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Shey · 07-05-2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

You, along with the other hopefulls (tomorrow's millionaires, I'm sure) can make about one million more posts attacking me. It still won't make your delusions of grandeur part of everyday life. Sad, but true.

Ok, maybe that did seem a bit attacking, sorry. But it really was an honest question: Are you still arguing for the sake of arguing or do you still honestly think that you have made a point? You speak of the "self appointed experts" and attack their valid points without knowing two bits about them. How are you an expert on this particular subject?

I'm not trying to be rude, I really am curious.

harvey · 07-05-2007, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

www.pr0n.com.

It's undeveloped.

www.porn.com

it's parked.

www.sex.com

it's parked.

"Prime real estate" ? Bullcrap.

Let me tell you one of my favorite jokes :

Isidor and Isaac are good friends. One day Isaac passes a garage sale and buys a painting for 20 bucks.

Isidor comes to visit the same day, sees the painting, and goes, hey Isaac, that's an ugly painting you got there, sell it to me for 30$.

Done deal. Next week, Isaac comes visiting Isidor, sees the painting and goes, Isidor, I'll pay you 50 bux for that useless piece of junk over there.

Back and forth, by the end of the year the painting's market value is in the five digits. The maid accidentally drenches it in windex and ruins it. Isidor to Isaac

"What a clumsy maid you have, she;s ruined such good business for us".

They're useless folks. Wake up.

oh noes! pls somebody buy all my domains!

polish_aristocrat · 07-05-2007, 02:14 AM

fluffygrrl has to be a troll nick

uno · 07-05-2007, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj

I'm Canadian... Please type slower !

Uno perhaps I'm overlooking something... but what... ^^

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Sorry, I've been watching too much Star Trek.

fluffygrrl · 07-05-2007, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

actually point of the story was that the hooker was selling a service that cost her nothing opposed to the hotdog vender who was selling a product that cost him money.

It doesn't have to cost you something to be valuable. It merely has to be something someone desires.

And I'm not disputing type in traffic EXISTS. However, try some math.

With current 6months revenue valuation schemes, 15 millions worth of domains that presumably sold last month must produce 250k in ppc every month. With a 10 cent per click average price, that means 2.5M clicks. With a 0.5% ctr, which may well be generous for parked domains, that comes to half a billion visitors.

They do not get half a billion visitors a month.

polish_aristocrat · 07-05-2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

With a 0.5% ctr,

wyldworx · 07-05-2007, 02:20 AM

It seems they have become a greater drain on the would-be investor with little understanding and time to lose.

will76 · 07-05-2007, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

It doesn't have to cost you something to be valuable. It merely has to be something someone desires.

And I'm not disputing type in traffic EXISTS. However, try some math.

With current 6months revenue valuation schemes, 15 millions worth of domains that presumably sold last month must produce 250k in ppc every month. With a 10 cent per click average price, that means 2.5M clicks. With a 0.5% ctr, which may well be generous for parked domains, that comes to half a billion visitors.

They do not get half a billion visitors a month.

WTF are you talking about, i was talking about hookers and hotdogs.

st0ned · 07-05-2007, 02:25 AM

Didn't feel like reading through everything, But if nobody has mentioned it yet porn.com sold for $9.5 million and pimproll.com will be hosting it once its developed.

"We will take our time with PORN.COM", says a representative of MXN Ltd. It does not need to transform overnight. In the meantime, we will keep it parked with PremiumTraffic.com, a leading domain name monetization company".

If you plan to signup for pimproll PLEASE pm me and ill send you my referral link

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 07-05-2007, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by uno

Sorry, I've been watching too much Star Trek.

^^ Just making small talk...

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fluffygrrl · 07-05-2007, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by st0ned

"We will take our time with PORN.COM", says a representative of MXN Ltd. It does not need to transform overnight.

what's the man said, in 5 years ?

MarcWomack · 07-05-2007, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

The generic landing pages on type in domains won't hardly make the money back that the investor put into it in the first place. I am just waiting for this whole bubble to burst, this insanity can't last forever. Same goes with Web 2.0 and overenthusiastic VCs dumping millions into "promising" projects.

Ever hear of "abitrage"? Heh, can't wait till my business partner Rick Latona sees this one. He's built an entire business making SERIOUS bank on doing exactly what you're saying doesn't make money. Then again, he might be too busy making money to bother. Normally that's my motto. Only reason I'm here now is b/c Shey showed me the thread.

MarcWomack · 07-05-2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

You, along with the other hopefulls (tomorrow's millionaires, I'm sure) can make about one million more posts attacking me. It still won't make your delusions of grandeur part of everyday life. Sad, but true.

Delusions? Tell ya what, next time you're in the Philippines come check out the $450,000 condo we're buying next week off the proceeds of selling one choice domain that we bought a few years back for less than 25K. As you enjoy the magnificent view from the 47th floor tell me if you're having a delusion.

Domains are like any other business people. Some are good at it and make bank. some aren't and don't make jack. If you're one of those that failed and didn't make money don't go around trashing the entire business model. Just because you weren't smart enough to make a good profit doesn't mean no one else can. If there's wasn't a way to make money you most likely wouldn't have gotten into it in the first place and more importantly no one else would be out there doing it now!

And I've said my peace, I'm out.

sortie · 07-05-2007, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

actually point of the story was that the hooker was selling a service that cost her nothing opposed to the hotdog vender who was selling a product that cost him money.

Of course, and the point of the post was to make a point that wasn't a point to mock the point made by the thread starter.

cliff notes: I purposely drew the wrong conclusion to be sarcastic.

stickyfingerz · 07-05-2007, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ConsumptionJunction

Delusions? Tell ya what, next time you're in the Philippines come check out the $450,000 condo we're buying next week off the proceeds of selling one choice domain that we bought a few years back for less than 25K. As you enjoy the magnificent view from the 47th floor tell me if you're having a delusion.

Domains are like any other business people. Some are good at it and make bank. some aren't and don't make jack. If you're one of those that failed and didn't make money don't go around trashing the entire business model. Just because you weren't smart enough to make a good profit doesn't mean no one else can. If there's wasn't a way to make money you most likely wouldn't have gotten into it in the first place and more importantly no one else would be out there doing it now!

And I've said my peace, I'm out.

Marc I feel like I should post a bare ass pic takin in Costa.

Vlad · 07-05-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

fluffygrrl has to be a troll nick

lol yep , just another troll sicking for attention

tranza · 07-05-2007, 07:31 AM

Cool joke!

fluffygrrl · 07-05-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ConsumptionJunction

Delusions? Tell ya what, next time you're in the Philippines come check out the $450,000 condo we're buying

It seems this needs to be personally explained to each and every single person with a vested interest.

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOU PERSONALLY. It's not. I don't care if you're married or not, live in a condo or a house, in Texas or the Phillipines. Your personal circumstances don't interest me, and I'm pretty sure they don't interest anybody else on the whole world wide web.

That said, feel free to keep right up posting about them, altho it'd prolly better to start a blog.

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Domains are like any other business people.

And that's quite the gist of the argument. "Domainers" aren't business people, and whatever it is they do is not a business.

Against this, I've heard the argument that, hey, we made money. Other than being weak for the obvious reason that everybody's Warren Buffett on the internets, it's also weak because making money doesn't prove something is a business.

Generating wealth would, but not merely making money. I see many people have serious difficulty distinguishing these two, but then again that's not surprising. There is however sufficient material in this thread for anyone with half a brain to figure it out, so I won't repeat myself on that score.

Now, do tell us more about you and your problems, preocupations and triumphs, we really do fuckin care. And it has everything to do with the discussion at hand.

07-05-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

And that's quite the gist of the argument. "Domainers" aren't business people, and whatever it is they do is not a business.

Against this, I've heard the argument that, hey, we made money. Other than being weak for the obvious reason that everybody's Warren Buffett on the internets, it's also weak because making money doesn't prove something is a business.

Generating wealth would, but not merely making money. I see many people have serious difficulty distinguishing these two, but then again that's not surprising. There is however sufficient material in this thread for anyone with half a brain to figure it out, so I won't repeat myself on that score.

you are quite possibly the dumbest person on gfy. not because you're dumb, but because you don't know how dumb you are.

Just Mike · 07-05-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

you are quite possibly the dumbest person on gfy. not because you're dumb, but because you don't know how dumb you are.

thats a great line.

LOL

sortie · 07-05-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

making money doesn't prove something is a business.

Well, having a business doesn't prove you're making any money.

So, I'd rather just make money and have you call it what ever you want.

TheJimmy · 07-05-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Why do people feel the need to broadcast their ignorance so readily.

I see your

and raise you

Totally humorous thread.

ibuydomains · 07-05-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

10 cent per click average price

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

0.5% ctr

Funny stuff

Sly · 07-05-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Well, having a business doesn't prove you're making any money.

So, I'd rather just make money and have you call it what ever you want.

Quote of the day.

fluffygrrl · 07-05-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Well, having a business doesn't prove you're making any money.

So, I'd rather just make money and have you call it what ever you want.

Wasn't so hard now, was it

MarcWomack · 07-05-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Marc I feel like I should post a bare ass pic takin in Costa.

Go for it! Those that don't know this pic, on the Costa Rica show I did the horseback riding thing, got a horse with a burr up it's ass to do nothing but gallop full speed, wound up with a LOVELY case of saddle sores up and down my ass cheeks.

Frankly the pic would be perfectly appropriate. Pretty much sums up this fluffer in my book: annoying and irritating pain in the ass but if you don't give it any attention it'll go away soon enough

Dollarmansteve · 07-05-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

And that's quite the gist of the argument. "Domainers" aren't business people, and whatever it is they do is not a business.

Against this, I've heard the argument that, hey, we made money. Other than being weak for the obvious reason that everybody's Warren Buffett on the internets, it's also weak because making money doesn't prove something is a business.

Generating wealth would, but not merely making money. I see many people have serious difficulty distinguishing these two, but then again that's not surprising. There is however sufficient material in this thread for anyone with half a brain to figure it out, so I won't repeat myself on that score.

Now, do tell us more about you and your problems, preocupations and triumphs, we really do fuckin care. And it has everything to do with the discussion at hand.

There is nothing more irritating than stupid person with a small amount of education. Clearly you've either taken 1 course in economics that you don't actually understand, read a bunch of books written by other stupid people who think they're smart - or maybe you even have a degree from some back-woods college (cracker-jack box, whatever).

You have said several times that you think people in this thread have trouble differentiating between 'creating wealth' and 'making money' - what is truly pathetic is that you've demonstrated that you are not able to distinguish between the ability to read and regurgitate the words from a text book and the ability to correctly analyze real-world situations and apply knowledge by creating valid, coherent arguments. You mask your lack of real understanding with a talent for the written word.

Your attempts to use metaphors and 'fables' to make your point is a prime example of a stupid person trying to be smart. Please continue to enlighten us with some more apt stories that capture the essence on the domain business.

P.S. - your site is a piece of shit, I hope you got paid by me going there or you really are an idiot.

fluffygrrl · 07-05-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

[bla bla]a talent for the written word.[bla bla]

Why thank you. I wish there was something nice I could say about you in return, but sadly, 2000 or so posts fail to produce anything whatsoever I could cling to. Do stop by again.

07-05-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Why thank you. I wish there was something nice I could say about you in return, but sadly, 2000 or so posts fail to produce anything whatsoever I could cling to. Do stop by again.

your lack of comprehension is what leaves you with nothing to say...

fluffygrrl · 07-05-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

Mikey baby, you've made half a dozen or so content-free posts in this thread, I still don't give a shit about your bloated head, but here's a reply to you so maybe you're finally satisfied and stfu. Thanks.

07-05-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Mikey baby, you've made half a dozen or so content-free posts in this thread, I still don't give a shit about your bloated head, but here's a reply to you so maybe you're finally satisfied and stfu. Thanks.

you start an investment analysis thread only to end with an unoriginal pic of a girl doing a handstand. good job fuckface.

chodadog · 07-05-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

0.5% ctr

Hahaha. I own some insertion domains that get type-in traffic. I don't even bother with a landing page. I simply send the traffic directly to a sponsor and yield 14 cents per click with it. I pay about 100 dollars per year in reg fees for those domains and they make me over 2 thousand dollars per year.

Yes, that's a pissy little amount, but when you've got the domain portfolios that some of the people in this thread have, then it amounts to a very significant amount indeed.

fluffygrrl · 07-05-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chodadog

Hahaha. I own some insertion domains that get type-in traffic. I don't even bother with a landing page. I simply send the traffic directly to a sponsor and yield 14 cents per click with it. I pay about 100 dollars per year in reg fees for those domains and they make me over 2 thousand dollars per year.

Sounds about right.

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Yes, that's a pissy little amount, but when you've got the domain portfolios that some of the people in this thread have, then it amounts to a very significant amount indeed.

Certainly not. It ammounts to a pissy poor ammount on a different scale. If you put 10M in the lap of the government, they're going to pay you half a million a year. 40k a month, that is.

Calling something an "investment" that barely keeps up with federal bonds, just because you've heard some stories about pies falling from the sky... hehehe. God they crack me up.

Xenophage · 07-06-2007, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Here's the deal with big corporations tho. First, a true story friend just shared :

Back when DEC was hot shit (first corporation connected to the Internets, 85 it was, or 84), and their Altavista engine had a bigger market share than google has today, they didn't bother registering altavista as a domain, and somebody else did, hoping to sell it to DEC and make bank.

DEC went to court and got a court order prohibiting the intreprid fellows from ever running a search engine off that domain.

Five schmucks in ill-fitting suits don't get to fleece big corporations. That's the rule of the game, the better suit does the fleecing. So, if them "big corporations" ever want the domainer's domains, they'll just pass a law saying so. It's happened a while back, about actual corporate domains and trademarks. That would have been 90% of the value.

If they'll want more words, they'll just give them to themselves.

wrong I knew those guys and they got $5 million for it.

we owned a small domain called webtv.com eventually that also got bought for big big bucks.

BlackCrayon · 07-06-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Sounds about right.

Certainly not. It ammounts to a pissy poor ammount on a different scale. If you put 10M in the lap of the government, they're going to pay you half a million a year. 40k a month, that is.

Calling something an "investment" that barely keeps up with federal bonds, just because you've heard some stories about pies falling from the sky... hehehe. God they crack me up.

Not many people have 10 mil to invest, and some people who claim to have such money to invest use it as more of a way to get responses than anything else. How much is the government going to give you for $100 or even $1000 investment?

Anyways, while you've got it all figured out and have the domaining world at its knees, how much money are you making doing whatever it is your doing?

fluffygrrl · 07-06-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_EZEKIEL

only in the bible are empires built in 6 days. We're not done yet.

We wish you luck

. However, you've been at it for couple decades now almost, haventcha. Much longer ?

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

People like you come on the wind and float away on the wind as the domain market makes millionaires out of person after person year in and year out.

Here's just a short list of a few (there's many more, heh)

http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/07/...ire-domainers/

Usually the kind of people that start such misinformed threads are either in the sour grapes department, clueless,

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Originally Posted by Shaze

people who usually post comments like this missed the domain bandwagon and are pissed they can't register even a semi-good domain now and get stuck with registering domains with extensions like
.ws
.info
etc......

trust me no matter how much you say domains are worthless, it will just get worse. pretty soon every single domain name you can think of will be taken and you'll be stuck with registering domains like

analpornsexpornsitesexhorny.com

actually it is already that way. nowadays if you need a short domain you need to use those other extensions like mentioned above. i say pick them up while they are still available.

Isn't this verbiage strikingly reminescent of each and every Ponzi scheme since Ponzi himself ?

O boy, just hang on in there, and o boy aren't you bothered you didn't get in early.

I'm sure some of the people that got in real early made some money. Not the sort of money they claimed AT THE TIME, but maybe not far off. Nowhere near the sort of money people claim today.

The entire "business"/scam depends on there being more and more and ever more idiots with tons of cash that buy into this scarcity theory. While there's always plenty of idiots, there's not always plenty of idiots with arbitrary ammounts of cash falling off of them.

And as the "smart investors" that took credit to dump the money into imaginary "real estate" start getting the interests squeezed out of them, more and more incredibly great deals are going to pop up, and for incredibly low prices. Which will keep halving every month till all the puff is squeezed out of this play-pretend market.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Not many people have 10 mil to invest, and some people who claim to have such money to invest use it as more of a way to get responses than anything else. How much is the government going to give you for $100 or even $1000 investment?

About five to ten times more than what you will get out of parking the very valuable domain name those dollars would buy you.

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Anyways, while you've got it all figured out and have the domaining world at its knees, how much money are you making doing whatever it is your doing?

Apparently, enough.

07-05-2007, 02:14 AM	#103
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07-05-2007, 02:25 AM	#109
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	Didn't feel like reading through everything, But if nobody has mentioned it yet porn.com sold for $9.5 million and pimproll.com will be hosting it once its developed. "We will take our time with PORN.COM", says a representative of MXN Ltd. It does not need to transform overnight. In the meantime, we will keep it parked with PremiumTraffic.com, a leading domain name monetization company". If you plan to signup for pimproll PLEASE pm me and ill send you my referral link __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

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tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Cool joke! __________________ I'm just a newbie.

07-05-2007, 02:20 AM	#107
wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	It seems they have become a greater drain on the would-be investor with little understanding and time to lose.