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Old 06-27-2007, 12:46 PM   #1
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Put Vince McMahon In Jail

i do think he has a lot of blood on his hands - just put the idiot in jail and figure out some charges later.

i am surprised that up until this point that no family of a deceased WWF/WWE hasn't sued him, you'd think there would be a lot of lawyers who would want the publicity and potential damages.
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explanation for those of us out of the loop?
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wrestlers have come out publicly saying that Vince instructed them to "juice"....
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i do think he has a lot of blood on his hands - just put the idiot in jail and figure out some charges later.

i am surprised that up until this point that no family of a deceased WWF/WWE hasn't sued him, you'd think there would be a lot of lawyers who would want the publicity and potential damages.
The Hart family did sue him after Owen died in the ring and got a pretty big settlement. I do respect you, but you can't place the blame on McMahon for what the wrestlers do in their private lives. I'm sure a lot of girls you have worked with in the past have OD'd on drugs or committed other reprehensible acts, and no one suggests that you should be blamed. McMahon has done a LOT to take care of former wrestlers that blew all of their money or had other issues, and no one ever mentions that...
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this is just the tip of the iceberg, but vince puts a lot of demands on his wrestlers. to the point where a good number (if not the majority) have to rely on pills to go about their daily wwe activities (wrestling, appearances, workouts), pills to relax and go to sleep and a host of other things that ordinary day-to-day people don't have to do in order to get by.

there's a lot of pressure on his wrestlers to stay in top physical form, to not miss time with injuries and so forth, because there's always someone else waiting to come along and take their spot.

there's a lot more to it, but that's the basics of it.
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The Hart family did sue him after Owen died in the ring and got a pretty big settlement. I do respect you, but you can't place the blame on McMahon for what the wrestlers do in their private lives. I'm sure a lot of girls you have worked with in the past have OD'd on drugs or committed other reprehensible acts, and no one suggests that you should be blamed. McMahon has done a LOT to take care of former wrestlers that blew all of their money or had other issues, and no one ever mentions that...
haha - you're an idiot, there isn't a girl i've worked with who has anything even remotely close to a drug problem or committed any crimes.
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he's an employer - if there's any subtle pressure to use steroids or more than subtle pressure then there is a lawsuit waiting to happen - not saying he'd lose but i am sure a good lawyer could get some interesting testimony from witnesses that could sway a jury to decide that McMahon is liable for a portion of some of the damage done to these guys and their families.
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haha - you're an idiot, there isn't a girl i've worked with who has anything even remotely close to a drug problem or committed any crimes.
First of all man, save the idiot comment. I wasn't trying to say anything negative towards you. I love how people on here can't even engage in a discussion without getting their feelings hurt. I don't know the history of anyone you have worked with, but do you think you should be held responsible if one of them were to do something, and then blame it on the porn lifestyle?
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The WWE has a drug policy that specifically bans steroid use.
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The WWE has a drug policy that specifically bans steroid use.
That and the monthly testing for illegal substances, in which Benoit has been clean.

Here is a thought, maybe we should wait and see what the ME's office finds in the toxicology tests before jumping to conclusions.
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That and the monthly testing for illegal substances, in which Benoit has been clean.

Here is a thought, maybe we should wait and see what the ME's office finds in the toxicology tests before jumping to conclusions.
Exactly...Benoit just took a test on 4/10/07 and passed it.
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The WWE has a drug policy that specifically bans steroid use.
of course fhey do, it's a billion dollar company with a million dollar law firm on retainer. that's there for a reason - to protect the WWE not the wrestlers. just because there's an official company policy against drug usage doesn't mean shit in a civil court if there's evidence to the contrary that would show differently.
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Exactly...Benoit just took a test on 4/10/07 and passed it.
can the test be faked ?
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haha - you're an idiot, there isn't a girl i've worked with who has anything even remotely close to a drug problem or committed any crimes.
You absolutely sure? bet your life on it?
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i am surprised that up until this point that no family of a deceased WWF/WWE hasn't sued him, you'd think there would be a lot of lawyers who would want the publicity and potential damages.
Just because you don't see any lawsuits, doesn't mean none have ever happened. Vince has been sued many many many times, all civilly. Civil trials are not disclosed to the public.

The Hart family sued Vince and won for the wrongful death of Owen. Vince and the WWE were found negligent in regards to the stunt that Owen preformed.
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ummmmm.....everyone here knows that vince was federally investigated about steroids back over a decade ago he walked away clean.
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so does professional baseball... and they're serious about it. by the 7th or 8th time getting busted in a random test, there are some mild consequences.

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Vince and the WWE are sued on a regular basis. At the moment, they likely have at least one or two suits against them.
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yea, because adults should have no accountability for their own actions. blame someone else, that's the American way.
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Vince McMahon is my hero. Seriously.

The guy stands up for himself, entertains alot of people and does a lot of good. Too bad people would rather let the bad get in the way of all that. No ones perfect.
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yea, because adults should have no accountability for their own actions. blame someone else, that's the American way.
bahahahahahaha


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this is just the tip of the iceberg, but vince puts a lot of demands on his wrestlers. to the point where a good number (if not the majority) have to rely on pills to go about their daily wwe activities (wrestling, appearances, workouts), pills to relax and go to sleep and a host of other things that ordinary day-to-day people don't have to do in order to get by.

there's a lot of pressure on his wrestlers to stay in top physical form, to not miss time with injuries and so forth, because there's always someone else waiting to come along and take their spot.

there's a lot more to it, but that's the basics of it.
This can be said for any job or career in any city of the United States. Substitute wwe/wresters for employees.

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Exactly...Benoit just took a test on 4/10/07 and passed it.
As a former personal trainer and one who has experimented with the juice before, anyone who thinks that Vince McMahon would kick Batista out of wrestling becasue he tested positive for roids is nuts.

Benoit may not have been cranking but roids is rampant in wrestling and Vince McMahon knows it and knows it makes him and his wrestlers $$$$

My case in point below.... if you think this is just egge whites, creatine ephedrine and protein podwer with 3 hrs of cardio a day think again




just my 2 cents but regardless a horrible event for all their family and loved ones.
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Exactly...Benoit just took a test on 4/10/07 and passed it.
Do some of you people REALLY belive he wasn't on steroids?



Sorry, but that is NOT natural. Steroids are taken in cycles for short periods of time. His passing a test means only that he wasn't taking them at the exact moment the test was given.
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A tragedy any way you look at it. Really feel sorry for most of these guys.
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haha - you're an idiot, there isn't a girl i've worked with who has anything even remotely close to a drug problem or committed any crimes.
c'mon, if thats true, then you are a very unusual case

many chicks that do any degree of porn are into drugs, in my experience, and they are also prone to the seedier side
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The aftermath of those revelations led the World Wrestling Federation ? since renamed World Wrestling Entertainment ? to institute a steroid-testing policy. But that program ceased in 1996.
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If you don't like Vince now wait until he runs for office

Personally I think the choice to use steroids in wrestling is up to the individual. Wrestling is not a sport where performance-enhancing drugs can give you an unfair advantage.

Just because you are built like a tank from 'roids, doesn't mean jack if you can't talk, can't wrestle and have no mobility in the ring. True, Vince always seems to give big guys a shot, but rarely do they ever remain in any top position for long without other skills. Everything is scripted, so if it was only up to who had the top physiques do you think someone like Shawn Michaels would ever be a multiple champion??

As for other drug use, many former WWE names have been released due to drug abuse. The largest name most recently was Kurt Angle who was addicted to painkillers (allegedly). If Batista does become a junkie don't think his job would be any safer than Kurt's.
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of course

well, maybe i got ahead of myself here

he said drug problem and i was going to compare porn girls to strippers, where in that industry a hefty % use drugs, but they may not have a "problem"
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Maybe I'm just demonstrating that I live in Los Angeles and work out at Gold's, but I think a lot of people use steroids and don't kill themselves, their spouse, or their children.

When Phil Hartman's wife murdered him and killed herself, the makers of Zoloft got sued. I'm not saying the chemistry is no factor, but personal responsibility does have to factor in.
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all those guys are on roids get real you idiots..."passed" drug tests doesnt mean much when the WWE is doing the testing and not testing for everything.
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yea, because adults should have no accountability for their own actions. blame someone else, that's the American way.
Exactly.
Which is also why I'm annoyed at so many people blaming steroids - the media and on here ... Christ, the toxicology results won't be back for a week and everyone is already saying he was on a 'Roid Rage

Oh, and the Hart family sued McMahon and the WWE for Owen's death years ago and you can be sure there have been others.

Vince may be an egotistical prick, but he's no more to blame for this than anyone else who knew Chris.
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haha - you're an idiot, there isn't a girl i've worked with who has anything even remotely close to a drug problem or committed any crimes.
Ya, because i'm sure all girls that pose naked on the internet are completely honest people and disclose everything to their employers

Most of the time peoples families don't even know when they have a drug problem, you think they'd tell you?
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The aftermath of those revelations led the World Wrestling Federation ? since renamed World Wrestling Entertainment ? to institute a steroid-testing policy. But that program ceased in 1996.

Interesting
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"Former wrestler and current trainer ?Nightmare? Ken Wayne was on MSNBC (June 27th) ... Wayne pointed out a loophole in the WWE steroid policy as he said that while Benoit test negative for steroids back in April, if someone has a prescription, their test will come back with a negative result."
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Do some of you people REALLY belive he wasn't on steroids?



Sorry, but that is NOT natural. Steroids are taken in cycles for short periods of time. His passing a test means only that he wasn't taking them at the exact moment the test was given.
not saying that he wasn't, but it is possible to have a large physique and not be on steroids. hard work and proper diet can do the trick
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As for other drug use, many former WWE names have been released due to drug abuse. The largest name most recently was Kurt Angle who was addicted to painkillers (allegedly). If Batista does become a junkie don't think his job would be any safer than Kurt's.

a lot of people say this was a cover statement given by the WWE because kurt never once failed a drug test.

However WWE testing policy like TNA returns a negative if your levels are within prescribed specs. So if you have a perscription for pain killers if you have the maximum level that you would have if you were taking the dosage perscribed then you would still pass.


Kurt wanted to fight MMA and WWE did not want him to do that because it was a lose lose proposition for them. If he lost it would make the ECW brand look bad, if he did well then he would get better offers from MMA and they would have to pay more to keep him.
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Or how about we blame Benoit for being a total fuckhead?

Why is it these days we always want to blame someone or something for someones PERSONAL actions?

Ya it was vince, it was also TV, video games and the porn industries fault. ZZZzzzz

MAYBE just MAYBE he is a total nuthead, many people have tooken steroids and not gone and killed their family. It is something in yourself that makes YOU snap.

grow up and start putting blame where it should be.

Why is it that when someone commits a crime we always dive into the supposed factors of why they did it? stick to the issue at hand and that is he is a classless idiot who killed his family.

"he has a lot of blood on his hands" is a total bullshit statement, did Vince walk in and kill his wife and kid? NO

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I certainly wouldn't trust the WWE's explaination about ANYTHING
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:32 AM   #43
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Or how about we blame Benoit for being a total fuckhead?

Why is it these days we always want to blame someone or something for someones PERSONAL actions?

Ya it was vince, it was also TV, video games and the porn industries fault. ZZZzzzz

MAYBE just MAYBE he is a total nuthead, many people have tooken steroids and not gone and killed their family. It is something in yourself that makes YOU snap.

grow up and start putting blame where it should be.

Why is it that when someone commits a crime we always dive into the supposed factors of why they did it? stick to the issue at hand and that is he is a classless idiot who killed his family.

"he has a lot of blood on his hands" is a total bullshit statement, did Vince walk in and kill his wife and kid? NO
how about we blame all the inbred idiots who go to these fucking wrestling shows that basically exist to target people with the intellect and mental capacity of a 8yr old.

Professional "Wrestling", NASCAR and Bush have to be the top 3 most embarassing things about this country.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:10 AM   #44
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If you don't like Vince now wait until he runs for office

Personally I think the choice to use steroids in wrestling is up to the individual. Wrestling is not a sport where performance-enhancing drugs can give you an unfair advantage.
wrestling is about the perception of really huge guys as much as it is about the script. these guys are cast to fit the part and when the envelope is pushed as far as the image goes others have to follow or get left behind.

its like fake tits and porn. some girls have natural big tits and make more money so the other girls get big tits to get more money.

so there is an unfair advantage to be gained.... wrestler x looks bigger than wrestler y and draws a bigger crowd
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:16 AM   #45
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This thread smells like shit from all you who are talking out your asses.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:48 AM   #46
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Professional "Wrestling", NASCAR and Bush have to be the top 3 most embarrassing things about this country.
LOL...but i like wrasslin' and been watching it since the days of Ivan Putski, Superfly Jimmy Snuka and Bob Backland.

Come to think of it, I wish i still had my autograph book with their autographs in it (among others from back then) from back when they did regular matches here in Rochester, NY and before this pay-per-view stuff existed (this was back when a pre-teen/teen could actually go up to the ring and get them to sign it before a match).
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:04 PM   #47
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Do some of you people REALLY belive he wasn't on steroids?

Sorry, but that is NOT natural. Steroids are taken in cycles for short periods of time. His passing a test means only that he wasn't taking them at the exact moment the test was given.
That picture is pretty old and he was nowhere near that ripped recently. While I don't doubt he was on steroids, he wasn't taking anywhere near the levels he used to.

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The reinstated a drug testing policy around Feb 2006. Many wrestlers have been suspended, fired and sent to rehab since.

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all those guys are on roids get real you idiots..."passed" drug tests doesnt mean much when the WWE is doing the testing and not testing for everything.
The tests are administered by an independant, third party.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:41 PM   #48
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Who cares if he took a drug test? The WWE knows all the tricks to keep their wrestlers juiced.. If they want to use them they'll find ways to pass the drug test.

Remember when Vince got in trouble for supplying steroids to the wrestlers?

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this shits super gay... I cannot stand wrestling any more...
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:32 PM   #50
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Its not vince's fault its a hard lifestyle, roids, drugs and getting battered 4-5 times a week takes its toll. Alot of these guys don't care that they will be crippled they love their job
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