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directfiesta 07-04-2007 12:38 PM

100 top notch health care !

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 12703739)
There is no doubt that quality of health care in the U.S. is top notch, .

http://photos.imageevent.com/nathan_.../top-notch.JPG

TreasureBucks 07-04-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 12697359)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Ok..

Im outta here.

Theres no point in arguing with idiots.

Im going on my bike ride.

Be back in a few hours.

Thanks so much for the name calling, it shows me what kind of
person you are and how not to take anything you say or do
seriously!
BTW Happy 4th of July!

Also, this is Kiwigirl

Loryn 07-04-2007 04:11 PM

Boneprone you turn me on baby! :wetkiss

You nailed it on the first page! :thumbsup

wizhard 07-04-2007 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com (Post 12704816)
Boneprone you turn me on baby! :wetkiss

You nailed it on the first page! :thumbsup


Appart from your sexual affiliations to "boneprone" what was it exactly that "nailed it" for you on the first page of this thread Loryn-Adult ?

stev0 07-04-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 12696895)
That movie was so misleading it was disturbing.

There is no comparison to the QUALITY of care the US provides vs the UK system.

No comparison..........

You get what you pay for....

Uk is rated 18, US is rated 37. Looks like better quality care.
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

Nysus 07-04-2007 04:41 PM

Boneprone - Could Darwin's survival of the fittest perhaps work as a whole society and on an individual basis?

Nysus 07-04-2007 04:45 PM

Anyway, a person who is healthy will be more productive, his/her family will be more productive, they will not be a drain on society, friends or family, or their employer.

Stress also is a major cause for sickness. When a person is stressed the body can't heal itself as well. The sole fact that people have to worry that they have enough money in case something happens to them, or that if they have no money and something happens is enough to make a person not be able to heal themselves when they may have been able to under different circumstance.

wizhard 07-04-2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nysus (Post 12704891)
Anyway, a person who is healthy will be more productive, his/her family will be more productive, they will not be a drain on society, friends or family, or their employer.

Stress also is a major cause for sickness. When a person is stressed the body can't heal itself as well. The sole fact that people have to worry that they have enough money in case something happens to them, or that if they have no money and something happens is enough to make a person not be able to heal themselves when they may have been able to under different circumstance.


Yeup - there's alot of evidence around now to strongly support the theory that "stress" can be a "trigger" to other life threatening maladies.

Maybe my granny had it right after all :winkwink:

Axarsys 07-05-2007 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 12697200)
Yep..

I have a Masters Degree in Public Health and some time in a PHD program in Health Care Administration.

It seems quite the clash is going on here.
Regardless I suppose you know that this Darwin you flutter in front of all hoping that none know anything about lies in Westminster Abbey now as he died of an illness he and the medics of the time battled to no avail all his life?

*sigh* If only healthcare was better. And it gets better with practice...if solely the wealthy can afford it, well, there are just not enough of them, are there?
"just the strong survive?" well he didn't and deprived the world of some great works and scientific theories.

Being the Darth Master of Health that you claim to be I assumed you would pick a better example.

boneprone 07-05-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com (Post 12704816)
Boneprone you turn me on baby! :wetkiss

You nailed it on the first page! :thumbsup

Hot stuff!

boneprone 07-05-2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nysus (Post 12704891)
Anyway, a person who is healthy will be more productive, his/her family will be more productive, they will not be a drain on society, friends or family, or their employer.

Stress also is a major cause for sickness. When a person is stressed the body can't heal itself as well. The sole fact that people have to worry that they have enough money in case something happens to them, or that if they have no money and something happens is enough to make a person not be able to heal themselves when they may have been able to under different circumstance.


Thank you Doctor!

The Heron 07-05-2007 10:21 AM

Simple economics show that the best answer to 99% of problems is a capitalistic for profit system. The ONLY time public funding works is if it is a resource everyone uses and it is too difficult to force payment from the users.

boneprone 07-05-2007 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 12707965)
Simple economics show that the best answer to 99% of problems is a capitalistic for profit system. The ONLY time public funding works is if it is a resource everyone uses and it is too difficult to force payment from the users.


TRUE......

Probono 07-05-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 12697200)
Yep..

I have a Masters Degree in Public Health and some time in a PHD program in Health Care Administration.

I could run laps around anyone in an argument on how an HMO is better than a Socialized system.

1. Not everyone in the US can buy health insurance even if they have the money if they have pre-existing conditions.
2. Not everyone with health insurance gets what they pay for, did you ever read the fine print in an HMO contract?
3. You the tax payer do pay BIG $$$ for uninsured who go to emergency rooms because it the only place they cannot be denied treatment. That is the most expensive treatment you can buy.
4. Socialized may not be the best system but the current system is not good and the programs in Canada or the UK are better than what MOST Americans can afford.

I am glad the upper crust can afford better, don't worry if you earn big bucks but the masses do not.

pigman 07-06-2007 01:53 PM

Should be looking at Sweden, Denmark and Norway if you want study socialism.

Doctor Dre 07-06-2007 01:57 PM

I'm all in for a private system competing agaisn't a public one.

We need workers from all social classes for the economy to run well. The poors are feeding you in some way.

SCtyger 07-06-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 12697111)
And no, I dont work for an HMO..

Jesus...

Were you born yesterday? Dont you know who the fuck I am?

Im Boneprone.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh I'm the Juggernaut biatch!

http://forums.weboverdrive.com/images/stuff/jugger.jpg

watch the vid: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zgAPFKDL6Sg :1orglaugh

SCtyger 07-06-2007 02:56 PM

On a more serious note, for those who have not seen the movie. It isnt about the kind of coverage the rich people get versus what poor people get...

The movie is more about people who THINK they're covered since they have a job with health insurance. These are the people who'll leave with the most amount of concern after watching the movie.

Anal Hobbit 07-06-2007 05:28 PM

Socialized medical systems don't pay doctors enough money so they have to bring in arab workers who end up trying to explode cars at airports.

The Doctor they interviewed in Sicko was Arab.

The fuckers trying to blow shit up in the UK are Arab Doctors.

Fact....

Penthouse Tony 07-06-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Anal Hobbit (Post 12715310)
Socialized medical systems don't pay doctors enough money so they have to bring in arab workers who end up trying to explode cars at airports.

The Doctor they interviewed in Sicko was Arab.

The fuckers trying to blow shit up in the UK are Arab Doctors.

Fact....

Any truth to the rumor they tried to recruit you Anal Hobbit?

Anal Hobbit 07-06-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 12715319)
Any truth to the rumor they tried to recruit you Anal Hobbit?

No.. Im not a big fan of Socialized Medicine...

Penthouse Tony 07-06-2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anal Hobbit (Post 12715335)
No.. Im not a big fan of Socialized Medicine...

Well there you have it. Even the guy that likes to find the angle to fuck over any system doesn't like socialized medicine. :1orglaugh

Anal Hobbit 07-06-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 12715347)
Well there you have it. Even the guy that likes to find the angle to fuck over any system doesn't like socialized medicine. :1orglaugh


People need to pull their heads out of their asses. We already have socialized medicine here in the US.

Its called Welfare...

Most the Black mothers here in the US use it..

Tax payers pay for it. They use it to live on.

Not only does it pay for medical, it pays for food and even gives cash...


People are so full of shit when they talk about the uninsured..

The poorest of poor and the majority of blacks are on the US form of socialized medcine.

ITs called Medicaid.. Welfare.

Look it up people.

tony286 07-06-2007 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anal Hobbit (Post 12715362)
People need to pull their heads out of their asses. We already have socialized medicine here in the US.

Its called Welfare...

Most the Black mothers here in the US use it..

Tax payers pay for it. They use it to live on.

Not only does it pay for medical, it pays for food and even gives cash...


People are so full of shit when they talk about the uninsured..

The poorest of poor and the majority of blacks are on the US form of socialized medcine.

ITs called Medicaid.. Welfare.

Look it up people.

you really have no clue about what your talking about.

tony286 07-06-2007 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 12697200)
Yep..

I have a Masters Degree in Public Health and some time in a PHD program in Health Care Administration.

I could run laps around anyone in an argument on how an HMO is better than a Socialized system.

says the guy who is in porn. lol Most of my family works in healthcare and Im experiencing the system first hand with my fathers cancer treatment.you really have no idea what your talking about.

boneprone 07-23-2007 03:22 PM

any changes of heart people?

Mister Masters 07-24-2007 02:42 PM

A true Patriot
 
Check your damn constitution,
not only do you have the right to over throw the govt (if they arent doing the best for the people) but you have the responsibility to!!!!

Michael Moore is a real american, someone who loves his country and is trying to get shit fixed....



If you arent pissed off then you just arent paying attenton, and just cause you disagree with the retards in the west wing doesnt make you unpatriotic


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