.
well, they kinda go hand in hand don't they? if it wasn't a legal issue (which I wasn't really talking about either.... not sure how you gleaned that from what I said, but since we're on it now....) then there really wouldn't be a need for this thread no would there? obviously, there must be something illegal about it, or you wouldn't have bothered with this in the first place.
well thank you kind sir.
you seem upset... can't really understand why.... I haven't agreed or disagreed with anything you've said one way or the other..... I'm just astounded that it may be possible for a programmer to be so completely naive that he doesn't know when he's stealing code. Perhaps you feel I haven't given your warning enough attention or something. If that's the case, then allow me to rectify that here and now.

I, Amputate Your Head, being of sound mind and body, do hereby duly recognize and acknowledge the aforementioned "industry rat" warning.

now then... back to the programmer guy.... how is it possible, in this day and age of technology, that a programmer capable of anything higher than batch files, is able to collect the code from something and NOT know he's stealing it? Is that not somewhat intrinsic to the programming learning curve? Was he lied to? Was he under the impression that the "rat" in question was the rightful owner of the program? And if so, should he not have been asking himself why the owner of the program would not have access to the code himself? How is that particular code protected? Is it at all? I'm not familiar with UCJ.... is it open source? Did he have to hack into it to get to the code? Let's have some more details here.

damn i go get some sleep for a few hours and wake up to what looks to be hours of useless bullshit about a business deal gone wrong, or is this the wrong of a business kid??

i find it really hard to understand why "Tarpy" would have this "code" stolen but for some reason or another someone seems to think thats what it is..

in my closing here our company has did countless amounts of business with "Tarpy" and been paid very well to do so.. i would think if he was doing bad business with one he would do it with all.. and i have yet to see this out of him so until someone can provide rock solid prof. of his wrong doings and can stand before the GFY judge "Gary" and send him staright back to 3rd grade we will continue to work with him as many of the rest of you should he has alot of very great ideas and plans just has to find what he needs to make them take off and if he does watch out he'll be one of the few at the top of the business:winkwink:

Really? If thats true I guess you're gonna go to Thailand, and get the hired help there, eh?

Basically, pay some cheap labor to do the programming and mainstream for ya? Whats that called? Outsourcing?

What a fuckin tool, Tarpy owned you, and Tarpy, Im gonna use one of your quotes soon enough. =)

Funny shit, big playa. rofl..

ucj is compiled on your server with the UCJ sourcecode, then the install files are taken off the server.... you can talk about the hired programmer all you want, he is irrelevant, but apparently you dont uderstand what that word means.

precisely

Quote:

What a fuckin tool, Tarpy owned you, and Tarpy, Im gonna use one of your quotes soon enough. =)

didnt own me, this isnt my battle kid, dont you have an insurance kisok to run? hehe

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Funny shit, big playa. rofl..

whatever that means, is this a playschool convention where all the underdeveloped teenage kids like to try to get a rise out of the big tough marine guy? i love it =) can u send me some of your underwear so i can play with it at night too, would help me kill kittens thx

Yes, cause after all, delegation never happens in any other hierarchical structure (ahem, military)

Seriously, is delegation really such a big deal? As long as the work is up to snuff, do you really give a rats ass is some outsourced Russian designer did it?

Cheers,
Backov

okay hard ass...

I told you I was not familiar with UCJ, and it should be quite obvious that I'm not a programmer.... I asked you some simple questions. I don't know what your attitude is here, nor do I give a fuckin' crap.

see ya.

kman, you should have just bought the stolen script.
what's your problem?

I did.

Ahh, atleast you admit that you're a fuckin hypocrit, doing the same thing he supposedly did... =)

Insurance kiosk? I'll take that as just an attempt at some witty banter, seeing as how you've most likely never owned a house of your own, so you wouldnt know what the fuck a mortgage banker did. =)

When you actually do get the credit, and money to buy one, lemme know, I can point ya in the way of a good VA lender out there.

OH SHIT, I forgot, you'd barely have any eligibility with your 4 years of "us service".

Now that shit is funny... seriously... keep callin me kid, Im what... 4 years younger than you? Im 23, and you're...?

My kiosk must really threaten ya... =) It's okie, I'll have my house paid off by the time you get deported back here in 2 years. :)

Correct me if i'm wrong but rawpussy used to pull galleries inside frames right? The one webmasters were pissed off about? Or was that some other TGP?.. I guess I have a bad memory :(

im sorry, you're canadian, pls get an american or a zimbabwean friend to relay your messages, thx

im sorry, I am an American living in Canada.. now what exactly do I need to relay to you again? Wouldn't be what everybody else is trying to relay to you as well would it? :1orglaugh or did you want me to relay msg to you about what happens when you pull galleries inside frames that contain TGP owner's linkcodes?

For proof of Justin Eleazer's (Tarpy) wrong doings and theft of the UCJ script please feel free to email me. ONLY if you are some one that does business with him and would like to know what you are dealing with.

[email protected]

Everyone else who feels the need to just talk shit, please by all means contact him and make a deal. That way I can laugh in your face when he fucks you over and you're sitting there feeling like a dumb-ass.

:321GFY

You have a good one. =)

Hey Boneprone.. you never came by the booth
when I was there.. my guys told me that you
wanted to speak.

Although, I think we chatted for a few secs. at Scarletts..

Oh Well, Time to get ready to go to Maui on Friday.. ah, the life
of a porn webmaster.. bring the laptop and do some work..:1orglaugh

WEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....this thread is funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....

lol

I might be wrong but from what I read....the programmer kid
knew that he WAS stealing.....but he didn't know WHAT he
was stealing....nor the consequences of his actions.

So yes he knew it was source code but during the install he must
have just copied the code and handed it over. To check through
the code to see what it was would have taken too long.

If he's a kid and was told by his boss....listen kiddo do you think
you can get a hold of a copy of the stuff while he's installing..
I want to check if the guy is not cheating me.....and you will
get an icecream for it....I can imagine that the kid would agree.

If he's not familiar with the industry nor with UCJ he could easily
have underestimate the consequences of his actions.....of course
stealing is wrong.....no doubt....but some people are really good
at manipulating others.....and that seems what has happened.

DynaMite :2 cents:

I hung out with Justin in Hollywired. We broke 14 laws together in one night. Seemed like a standup guy to me .. for a pornographer.

This story doesn't make sence.
Its a mess!

Please rewrite it and publish it again.

Merci.

you're correct...

bossma justin, told his programmer to get this program when it was being installed for him.... programmer gave to justin...

justin fired programmer

justin went an solicited sale of the pirated UCJ script

it's pretty simple kiddies =)

I'm such an intelligent smart guy.....:Graucho

DynaMite