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Old 06-27-2007, 02:55 PM   #1
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Led Zeppelin ... best cover band ever .. LOL... ( VID and Link )

They are the best cover band ever ...lol

check this out ...

Here is the website http://www.classicrockcentral.com/

>>here is the Video <<

They stoled all but one song off Led Zeppelin 1 and Stairway to Heaven is a complete rip off ..

Not the first to do it and I'm sure not the last but i found it very interesting ... I still love the band but I wish they wrote the songs. On the best of albums they now give credit to the original bands they took the songs from.

Anyone else here this guy on Stern today .. very interesting
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:58 PM   #2
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I caught it, the guy really knew his stuff. Pretty shocking the sheer amount of material they ripped off, at least they picked out good tracks
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:37 PM   #3
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Are you ready for...Dread Zeppelin?!?

A Zep cover band that plays with a reggae beat and is fronted by an Elvis impersonator lead singer - you'll just have to see and hear it for yourself:

Heartbreaker/Heartbreak Hotel

Or try this...

Immigrant Song

Rock On!!!

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just heard this on HS...haha...i love it

at least rappers give credit when they take a song
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:21 PM   #5
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just heard this on HS...haha...i love it

at least rappers give credit when they take a song
Its crazy that they got away with it for so long after being a hit. the ones that were the best were the ones that even had some of the same lyrics ..
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:27 PM   #6
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The video isn't much. It's just the bass notes of one of the riffs.. I'd have to hear a lot more of the song. Stairway to heaven is a hell of a lot more than the verse riff. I'd like to hear full songs for the rest of the "proof"... I'm not saying he's not right.. just need to see more. It's very easy to pick a single part of a song and point to another song with the same basic notes.. it's very different to prove wholesale theft.
There is also subconcious "theft" when writing a song where because you've heard a series of notes before at some point when you're writing something you're more likely to use those notes and you don't even realise it. George Harrison did it on "My Sweet Lord".. Paul McCartney was actually dismissive when he wrote "Yesterday" because he thought it came to him so readily and fully formed he thought he'd subconsciously ripped it from somewhere. The other thing is just mathematical probability.. there are only so many notes and so many ways to arrange them.. it's easy for two people on opposite sides of the planet who have never heard of each other to come up with the same basic riff or hook.
I mean I could go and intentionally write a new, original song tomorrow and you could probably take it's component parts and find the patterns in several other songs. Just probably not the whole thing in it's entirety.

Not saying this is what Zepplin has done, i'm sure they stole a few things.. I mean most of the blues based riffs they and the stones used were ripped from black musicians.. everyone knows that.. but the songs in their entirety is a different thing. Otherwise.. I mean where was the success of the twenty other bands with the hit songs they "stole".. maybe you can pinch a couple of songs.. but two album's worth? Wouldn't at least a couple of them have been hits for the original band when they wrote them if they were good enough to make Led Zep one of the biggest bands ever???

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too fucking funny Mike, I'm actually listening to this thing RIGHT NOW on the 24 hour repeat feed lol

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The video isn't much. It's just the bass notes of one of the riffs.. I'd have to hear a lot more of the song. Stairway to heaven is a hell of a lot more than the verse riff. I'd like to hear full songs for the rest of the "proof"... I'm not saying he's not right.. just need to see more. It's very easy to pick a single part of a song and point to another song with the same basic notes.. it's very different to prove wholesale theft.
There is also subconcious "theft" when writing a song where because you've heard a series of notes before at some point when you're writing something you're more likely to use those notes and you don't even realise it. George Harrison did it on "My Sweet Lord".. Paul McCartney was actually dismissive when he wrote "Yesterday" because he thought it came to him so readily and fully formed he thought he'd subconsciously ripped it from somewhere. The other thing is just mathematical probability.. there are only so many notes and so many ways to arrange them.. it's easy for two people on opposite sides of the planet who have never heard of each other to come up with the same basic riff or hook.
I mean I could go and intentionally write a new, original song tomorrow and you could probably take it's component parts and find the patterns in several other songs. Just probably not the whole thing in it's entirety.

Not saying this is what Zepplin has done, i'm sure they stole a few things.. I mean most of the blues based riffs they and the stones used were ripped from black musicians.. everyone knows that.. but the songs in their entirety is a different thing. Otherwise.. I mean where was the success of the twenty other bands with the hit songs they "stole".. maybe you can pinch a couple of songs.. but two album's worth? Wouldn't at least a couple of them have been hits for the original band when they wrote them if they were good enough to make Led Zep one of the biggest bands ever???

check the credits of their 1st album and then check the credits from their greatest hits album....nuff said...rip offs...
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"Then...onto Spirit's Taurus......I doubt Denny did too much research here or he would have actually read Randy California's autobiography which states that Page asked to use the first measure for a song and Randy agreed. He himself never had a problem with it. Listen to ALL of Taurus, not just the opening measure and you'll hear a completely different tune. As far as all the other rips....sure, it was commen for blues artists to "borrow" , but Zep can't?? I agree, most of Zep I was not "original" musical ideas....much of it came from the Yardbirds days. Several songs off Zep II were inspired by other blues tunes as well. As were spuratic later ones. Zep still completely wrote well over 80% of it's material. "
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check the credits of their 1st album and then check the credits from their greatest hits album....nuff said...rip offs...

I'm not saying they didn't rip stuff. Everyone knows they, and other bands of the time plundered blues tunes... it was relatively standard.. but there is a difference between that and called them a band of thieves or a fraud. A lot more goes into a song than the riff in the video above and it appears they asked if they could use it.
And I'm not a rabid Led Zep fan or anything defending them lol. I think I had a greatest hits album given to me as a teenager.. which isn't saying much. Plus I AM a bit of a nut when it comes to bands stealing songs.. just in the 60s and 70s it was pretty standard practice to pinch blues riffs for rock songs. It's a little bit different to today where every little sample has to be declared.
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"Then...onto Spirit's Taurus......I doubt Denny did too much research here or he would have actually read Randy California's autobiography which states that Page asked to use the first measure for a song and Randy agreed. He himself never had a problem with it. Listen to ALL of Taurus, not just the opening measure and you'll hear a completely different tune. As far as all the other rips....sure, it was commen for blues artists to "borrow" , but Zep can't?? I agree, most of Zep I was not "original" musical ideas....much of it came from the Yardbirds days. Several songs off Zep II were inspired by other blues tunes as well. As were spuratic later ones. Zep still completely wrote well over 80% of it's material. "
Is Denny MikeVega? You are absolutely right. No research at all! This is very old news. These people hear something on the radio and now think the band is a half-class act. As I said in the other Zeppelin topic, All Artists Borrow From Other Artists. Whether it be Steven Spielberg borrowing from Alfred Hitchcock, Johnny Depp from Keith Richards in 'Pirates' or Led Zeppelin borrowing from Blind Willie, etc.
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In the end, everyone is borrowing from everyone that is borrowing from everyone.

This guy appears to be on a real "seek and destroy" mission on Led Zep. Apparently he isn't a musician, because if he really was, he would understand that every time you are exposed to a piece of music, a little bit of it slips into your subconscious. Over time, your influences grow based on all that you hear, plus all that you play.

The example he cites is a good one, but he very carefully only plays a very small part of two larger songs. Perhaps Page was thinking a bit about that sort of sound structure or playing style when he started to write stairway to heaven. Perhaps it was an entire subconscious move based on having maybe played that song in the past, or having tried to learn it maybe 5 or 10 years before... a snippet that he remembered without knowing.

If this guy has nothing better to do in life than pick at 30 year old rock classics, I think he truly needs to get a life.
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Led Zeppelin "borrowed" from all of the blues standards that were popular amongst blues-based British bands in the mid to late 60's. If they weren't doing an outright cover tune like "You Shook Me" or "I Can't Quit You Baby" then they were "sampling" riffs and lyrics from those standards like many of the bands of the day did, including the Rolling Stones, Yardbirds, Animals, etc.

And as mentioned previously, Jimmy Page did ask Randy California to use the opening of Taurus for Stairway to Heaven. (I'm a huge Spirit fan as well so I've known this for a long time).

Led Zeppelin is one of the greatest bands of all time - there is no changing that no matter how many song bits they borrowed.

Besides, Green Day stole the riff from their song "Warning" from a song by the Kinks called "Picture Book" (1968).
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Lots of bands used portions/rifts of other songs.

There are only so many chords out there.
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Is Denny MikeVega? You are absolutely right. No research at all! This is very old news. These people hear something on the radio and now think the band is a half-class act. As I said in the other Zeppelin topic, All Artists Borrow From Other Artists. Whether it be Steven Spielberg borrowing from Alfred Hitchcock, Johnny Depp from Keith Richards in 'Pirates' or Led Zeppelin borrowing from Blind Willie, etc.
I now that back in the 60's and 70's lots of people borrowed and used pieces of songs without permission but on Led Zeppelin I there is just so many songs that were taken from others that it is crazy. I wish you could have heard the 45 min segment of Stern today to hear all they examples. were not just talking about a few notes. we are talking about full verses along with the notes. I'm not even a big fan but I always thought of them as legends and i just took at as a shock. Maybe they were just finding their sound and after that didn't have to borrow or steal but there first album had a lot of other peoples stuff on it. each one of the other artist they took from had some small folk following but never big hits. Zeppelin picked a few good songs and redid them way better then the first artist did. now compile all those good songs to one album and you have a hit band. The fact that everyone of those artist now get credit after being sued says a lot. they didn't even fight it.
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"Then...onto Spirit's Taurus......I doubt Denny did too much research here or he would have actually read Randy California's autobiography which states that Page asked to use the first measure for a song and Randy agreed. He himself never had a problem with it. Listen to ALL of Taurus, not just the opening measure and you'll hear a completely different tune. As far as all the other rips....sure, it was commen for blues artists to "borrow" , but Zep can't?? I agree, most of Zep I was not "original" musical ideas....much of it came from the Yardbirds days. Several songs off Zep II were inspired by other blues tunes as well. As were spuratic later ones. Zep still completely wrote well over 80% of it's material. "
Denny knows a bit about Classic rock and anyone that heard the show today can attest to that.

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Denny Somach is a Grammy® Award recipient, author and producer for radio and television. His talents and expertise span all facets of the entertainment industry.

After a successful career as a radio announcer and programmer at Philadelphia?s premier radio station WYSP-FM, Somach formed DSP, one of the world?s leading independent producers of syndicated and network radio programming. DSP?s landmark programming includes Legends of Rock, Live From the Hard Rock Cafe (NBC); Rolling Stone Magazine?s Continuous History of Rock and Roll (ABC); Scott Muni?s Ticket to Ride; Psychedelic Psnack, The Classics, The Rock of Your Life and ?Meet the Beatles?Again?.

Somach has produced, supervised and hosted numerous TV productions including Evening/PM Magazine, The Rock and Roll Show (CBS)SQL_INJECTION_ATTEMPTed by Ted Turner to serve as director of Cable Music Channel (later sold and became VH1).

As a major private collector and a pioneer in the category of music collectibles, Somach has successfully negotiated licenses and autograph rights with The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bon Jovi, AC/DC, Stevie Wonder, Yes, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, and more. He also operated a high end merchandising business for three Rolling Stones worldwide tours - VooDoo Lounge, Bridges to Babylon, No Security.

In the field of record and video production, Somach has worked with Johnny Winter, Yes, Todd Rundgren, Alan Parsons, Pete Bardens, Dave Mason, Asia, Mick Fleetwood, Justin Hayward, Patrick Moraz, and more. Somach is the Executive Producer of Eric Johnson?s album, AH VIA MUSICOM, which is R.I.A.A. certified ?platinum? and features the 1992 Grammy Award winning song, ?Cliffs of Dover.?

A recognized rock and roll authority, Somach has appeared on numerous television shows, including: The Today Show (NBC), Larry King Live (CNN), The Early Show (CBS), Dateline NBC, CNN?s Moneyline and Showbiz Today. He is also the author of two Beatles books, Ticket to Ride (Wm Morrow & Co.) and Meet The Beatles.....Again.
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The blues stuff they all took from and also from country.
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Aside from the first 15 seconds or so, that song has nothing in common with Stairway to Heaven.
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Alot of Musicians do other artists songs with, or without permission ,and either way I think it makes the song just greater ,and greater.
I love hearing good cover bands lol.

Never even heard of this band until now, and I am not speaking of Zepp.
Thanks for sharing Mike
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