Who sells B/G scenes for 400$ exclusive? - GoFuckYourself.com

Peace · 07-03-2007, 02:57 PM

I got few webamsters recently telling me that they buy hard core scenes for 400$ exclusive..How is that possible?

When cost is

Russia

VideoGuy 100
Model 250
Studio 170
Make up 50
Procressing 50

Total 620$

Same would be in Chezh and Hungary or even 1.5 times more

So how is that possible. if that was i guy buy 3 guys are asking me to shoot for 400$ What is going on?

AaronM · 07-03-2007, 03:00 PM

I could sell it for that...no way in hell I would though.

There are people with lower overhead and more creative ways of doing business who are also starving for business and will take whatever they can get.

In all honesty...I have done hardcore exclusive for that price in the past. Probably one of the dumbest mistakes I have ever made in this business....BUT....It was also on a bulk deal where the client was taking 3 to 6 scenes with the same models.

Still...Pretty fucking stupid of me.

Oracle Porn · 07-03-2007, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

I got few webamsters recently telling me that they buy hard core scenes for 400$ exclusive..How is that possible?

When cost is

Russia

VideoGuy 100
Model 250
Studio 170
Make up 50
Procressing 50

Total 620$

Same would be in Chezh and Hungary or even 1.5 times more

So how is that possible. if that was i guy buy 3 guys are asking me to shoot for 400$ What is going on?

probebly

videoguy - 150
girl - 100
guy - 50

fuck, film...bye bye.

Jensen · 07-03-2007, 03:03 PM

could be dumping the price to get a few contracts... tons of companies losing money daily just to keep up

J. Falcon · 07-03-2007, 03:06 PM

could just be low quality shit

Peace · 07-03-2007, 03:07 PM

so content worth nothing nowdays. Waiting for Paul Markham to come and explain everything to me. I think he would know exactly what is up.

AaronM · 07-03-2007, 03:08 PM

For what it's worth....Any client who is that cheap is not worth shooting for. They will end up being a HUGE pain in the ass and demanding more out of you for less.

Peace · 07-03-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

could just be low quality shit

I guess it is.....I just wonder can i show site of the customer who said he buys for 400 so guys could see content for 400$.

It is pretty good thouth

Jimmy Rock · 07-03-2007, 03:09 PM

you should never sell for that amount, too many guys out there seeling scenes for that cheap and it screws up all photographers pricing out there. don;t even worry about it, stick to your prices with a profit you are comfortable with and stick to your guns!

Peace · 07-03-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

For what it's worth....Any client who is that cheap is not worth shooting for. They will end up being a HUGE pain in the ass and demanding more out of you for less.

AaronM man you are so right. People with discountgyzm in they head are contegious. They are pian in the ass and they never pay on time..

AaronM · 07-03-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Rock

......stick to your prices with a profit you are comfortable with and stick to your guns!

J. Falcon · 07-03-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

For what it's worth....Any client who is that cheap is not worth shooting for. They will end up being a HUGE pain in the ass and demanding more out of you for less.

That is 100% true for practically any business in any industry.

AaronM · 07-03-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace

AaronM man you are so right. People with discountgyzm in they head are contegious. They are pian in the ass and they never pay on time..

I never had the late payment issue since I have my clients pay 100% up front, but I have had some issues with clients being a huge pain.

Oddly enough, most well funded and professional clients never complain about the price or try to negotiate down. They never bitch about the work because they know exactly what they are getting, they order regularly, and are a pleasure to work with.

ultimatebbwdotcom · 07-03-2007, 03:18 PM

Skanky ho: Dime bag
Smelly vagrant: 6 pack of 10% vol Beer
Videographer with Parkinsons $10.

You get what you pay for and unless you've seen the guys work and its good (and he agrees to shoot the same quality) you might be in for some lower quality content.

Maybe you can just pay after you've seen it lol

Arab_Sex · 07-03-2007, 03:36 PM

400? are you insane? i only pay 200

american pervert · 07-03-2007, 03:43 PM

I cant possibly shoot a scene for less than $3500 here in l.a.

everestcash · 07-03-2007, 03:50 PM

I'm pretty sure that photographers who sell that cheap use the same models to shoot a few more scenes in the same apartment. so the video or pictures you buy may be exclusive but chances are high later you will find very similar looking content on some other site.

just a punk · 07-03-2007, 04:07 PM

I'm buying exclusive B/G packages (pics+video) for $400

Lykos · 07-03-2007, 04:31 PM

There is no minimal chances that video guy is $100,either make-up $50,or even girl in Russia for $250..... except for girl...those are prices in EU...as far as i know,lot of my friends shots for much less money then that in Russia,lol
To sell sceene a $400 hardcore...sorry not posible..only model in Hungary,Czech where i mostly shot is minimal $400 + 20% agency fee....more often 500-700$ per model only.... Video guy can do it for $50 and make-up for $30...location as super luxury villa is like $500 per day..so when u shot 5 or so sceenes it came to $100 per sceene for location...
so nope...we sell HC sceene for $1000-1800 depends on model,location etc...
no one works for coca-cola,lol

VIPimp · 07-03-2007, 04:44 PM

I've bought for that price from producers outside the USA and I've bought from producers within the USA that charge more than 4 times that and produce for some of the largest sites. One of these producers that shoots for the biggest sites, delivered me the content months after the promised time, and the quality was if not the same but worst than the lower priced non-usa producer's I use. The only downside being the non-usa models usually dont speak full english.

AaronM · 07-03-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert

I cant possibly shoot a scene for less than $3500 here in l.a.

Bullshit.

I've shot hardcore in LA for a fraction of that.

Lykos · 07-03-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Bullshit.

I've shot hardcore in LA for a fraction of that.

Agree with you...$3500 a sceene?lol... maybe Jenna Jameson and Rocco Sifredi in best days,some penthouse,pro make-ups wich works for pro movies...pro equipment for pro movies..hmmm..not even then

american pervert · 07-03-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Bullshit.

I've shot hardcore in LA for a fraction of that.

location $400/scene
make up $125/girl
girl- $1000
guy- $600
still photographer- $300
agent fees $150
camera man- $300
food, water $50

ok maybe less than $3500, but still it aint cheap here.. some guys i use are $700-800 and the girls get $1200 for anal

american pervert · 07-03-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Bullshit.

I've shot hardcore in LA for a fraction of that.

video??? love to see it, as long as its not in a hotel room

american pervert · 07-03-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert

location $400/scene
make up $125/girl
girl- $1000
guy- $600
still photographer- $300
agent fees $150
camera man- $300
food, water $50

ok maybe less than $3500, but still it aint cheap here.. some guys i use are $700-800 and the girls get $1200 for anal

forgot to add that sometimes its worth it to add a set dresser ($500 scene/set) and also rent props

but then again, i want to make my shit look good....

p0rnus · 07-03-2007, 07:32 PM

There are girls around here (hot too) that'll do it for $100.

with a good camera, a hung buddy, and adobe premiere

I can see it

Digipimp · 07-03-2007, 07:33 PM

all depends on where you're at and what your game is. $400 seems low to be selling for, but you could definitely make them for that in the right places with the right people still, but its getting harder to do because big name places pay girls so much in part just to drive prices up and some girls think that 2 days into the adult business their pussy is worth $5000.

Jim_Gunn · 07-03-2007, 07:37 PM

Pornus, I am short car or plane ride away in South Florida, send me some of those hot $100 girls and I'll make it worth your while, he he.

These prices crack me up. I wouldn't film a hardcore scene where I made as little as $400 *profit*, much less charge for the service in total.

Snake Doctor · 07-03-2007, 08:12 PM

I bought some stuff at bargain basement prices before, the quality was absolutely horrid and I had to throw the content away.

I'm not saying that more expensive content is necessarily better, but I don't see how anyone can do $400 unless they live in a location where they only have to pay the model $50.

billywatson · 07-03-2007, 08:28 PM

This is the funniest thread I've read in a long time.

VIPimp · 07-03-2007, 08:48 PM

lol...

I am in the Bay Area, California... and know plenty of girls that will do hardcore scenes for $250.
Makeup would cost $0, they can do their own.
And these would be with fresh girls, not seen all over the place. and yes they are hot.
Camera man = $0 (me). male model max $100. location: $0 (home or office)

If I can produce scenes for $400 in the bay area, then there is no reason why someone outside of the USA can not shoot for that price.

And yes I have took a stab at shooting content in the past, and these prices are possible. Especially when you shoot the model for multiple scenes in 1 day.

Jim_Gunn · 07-03-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp

lol...

If I can produce scenes for $400 in the bay area, then there is no reason why someone outside of the USA can not shoot for that price.

One reason would be that someone couldn't possibly make a living that way. Sure, it is possible to film some scenes on the cheap using some inexpensive local amateur girls, and your male friend fucking her on your couch in your own condo or house, that might come to a grand total of a few hundred bucks budget.

But try doing that week in and week out. You'll never get enough models for that price to sustain more than a few shoots. And forget make a living at it and producing top notch content reliably.

american pervert · 07-03-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp

lol...

I am in the Bay Area, California... and know plenty of girls that will do hardcore scenes for $250.
Makeup would cost $0, they can do their own.
And these would be with fresh girls, not seen all over the place. and yes they are hot.
Camera man = $0 (me). male model max $100. location: $0 (home or office)

If I can produce scenes for $400 in the bay area, then there is no reason why someone outside of the USA can not shoot for that price.

And yes I have took a stab at shooting content in the past, and these prices are possible. Especially when you shoot the model for multiple scenes in 1 day.

i always hire a makeup person, you cant trust these girls to do their own makeup. I have met very few who can

amacontent · 07-03-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Bullshit.

I've shot hardcore in LA for a fraction of that.

Yeah I charge $2700/$2800 for anal hardcore exclusive. I dont know how $3500 exclusive is possible for 1 guy 1 girl

Paul Markham · 07-04-2007, 10:26 PM

Boy girl can be shot for $400. Using female models who can't find work, a mate to do the stud work and shooting it yourself. It is possible. The question over how much you sell it for has little to nothing to do with the price you sell it for.

You can shoot a scene that costs $40 and is worth $4,000, and yes I have done it, and you can shoot a scene costing $4,000 that is worth $40. Not done the last one but got close to it once.

The factor that determines the sale price is the value of the end product and not what it costs to produce. Every week I get someone trying to sell me boy girl videos for what ever price I will pay. They send me samples and bother me all the time. The last one was awful. It was not "Amateur" it was crap. Sorry if that sounds arrogant, but it's true.

I will buy all the decent boy girl movies anyone can shoot for $400. I can sell them all the time for 1,000 Euros to the DVD companies plus leave myself with Internet rights. Problem is no one who can shoot decent content will sell it for $400 or even $1,000.

Gary_TLX · 07-05-2007, 12:36 AM

I seriously doubt there are producers who produce decent quality b/g scenes for $400. Yes, they might produce total crap for that, but then whoever buys them is making a mistake. If I'm wrong, and there really are producers making good quality exclusive b/g scenes for $400, then they really need to work on their marketing strategies.

Peace · 07-05-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary_CSI

I seriously doubt there are producers who produce decent quality b/g scenes for $400. Yes, they might produce total crap for that, but then whoever buys them is making a mistake. If I'm wrong, and there really are producers making good quality exclusive b/g scenes for $400, then they really need to work on their marketing strategies.

Right I agree. Can make good stuff for cheap. Nothing is Cheap nowdays anymore

Mr. Cool Ice · 07-05-2007, 10:07 PM

Easy, you are being lied to and it's not exclusive. NOBODY is going to sell anything that's worth anything for $400 exclusive. If they do, you are getting fucked somehow.

You couldn't even get me to answer the phone or get out of bed for only $400.

SleazyDream · 07-05-2007, 10:20 PM

individual - no - some custom bulk LARGE orders with ugly girls - maybe.

Sebastian Sands · 07-05-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace

I guess it is.....I just wonder can i show site of the customer who said he buys for 400 so guys could see content for 400$.

It is pretty good thouth

YES, show the site. I want to see what 400 dollar exclusive BG content looks like.

Sebastian

Implode · 07-09-2007, 03:30 AM

Silly question, but how long is a 'scene' on average? I'm thinking about shooting some fresh content in my city and I'd consider selling it fairly cheap & exlclusively. I already have all the preliminaries out of the way (sexy teen talent, lawyer, 2257, model release, HD equipment, lighting, etc etc).

Also does the footage need to be edited or do most prefer a video of the entire shoot? (I suck at editing, but I make pretty sexy raw vid lol)

RAM · 07-09-2007, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Still...Pretty fucking stupid of me.

Try really FUCKING STUPID

RAM · 07-09-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by american pervert

I cant possibly shoot a scene for less than $3500 here in l.a.

Yes you can

07-03-2007, 02:57 PM	#1
Peace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY and Moscow Posts: 5,519	Who sells B/G scenes for 400$ exclusive? I got few webamsters recently telling me that they buy hard core scenes for 400$ exclusive..How is that possible? When cost is Russia VideoGuy 100 Model 250 Studio 170 Make up 50 Procressing 50 Total 620$ Same would be in Chezh and Hungary or even 1.5 times more So how is that possible. if that was i guy buy 3 guys are asking me to shoot for 400$ What is going on? __________________ Need Custom or Licensed Content? Visit PhotoVideoContent.com Email: [email protected] / Telegram: @romatibet / Skype: Peace888

07-03-2007, 03:00 PM	#2
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	I could sell it for that...no way in hell I would though. There are people with lower overhead and more creative ways of doing business who are also starving for business and will take whatever they can get. In all honesty...I have done hardcore exclusive for that price in the past. Probably one of the dumbest mistakes I have ever made in this business....BUT....It was also on a bulk deal where the client was taking 3 to 6 scenes with the same models. Still...Pretty fucking stupid of me. Last edited by AaronM; 07-03-2007 at 03:02 PM..

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07-03-2007, 03:07 PM	#6
Peace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY and Moscow Posts: 5,519	so content worth nothing nowdays. Waiting for Paul Markham to come and explain everything to me. I think he would know exactly what is up. __________________ Need Custom or Licensed Content? Visit PhotoVideoContent.com Email: [email protected] / Telegram: @romatibet / Skype: Peace888

07-03-2007, 03:09 PM	#9
Jimmy Rock Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Hollywood Posts: 3,055	you should never sell for that amount, too many guys out there seeling scenes for that cheap and it screws up all photographers pricing out there. don;t even worry about it, stick to your prices with a profit you are comfortable with and stick to your guns! __________________ Jimmy Rock \| ICQ: 285 748 329 [email protected]

07-03-2007, 03:03 PM	#4
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	could be dumping the price to get a few contracts... tons of companies losing money daily just to keep up

07-03-2007, 03:08 PM	#7
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	For what it's worth....Any client who is that cheap is not worth shooting for. They will end up being a HUGE pain in the ass and demanding more out of you for less.

07-03-2007, 03:18 PM	#14
ultimatebbwdotcom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 591	Skanky ho: Dime bag Smelly vagrant: 6 pack of 10% vol Beer Videographer with Parkinsons $10. You get what you pay for and unless you've seen the guys work and its good (and he agrees to shoot the same quality) you might be in for some lower quality content. Maybe you can just pay after you've seen it lol

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Arab_Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 221	400? are you insane? i only pay 200 __________________ Send Your Middle Eastern/Arab traffic here!

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american pervert Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,830	I cant possibly shoot a scene for less than $3500 here in l.a. __________________ I can resist everything except temptation

07-03-2007, 03:50 PM	#17
everestcash Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,194	I'm pretty sure that photographers who sell that cheap use the same models to shoot a few more scenes in the same apartment. so the video or pictures you buy may be exclusive but chances are high later you will find very similar looking content on some other site. __________________ Got solo girls/teen traffic? Promote our exclusive solo girl sites and boost your income!

07-03-2007, 04:07 PM	#18
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,384	I'm buying exclusive B/G packages (pics+video) for $400 __________________ Obey the Cowgod

07-03-2007, 04:31 PM	#19
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	There is no minimal chances that video guy is $100,either make-up $50,or even girl in Russia for $250..... except for girl...those are prices in EU...as far as i know,lot of my friends shots for much less money then that in Russia,lol To sell sceene a $400 hardcore...sorry not posible..only model in Hungary,Czech where i mostly shot is minimal $400 + 20% agency fee....more often 500-700$ per model only.... Video guy can do it for $50 and make-up for $30...location as super luxury villa is like $500 per day..so when u shot 5 or so sceenes it came to $100 per sceene for location... so nope...we sell HC sceene for $1000-1800 depends on model,location etc... no one works for coca-cola,lol __________________

07-03-2007, 04:44 PM	#20
VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	I've bought for that price from producers outside the USA and I've bought from producers within the USA that charge more than 4 times that and produce for some of the largest sites. One of these producers that shoots for the biggest sites, delivered me the content months after the promised time, and the quality was if not the same but worst than the lower priced non-usa producer's I use. The only downside being the non-usa models usually dont speak full english.

07-03-2007, 07:32 PM	#26
p0rnus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 794	There are girls around here (hot too) that'll do it for $100. with a good camera, a hung buddy, and adobe premiere I can see it __________________ ICQ: 330-164-445

07-03-2007, 07:33 PM	#27
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	all depends on where you're at and what your game is. $400 seems low to be selling for, but you could definitely make them for that in the right places with the right people still, but its getting harder to do because big name places pay girls so much in part just to drive prices up and some girls think that 2 days into the adult business their pussy is worth $5000. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

07-03-2007, 07:37 PM	#28
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	Pornus, I am short car or plane ride away in South Florida, send me some of those hot $100 girls and I'll make it worth your while, he he. These prices crack me up. I wouldn't film a hardcore scene where I made as little as $400 profit, much less charge for the service in total.

07-03-2007, 08:12 PM	#29
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I bought some stuff at bargain basement prices before, the quality was absolutely horrid and I had to throw the content away. I'm not saying that more expensive content is necessarily better, but I don't see how anyone can do $400 unless they live in a location where they only have to pay the model $50.

07-03-2007, 08:28 PM	#30
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07-03-2007, 08:48 PM	#31
VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	lol... I am in the Bay Area, California... and know plenty of girls that will do hardcore scenes for $250. Makeup would cost $0, they can do their own. And these would be with fresh girls, not seen all over the place. and yes they are hot. Camera man = $0 (me). male model max $100. location: $0 (home or office) If I can produce scenes for $400 in the bay area, then there is no reason why someone outside of the USA can not shoot for that price. And yes I have took a stab at shooting content in the past, and these prices are possible. Especially when you shoot the model for multiple scenes in 1 day.

07-04-2007, 10:26 PM	#35
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Boy girl can be shot for $400. Using female models who can't find work, a mate to do the stud work and shooting it yourself. It is possible. The question over how much you sell it for has little to nothing to do with the price you sell it for. You can shoot a scene that costs $40 and is worth $4,000, and yes I have done it, and you can shoot a scene costing $4,000 that is worth $40. Not done the last one but got close to it once. The factor that determines the sale price is the value of the end product and not what it costs to produce. Every week I get someone trying to sell me boy girl videos for what ever price I will pay. They send me samples and bother me all the time. The last one was awful. It was not "Amateur" it was crap. Sorry if that sounds arrogant, but it's true. I will buy all the decent boy girl movies anyone can shoot for $400. I can sell them all the time for 1,000 Euros to the DVD companies plus leave myself with Internet rights. Problem is no one who can shoot decent content will sell it for $400 or even $1,000. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

07-05-2007, 12:36 AM	#36
Gary_TLX Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 776	I seriously doubt there are producers who produce decent quality b/g scenes for $400. Yes, they might produce total crap for that, but then whoever buys them is making a mistake. If I'm wrong, and there really are producers making good quality exclusive b/g scenes for $400, then they really need to work on their marketing strategies. __________________ Quality custom exclusive content: ICQ: 286786153 email: contact(at)tlxproductions(dot)com

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Mr. Cool Ice Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,289	Easy, you are being lied to and it's not exclusive. NOBODY is going to sell anything that's worth anything for $400 exclusive. If they do, you are getting fucked somehow. You couldn't even get me to answer the phone or get out of bed for only $400.

07-05-2007, 10:20 PM	#39
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07-09-2007, 03:30 AM	#41
Implode Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 40	Silly question, but how long is a 'scene' on average? I'm thinking about shooting some fresh content in my city and I'd consider selling it fairly cheap & exlclusively. I already have all the preliminaries out of the way (sexy teen talent, lawyer, 2257, model release, HD equipment, lighting, etc etc). Also does the footage need to be edited or do most prefer a video of the entire shoot? (I suck at editing, but I make pretty sexy raw vid lol) __________________ He who laughs last... thinks slowest