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Old 07-13-2007, 02:21 PM   #1
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FIREFOX is the worst browser!!! for making websites

My site works absolutely perfect in ie5,6,7 but is all fucked up in firefox that browser blows
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:23 PM   #2
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Yeah, it's the browser's fault. Definitely.
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sometimes my blog pages look weird in FireFox and fine in IE. Its nothing major but it gets on my nerves sometimes.
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Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

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build for compliant browsers, hack for IE
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Yah, IE is too lenient.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:35 PM   #9
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My site works absolutely perfect in ie5,6,7 but is all fucked up in firefox that browser blows
yes it's because you write shitty code...

otherwise you would have the opposite problem.

Firefox actually likes validated code
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Err....

that's not right, you need 3 different stylesheets normally.

1 main stylesheet.
1 for IE6 hacks.
1 for IE7 hacks.

That's also the case with 100% validated code.
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Yah, IE is too lenient.
So what's wrong with being lenient? The whole idea is for the sites to work. If they can work in IE.. then WTF can't Fire Fox get their shit together.

I can't stand FF just because of that.
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Err....

that's not right, you need 3 different stylesheets normally.

1 main stylesheet.
1 for IE6 hacks.
1 for IE7 hacks.

That's also the case with 100% validated code.
I agree, honestlly it's BS
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:49 PM   #13
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I'm not gonna worry about it right now about i get very small amount of traffic that use firefox anyway its a local website. Most use ie 6 or 7.

It was a script i bought that thousands use its really good i just did some mods to it. So if i see more people using firefox ill hire someone to clean up the code for me.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:51 PM   #14
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Firefox is pretty strict, but everything works well. IE is forgiving, but makes shit up by itself. If you build a site for IE, you likely didn't write valid CSS and html.

Wordpress blog designs often look stupid in Firefox, because people wrote to the non standards of IE and never checked.
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i have made 500+ sites ie+mozilla+other compliant over the last 5 years, and NEVER have i ever had to use any "hack" css.

Anyone who thinks they need it is completely looking at it wrong and most likely doing it WAY more difficult then it needs to be.

the moment you are fiddling with _styles and -margins/paddings you are doing something wrong in the original code.

There IS always a good solution wich doesnt need it that works in all 3 main browsers.
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Cause IE isnt wc3 compliant as has been said.
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Go download Seamonkey and save a version of the page in its composer, this will help.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:29 PM   #19
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My CSS sites work fine in IE and FF, learn how to write proper html/css - the correct way, and not the way the editors or some dumb book tells you. Period & Fact!

You do not need multi style sheets, you only need to know what you are doing.
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here my mainstream blog is working perfect on firefox but suck very much on IE

do anyone can help me out with the IE issue? it depend of the version some work well so dont
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Every day more people are using Firefox, and I've been seeing large percentages on my sites which involve streaming and high bandwidth type stuff. So it's important to be FF ready even if you're not seeing the FF traffic yet, you will.

Make your code work for FF and they'll work for everything else. There are some nice CSS plugins that let you pretty much WYSIWYG in the FF browser, too.
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Nope.

I have a site that validates with the W3C validator and my browser validator with no errors and in firefox I get a horizontal scrollbar and in IE it's not there. I used to think exactly the same thing, until this started happening.

I'm obviously working on the problem and recoding from scratch, but it proves that validation is not the "be all" answer when it comes to cross browser compatibility.
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here my mainstream blog is working perfect on firefox but suck very much on IE

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when I saw your url it made me think it must be a political blog a la Parti Quebecois
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I wouldn't worry about firefox. Surfers who matter don't use it and those few fanboys who don't know any better... screw them.
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i have made 500+ sites ie+mozilla+other compliant over the last 5 years, and NEVER have i ever had to use any "hack" css.

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when I saw your url it made me think it must be a political blog a la Parti Quebecois

no im trying to built a blog for partying in and around quebec
only a few mouth oonline and is pr3 traffic growoing everydays!
my blog getting more and more traffic from google!
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Yes waste time writing for the 15% that use a stupid browser. Time=MONEY. Unless that 15% is going to pay for the extra time spent writing because they are so anal instead of using a browser that works just fine FUCK FIREFOX AND THIER CULT USERS!
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Yes waste time writing for the 15% that use a stupid browser. Time=MONEY. Unless that 15% is going to pay for the extra time spent writing because they are so anal instead of using a browser that works just fine FUCK FIREFOX AND THIER CULT USERS!
That's retarded. Time may equal money but so does quality.
Your customers are looking at your website. Make it work.
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That's retarded. Time may equal money but so does quality.
Your customers are looking at your website. Make it work.

Sites work just fine in IE they can use that. They just want to be assholes.

FireFox users probally like Macs, Linux and hate everything Microsoft except for some strange reason they love the XBOX 360. So that shows how retarded they are.
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Sites work just fine in IE they can use that. They just want to be assholes.

FireFox users probally like Macs, Linux and hate everything Microsoft except for some strange reason they love the XBOX 360. So that shows how retarded they are.
It's called having pride in your work. Taking that extra care to do things properly so that it just works.

It's like hand crafted architecture. It always looks better, it always lasts longer, it always works better.

You don't get the best results by making something work, sort of, for some stuff.
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It's called having pride in your work. Taking that extra care to do things properly so that it just works.

It's like hand crafted architecture. It always looks better, it always lasts longer, it always works better.

You don't get the best results by making something work, sort of, for some stuff.
Ok Mr Snootypants. Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your wasted time.
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Ok Mr Snootypants. Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your wasted time.
It's not wasted time when you know how to do it right in the first place. Infact, things work WAY faster when you have it all fit standards in the first place.
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Riiiight. Fact is that ther are some site you can tell that design for FireFox because they wlook shitty on IE. So I don't see those peole deisgning sites for IE. They are just turning away 80% or more of the people out there. Not too bright if you ask me. If I'm going to design for just one browswer I'm choosing the one MOST people use. Not design for one because I'm trying to force people to use FireFox.
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FireFox users probally like Macs, Linux and hate everything Microsoft except for some strange reason they love the XBOX 360. So that shows how retarded they are.
Amen, my friend. Retarded firefox fanboys are even more annoying than Mac fanboys. It's always hilarious to watch them get all pissy and shit when fighting their holy war in the name of their holy grail of a piece of shit internet browser. Stuck up retards with heads up their asses. Every time the same. Don't you dare say a bad word about firefox or you get them jump down your throat like flies on a pile of pooh. Fucking retards...
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that's not right, you need 3 different stylesheets normally.

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That's also the case with 100% validated code.
You forgot to mention FF hacks? or does FF actually work the way it's supposed to?
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It's like hand crafted architecture. It always looks better, it always lasts longer, it always works better.

You don't get the best results by making something work, sort of, for some stuff.
Sorry dude but i take pride in my site and want it to be very successful. I get very minimal people using firefox like 15-30 hit a month thats it. I get around 1200-1300 uniques a month most use ie. IE has been the dominant browser for a long time and thats all i care about. Like someone else said fuck firefox. Once i notice the amount of firefox users growing ill take care of it but now im not worried about it.
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:19 PM   #49
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Hilarious thread. Fire Fox has an awesome web dev plug in, while I use IE, FF reads code properly. IE is the browser thats retarded when interpreting code.

Never the less, hilarious post.
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:49 PM   #50
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So what's wrong with being lenient? The whole idea is for the sites to work. If they can work in IE.. then WTF can't Fire Fox get their shit together.

I can't stand FF just because of that.
Are you an airhead?

Bill Gates is the fucktard who fucked everything up...

He is the reason why DOS/Windows uses \ instead of the industry standard / when referencing a directory.

He is the reason files you save in notepad are all fucked up on every other system in the world.

He is the reason IE doesn't conform to CSS rules...

You are a fucking sheep and you have been showing it a lot lately.
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