Can I weigh in with my observations?!?

it's like an ID card for WAR HAWKS.
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It's also like an ID card for left wing bleeding heart idiots

Now I give up, you are too smart for me.
And what part of Earth has the pleasure of your residency smart ass?

i don't get it
your sig doesn't work
or i don?t understand the metaphor

something pink is coming soon? :)

go for it :Graucho

giving up so soon?

now, you anon something,
i'm a citizen of Germany, half a German, half a Serb
said that several times on this board already

and although it?d took quite of the server space, i can post here my bio for you
so you can browse it looking for the separate parts you could reply on
using smart one-line smart-ass wisdom sentences

now, when you know my nationality and my place of residence
lemme hear you calling me names
like ?German nazi? or ?Serbian ethnic-cleaner?
but before that introduce yourself
if you dare

Well....it just seems like every time specific facts are asked for, these WARHAWKS just can't spit out ANY truth from their propoganda-soaked minds.

There was a huge flame war with people proclaiming "victory" for their side of this argument for a long while. However, I am still left wondering why none of the WAR HAWKS concede that a war in IRAQ means trading AMERICAN BODIES for OIL.

It's a FACT they are unwilling to concede - and by doing this they are undermining their own baseless PRO-WAR nonsense.

Why would I call you German Nazi. My father is german.
But can you help me? Who was slaughtering Serbs 60 years ago?
Americans and Canadians? Or Germans?

i do, like I do for every country. Serbians are great people and they have suffered a lot for decades. They had the support of my family and of many other familes by sending clothes and food during the war and they will have my support in the future.

MrPopup
You are confused again. Personally I dont give a fuck if they bomb Iraq or not. I can not care less.

I am glad you do:)
But there is a majority that dont.

you?re completely missing the point

so as your father is German, (?G?, not ?g?) you won?t call me German nazi
so if your father wasn?t German, you could call me that way?

ok, so you?re half a German
we could be relatives
i hope we aren?t

what about other half?
let us know
if you dare

you said ?who gives the fuck about Serbs?
i ask you why the fuck you?re jumping into discussion with a dull and hatred line like that



and regarding your last question
that?s a pathetic attempt to put me on a thin ace
you?re trying to get Americans on your side here
but you screwed it up
i have nothing against America
although Kosovo 1999 will be eternal shame in the bio of the States
if there?s should be only one superpower, USA is the best deal this world can get

i don?t care about nationalities, races and religions
but you have pulled my leg

sorry, no young east european here
with poor grammar and spelling
no easy target for small dicks hungry for attention

thank you, bro
we feel the same about your great people

What hatred you are talking about? I dont hate serbs I just dont care. About the other half, it's czech. I came here when I was 2 years old . And what are you anyway? Serb or German? And I am not talking about citizenship. I am Canadian. And I also have US passport, but dont consider myself american. You know what is great about North America. You can come over from any country of the world and you will become Canadian or American. But you can not say the same about Germany. Yes you can get the citizenship but you will never become german.

yes, we are hated by all kinds of coward and liers
and by small dicks wishing they were part of something big

when i left Berlin to fight in war
my German friends and relatives thought that i must be mad
but they have given me a full support
and have a great respect for what i did
cause they?re natural born fighters too

same with my employer
he overpaid me in advance
and said that my office is waiting for me whenever i come back

Serbs and Germans fought in both world was
and those were bloody battles

but there?s something that connects them
you can call them anything you like
but you can not ever call them cowards

there?s something that?s called pride and braveness
and that?s what?s the most important

AGain for my slow friend. I dont hate serbs ok. I just DONT CARE!

oh, wise one, teach me what?s great about North America
i've seen a half of the world, i know exactly what?s great about Canada

i agree that?s the place to be
good life and small expenses for defense thanks to big southern neighbor
and i don?t want to be sarcastic here, i really think it?s a smart deal

i didn?t come to Germany to get a citizenship
i was born in Berlin
i am both Serbian and German
know all my ancestors 10 generations back
but if i ever decide it?s too complicated i'll move to Canada
and will call myself Canadian bwahahahahhahahaaa

good, keep it that way and let's close this discussion

i've got a gallery to build =)

Fuck serbs and their dirty serbian asses

You know you live in most racist country in the world. I visit Germany very often as I have relatives there. And you know what
Germans like people from Yugoslavia just as they like turks.

those feel the same about Czechs too
they just won't tell you ;)


yea, many like to call themselves Yugoslavians when it comes to certain occasions

like they caught recently a muslim terrorist on a Swedish plane
papers say "connected with Yugoslav mafia"
while it's actually albanian mafia



drew - whosever alter nick it is,
suck my dick, you little piece of shit

hey, i made a rhyme :thumbsup

those feel the same about Czechs too
they just won't tell you ;)


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Yes I know my friend, that was my point.

Just be nice you serbian bitch or we will send few B52's and bomb your little third world shithole country back to stone age.

Let me ask you people something....

Why does Germany continually maintain this "MOST RACIST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" moniker?

I've never been there, and the glossed over mainstream news usually paints it as a simple matter of teenage skinhead angst.

So are there Germans here that can tell me why this country is consistently labelled the way it is?

And shit.... I guess solving the Serbs / Croats conflict is about as easy to solve as the Middle East.

Seems like we've got a few knowledgable people in here (along with some real dickwads)...

huggs, lub ya and peace :) i mean it




drew, you little shitty worthless skunk
i wave my dick at your aunties
die, little faggot, die :1orglaugh

I've never been there, and the glossed over mainstream news usually paints it as a simple matter of teenage skinhead angst.

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Maybe you should go there. Dont get me wrong, they are very nice people if you are a tourist. Just dont be imigrant from some african country.

Great. I guess tolerance for racism is a wonderful trait in Germany.

I think that's one country I'll skip thank you very much.

Dont you have some Cluster Bombs to pick? I can see that Depleted Uranium from our bombs had effect on your brain.

I thought this was pretty accurate thread about AMERICA. Even its former presidents distrust the Dubbya Administration. And just think, some of you still want to attack Iraq. How pathetic.


[B] The Troubling New Face of America[\B]

By Jimmy Carter
Thursday, September 5, 2002; Page A31

Fundamental changes are taking place in the historical policies of the United States with regard to human rights, our role in the community of nations and the Middle East peace process -- largely without definitive debates (except, at times, within the administration). Some new approaches have understandably evolved from quick and well-advised reactions by President Bush to the tragedy of Sept. 11, but others seem to be developing from a core group of conservatives who are trying to realize long-pent-up ambitions under the cover of the proclaimed war against terrorism.

Formerly admired almost universally as the preeminent champion of human rights, our country has become the foremost target of respected international organizations concerned about these basic principles of democratic life. We have ignored or condoned abuses in nations that support our anti-terrorism effort, while detaining American citizens as "enemy combatants," incarcerating them secretly and indefinitely without their being charged with any crime or having the right to legal counsel. This policy has been condemned by the federal courts, but the Justice Department seems adamant, and the issue is still in doubt. Several hundred captured Taliban soldiers remain imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay under the same circumstances, with the defense secretary declaring that they would not be released even if they were someday tried and found to be innocent. These actions are similar to those of abusive regimes that historically have been condemned by American presidents.

While the president has reserved judgment, the American people are inundated almost daily with claims from the vice president and other top officials that we face a devastating threat from Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, and with pledges to remove Saddam Hussein from office, with or without support from any allies. As has been emphasized vigorously by foreign allies and by responsible leaders of former administrations and incumbent officeholders, there is no current danger to the United States from Baghdad. In the face of intense monitoring and overwhelming American military superiority, any belligerent move by Hussein against a neighbor, even the smallest nuclear test (necessary before weapons construction), a tangible threat to use a weapon of mass destruction, or sharing this technology with terrorist organizations would be suicidal. But it is quite possible that such weapons would be used against Israel or our forces in response to an American attack.

We cannot ignore the development of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, but a unilateral war with Iraq is not the answer. There is an urgent need for U.N. action to force unrestricted inspections in Iraq. But perhaps deliberately so, this has become less likely as we alienate our necessary allies. Apparently disagreeing with the president and secretary of state, in fact, the vice president has now discounted this goal as a desirable option.

We have thrown down counterproductive gauntlets to the rest of the world, disavowing U.S. commitments to laboriously negotiated international accords.

Peremptory rejections of nuclear arms agreements, the biological weapons convention, environmental protection, anti-torture proposals, and punishment of war criminals have sometimes been combined with economic threats against those who might disagree with us. These unilateral acts and assertions increasingly isolate the United States from the very nations needed to join in combating terrorism.

Tragically, our government is abandoning any sponsorship of substantive negotiations between Palestinians and Israelis. Our apparent policy is to support almost every Israeli action in the occupied territories and to condemn and isolate the Palestinians as blanket targets of our war on terrorism, while Israeli settlements expand and Palestinian enclaves shrink.

There still seems to be a struggle within the administration over defining a comprehensible Middle East policy. The president's clear commitments to honor key U.N. resolutions and to support the establishment of a Palestinian state have been substantially negated by statements of the defense secretary that in his lifetime "there will be some sort of an entity that will be established" and his reference to the "so-called occupation." This indicates a radical departure from policies of every administration since 1967, always based on the withdrawal of Israel from occupied territories and a genuine peace between Israelis and their neighbors.

Belligerent and divisive voices now seem to be dominant in Washington, but they do not yet reflect final decisions of the president, Congress or the courts. It is crucial that the historical and well-founded American commitments prevail: to peace, justice, human rights, the environment and international cooperation.

Former president Carter is chairman of the Carter Center in Atlanta

You certainly talk about dicks alot. You obviously love the cock.


Your above comment and many of your other comments are both condescending and assinine, and smack more of a junior high schoolyard than an adult forum. Tell me why I should debate someone who lacks the class to speak even semi-maturely?


Serbs showed themselves to be invaders. You yourself mention what a criminal Milosevich was, yet the Serbs CHOSE to follow that criminal, that mental case. You caused major upset in the world, and for that the Serbs paid the price, and if there is more price to pay I hope they are made to pay that too. There is never an excuse for raping, killing children, slaughtering people and driving them to run for their lives like the Serbs did in Kosovo. It took me all of about one month back in the early 90's to decide that Milosevich was a fucking asshole, yet the Serbs followed him like sheep. Well, you reap what you sow sheep boy.

And no, it is not about oil. You may think it's about oil, but in Iraq's case it isn't. How much oil does the US get from Iraq these days? Tell me, I'm dying to know. Does Iraq somehow regulat the oil the US receives from the rest of the Middle East? If so, show us your proof. What? No proof? Then shut the fuck up.

My reason for supporting some positive action against Iraq is that
1) Since the gulf war, Iraq has continually given a hard time to US weapons inspectors, even after Saddam had agreed to these conditions after losing the gulf war.
2) Saddam has proven time and again that he can't be trusted, too numerous instances to name. Hiding undeclared weapons, etc etc.
3) Iraq has been stockpiling weapons of mass destruction, and seeking out sources of even deadlier weapons, this is no longer a secret.

As I've said before, the FOOLISH thing to do would be to ignore this growing threat. Part of me would love to take the road recommended by many here and do nothing, have the US continue to *negotiate* with Saddam, but I am quite sure that will lead to quite a few hundred-thousand lives being lost eventually when he pulls his next big stunt. No, the time to go in and remove this threat is upon us, and the only country with the military might and resources to do it is the US.

If the serbs don't like it, tough shit.
If the germans don't like it, tough shit.
If anyone doesn't like it, tough shit.

It will very likely be for your own good in the long run. Having a nutbar like Saddam in possession of nukes and biological weapons and allowing him to operate freely with them is insane. Are you insane?

now i wish i haven?t posted the reply my cousin sent me and asked to post it here
let him fight his own board wars

go back to his original post
and reply if you like
i think that answers on your questions above are there

he?s got enough of money and free time
and can afford to waste his time on clarifying things and exposing lies
or, if you like it better this way - can afford to waste his time on expressing his own opinions

personally i think that those efforts are useless
the first victim of war is always the truth
and history has been always written by the winners
but do not forget that the victory has many shapes and sides

i'm out of this discussion
a got a gallery to build =))
let him register and go on if he wants
keyboard fights really aren?t my style

Ahh, yer CUZIN did it eh? That old excuse. Classic. Nor are they your strong suit.

Cheers.