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eddie-executive 07-13-2007 02:21 PM

FIREFOX is the worst browser!!! for making websites
 
My site works absolutely perfect in ie5,6,7 but is all fucked up in firefox that browser blows:321GFY

who 07-13-2007 02:23 PM

Yeah, it's the browser's fault. Definitely.

Steve Awesome 07-13-2007 02:23 PM

Send me the URL and I'll tell you what you did wrong.

IllTestYourGirls 07-13-2007 02:24 PM

sometimes my blog pages look weird in FireFox and fine in IE. Its nothing major but it gets on my nerves sometimes.

facialfreak 07-13-2007 02:25 PM

Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

Just my :2 cents:

Lycanthrope 07-13-2007 02:26 PM

build for compliant browsers, hack for IE

uno 07-13-2007 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 12757125)
Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

Just my :2 cents:

Yah, IE is too lenient.

who 07-13-2007 02:27 PM

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...h_Internat.jpg

polle54 07-13-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie-executive (Post 12757097)
My site works absolutely perfect in ie5,6,7 but is all fucked up in firefox that browser blows:321GFY

yes it's because you write shitty code...

otherwise you would have the opposite problem.

Firefox actually likes validated code :)

polle54 07-13-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 12757125)
Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

Just my :2 cents:

Err....

that's not right, you need 3 different stylesheets normally.

1 main stylesheet.
1 for IE6 hacks.
1 for IE7 hacks.

That's also the case with 100% validated code.

crockett 07-13-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 12757135)
Yah, IE is too lenient.

So what's wrong with being lenient? The whole idea is for the sites to work. If they can work in IE.. then WTF can't Fire Fox get their shit together.

I can't stand FF just because of that.

crockett 07-13-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 12757187)
Err....

that's not right, you need 3 different stylesheets normally.

1 main stylesheet.
1 for IE6 hacks.
1 for IE7 hacks.

That's also the case with 100% validated code.

I agree, honestlly it's BS

eddie-executive 07-13-2007 02:49 PM

I'm not gonna worry about it right now about i get very small amount of traffic that use firefox anyway its a local website. Most use ie 6 or 7.

It was a script i bought that thousands use its really good i just did some mods to it. So if i see more people using firefox ill hire someone to clean up the code for me.

RawAlex 07-13-2007 02:51 PM

Firefox is pretty strict, but everything works well. IE is forgiving, but makes shit up by itself. If you build a site for IE, you likely didn't write valid CSS and html.

Wordpress blog designs often look stupid in Firefox, because people wrote to the non standards of IE and never checked.

21clicks 07-13-2007 02:54 PM

i have made 500+ sites ie+mozilla+other compliant over the last 5 years, and NEVER have i ever had to use any "hack" css.

Anyone who thinks they need it is completely looking at it wrong and most likely doing it WAY more difficult then it needs to be.

the moment you are fiddling with _styles and -margins/paddings you are doing something wrong in the original code.

There IS always a good solution wich doesnt need it that works in all 3 main browsers.

stickyfingerz 07-13-2007 02:55 PM

Cause IE isnt wc3 compliant as has been said.

digifan 07-13-2007 02:56 PM

Go download Seamonkey and save a version of the page in its composer, this will help.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

teg0 07-13-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope (Post 12757130)
build for compliant browsers, hack for IE

Exactly. Thats all there is to say.

Violetta 07-13-2007 03:29 PM

You should read some books about internet standards.


Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 12757102)
Yeah, it's the browser's fault. Definitely.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Z 07-13-2007 03:43 PM

I won't use anything but firefox...fuck IE

Axarsys 07-13-2007 03:56 PM

Well, you got you answer...now get coding!

TheDoc 07-13-2007 04:09 PM

My CSS sites work fine in IE and FF, learn how to write proper html/css - the correct way, and not the way the editors or some dumb book tells you. Period & Fact!

You do not need multi style sheets, you only need to know what you are doing.

TTiger 07-13-2007 04:19 PM

here my mainstream blog is working perfect on firefox but suck very much on IE

do anyone can help me out with the IE issue? it depend of the version some work well so dont:(
www.quebecparty.com

ARS Bryan 07-13-2007 04:29 PM

I hate Firefox yet I use it everyday. I just can't seem to kick the habit :(

StuartD 07-13-2007 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12757743)
My CSS sites work fine in IE and FF, learn how to write proper html/css - the correct way, and not the way the editors or some dumb book tells you. Period & Fact!

You do not need multi style sheets, you only need to know what you are doing.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=750159

MattO 07-13-2007 04:49 PM

Every day more people are using Firefox, and I've been seeing large percentages on my sites which involve streaming and high bandwidth type stuff. So it's important to be FF ready even if you're not seeing the FF traffic yet, you will.

Make your code work for FF and they'll work for everything else. There are some nice CSS plugins that let you pretty much WYSIWYG in the FF browser, too.

Iron Fist 07-13-2007 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 12757125)
Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

Just my :2 cents:

Nope.

I have a site that validates with the W3C validator and my browser validator with no errors and in firefox I get a horizontal scrollbar and in IE it's not there. I used to think exactly the same thing, until this started happening.

I'm obviously working on the problem and recoding from scratch, but it proves that validation is not the "be all" answer when it comes to cross browser compatibility.

d-null 07-13-2007 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTiger (Post 12757801)
here my mainstream blog is working perfect on firefox but suck very much on IE

do anyone can help me out with the IE issue? it depend of the version some work well so dont:(
www.quebecparty.com


when I saw your url it made me think it must be a political blog a la Parti Quebecois :1orglaugh

pornask 07-13-2007 05:26 PM

I wouldn't worry about firefox. Surfers who matter don't use it and those few fanboys who don't know any better... screw them.

D 07-13-2007 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 12757102)
Yeah, it's the browser's fault. Definitely.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

potter 07-13-2007 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 12757125)
Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

Just my :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 21clicks (Post 12757290)
i have made 500+ sites ie+mozilla+other compliant over the last 5 years, and NEVER have i ever had to use any "hack" css.

Anyone who thinks they need it is completely looking at it wrong and most likely doing it WAY more difficult then it needs to be.

the moment you are fiddling with _styles and -margins/paddings you are doing something wrong in the original code.

There IS always a good solution wich doesnt need it that works in all 3 main browsers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12757743)
My CSS sites work fine in IE and FF, learn how to write proper html/css - the correct way, and not the way the editors or some dumb book tells you. Period & Fact!

You do not need multi style sheets, you only need to know what you are doing.

Word Word and Word! Anyone who says otherwise is doing something wrong.

TTiger 07-13-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 12758149)
when I saw your url it made me think it must be a political blog a la Parti Quebecois :1orglaugh


no im trying to built a blog for partying in and around quebec:winkwink:
only a few mouth oonline and is pr3 traffic growoing everydays!
my blog getting more and more traffic from google!

Barefootsies 07-13-2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 12757125)
Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

Just my :2 cents:

Exactly.

:disgust

GatorB 07-13-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 12757125)
Learn how to write proper VALIDATED HTML AND CSS, and your site will look the exact same in every browser.

Just my :2 cents:


Yes waste time writing for the 15% that use a stupid browser. Time=MONEY. Unless that 15% is going to pay for the extra time spent writing because they are so anal instead of using a browser that works just fine FUCK FIREFOX AND THIER CULT USERS!

StuartD 07-13-2007 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12758427)
Yes waste time writing for the 15% that use a stupid browser. Time=MONEY. Unless that 15% is going to pay for the extra time spent writing because they are so anal instead of using a browser that works just fine FUCK FIREFOX AND THIER CULT USERS!

That's retarded. Time may equal money but so does quality.
Your customers are looking at your website. Make it work.

Mr. Mojo Risin 07-13-2007 06:29 PM

I hate the way sites look in Firefox

GatorB 07-13-2007 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12758439)
That's retarded. Time may equal money but so does quality.
Your customers are looking at your website. Make it work.


Sites work just fine in IE they can use that. They just want to be assholes.

FireFox users probally like Macs, Linux and hate everything Microsoft except for some strange reason they love the XBOX 360. So that shows how retarded they are.

StuartD 07-13-2007 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12758450)
Sites work just fine in IE they can use that. They just want to be assholes.

FireFox users probally like Macs, Linux and hate everything Microsoft except for some strange reason they love the XBOX 360. So that shows how retarded they are.

It's called having pride in your work. Taking that extra care to do things properly so that it just works.

It's like hand crafted architecture. It always looks better, it always lasts longer, it always works better.

You don't get the best results by making something work, sort of, for some stuff.

EdgeXXX 07-13-2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 12757102)
Yeah, it's the browser's fault. Definitely.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

TeenCat 07-13-2007 06:35 PM

no no no man! ... did you ever checked it in ms paintbrush?

GatorB 07-13-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12758455)
It's called having pride in your work. Taking that extra care to do things properly so that it just works.

It's like hand crafted architecture. It always looks better, it always lasts longer, it always works better.

You don't get the best results by making something work, sort of, for some stuff.

Ok Mr Snootypants. Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your wasted time.

StuartD 07-13-2007 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12758463)
Ok Mr Snootypants. Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your wasted time.

It's not wasted time when you know how to do it right in the first place. Infact, things work WAY faster when you have it all fit standards in the first place.

shekinah 07-13-2007 06:40 PM

Well for me who opens many tabs... I'll stick to FF!:thumbsup

GatorB 07-13-2007 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12758464)
It's not wasted time when you know how to do it right in the first place. Infact, things work WAY faster when you have it all fit standards in the first place.


Riiiight. Fact is that ther are some site you can tell that design for FireFox because they wlook shitty on IE. So I don't see those peole deisgning sites for IE. They are just turning away 80% or more of the people out there. Not too bright if you ask me. If I'm going to design for just one browswer I'm choosing the one MOST people use. Not design for one because I'm trying to force people to use FireFox.

pornask 07-13-2007 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12758450)
Sites work just fine in IE they can use that. They just want to be assholes.

FireFox users probally like Macs, Linux and hate everything Microsoft except for some strange reason they love the XBOX 360. So that shows how retarded they are.

Amen, my friend. Retarded firefox fanboys are even more annoying than Mac fanboys. It's always hilarious to watch them get all pissy and shit when fighting their holy war in the name of their holy grail of a piece of shit internet browser. Stuck up retards with heads up their asses. Every time the same. Don't you dare say a bad word about firefox or you get them jump down your throat like flies on a pile of pooh. Fucking retards...

GatorB 07-13-2007 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shekinah (Post 12758474)
Well for me who opens many tabs... I'll stick to FF!:thumbsup

IE and Opera both have tabs Einstien.

woj 07-13-2007 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 12757187)
Err....

that's not right, you need 3 different stylesheets normally.

1 main stylesheet.
1 for IE6 hacks.
1 for IE7 hacks.

That's also the case with 100% validated code.

You forgot to mention FF hacks? or does FF actually work the way it's supposed to?

eddie-executive 07-13-2007 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12758455)
It's called having pride in your work. Taking that extra care to do things properly so that it just works.

It's like hand crafted architecture. It always looks better, it always lasts longer, it always works better.

You don't get the best results by making something work, sort of, for some stuff.

Sorry dude but i take pride in my site and want it to be very successful. I get very minimal people using firefox like 15-30 hit a month thats it. I get around 1200-1300 uniques a month most use ie. IE has been the dominant browser for a long time and thats all i care about. Like someone else said fuck firefox. Once i notice the amount of firefox users growing ill take care of it but now im not worried about it.

Ninja_Pete 07-13-2007 07:19 PM

Hilarious thread. Fire Fox has an awesome web dev plug in, while I use IE, FF reads code properly. IE is the browser thats retarded when interpreting code. :thumbsup

Never the less, hilarious post.

V_RocKs 07-13-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12757188)
So what's wrong with being lenient? The whole idea is for the sites to work. If they can work in IE.. then WTF can't Fire Fox get their shit together.

I can't stand FF just because of that.

Are you an airhead?

Bill Gates is the fucktard who fucked everything up...

He is the reason why DOS/Windows uses \ instead of the industry standard / when referencing a directory.

He is the reason files you save in notepad are all fucked up on every other system in the world.

He is the reason IE doesn't conform to CSS rules...

You are a fucking sheep and you have been showing it a lot lately.


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