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Old 06-27-2007, 04:27 PM  
bhutocracy
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The video isn't much. It's just the bass notes of one of the riffs.. I'd have to hear a lot more of the song. Stairway to heaven is a hell of a lot more than the verse riff. I'd like to hear full songs for the rest of the "proof"... I'm not saying he's not right.. just need to see more. It's very easy to pick a single part of a song and point to another song with the same basic notes.. it's very different to prove wholesale theft.
There is also subconcious "theft" when writing a song where because you've heard a series of notes before at some point when you're writing something you're more likely to use those notes and you don't even realise it. George Harrison did it on "My Sweet Lord".. Paul McCartney was actually dismissive when he wrote "Yesterday" because he thought it came to him so readily and fully formed he thought he'd subconsciously ripped it from somewhere. The other thing is just mathematical probability.. there are only so many notes and so many ways to arrange them.. it's easy for two people on opposite sides of the planet who have never heard of each other to come up with the same basic riff or hook.
I mean I could go and intentionally write a new, original song tomorrow and you could probably take it's component parts and find the patterns in several other songs. Just probably not the whole thing in it's entirety.

Not saying this is what Zepplin has done, i'm sure they stole a few things.. I mean most of the blues based riffs they and the stones used were ripped from black musicians.. everyone knows that.. but the songs in their entirety is a different thing. Otherwise.. I mean where was the success of the twenty other bands with the hit songs they "stole".. maybe you can pinch a couple of songs.. but two album's worth? Wouldn't at least a couple of them have been hits for the original band when they wrote them if they were good enough to make Led Zep one of the biggest bands ever???

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