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Old 06-15-2007, 10:17 AM   #1
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let me get this straight - the last man went to the moon in 1972????????

man, I'm not much of a conspiracy theories lover but something DOES smell fishy here

bunch of trips b/n 1969 and 1972 and then nothing??? why?
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Too xpensive and they didn't see the point.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:18 AM   #3
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cause its all a plot by the man to make you think that we have been to the moon.. when really its a alien spaceship like the death star only smaller
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yeah why not more moon landings...expecially if they are saying they want to hit mars soon
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We've never been to the moon it was all faked.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mouUUWpEec0
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if we've to been the moon.. then why not repeat it.
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We are supposed to go back to the moon before 2020.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/14/bush.space/
http://www.space.com/news/050919_nasa_moon.html

Let's just hope we don't suffer any more setbacks. The current space station problems are a reminder of how fast things can get derailed.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:50 AM   #11
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I remember watching the moon landing on our awesome black and white tv. That was when astronauts were REAL hero's, it was amazing.
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:00 AM   #12
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Because it's useless to go to the moon?
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:04 AM   #13
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:05 AM   #14
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:06 AM   #15
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Because computers and shuttles are far more advanced, smaller and cheaper to make now than they were back when the black and white tv was the best we could do.
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Congress didn't see a whole lot of point in it, and cut funding.... they were just lunar-geological surveys from their point of view.

It was all about getting there before the Russians did, really. Once we did that, the awe wore off, and I guess the realization that they could build more napalm if they cut lunar funding enticed them.

This time, we're planning to go back and stay - build a permanent settlement that we can use to both study the moon and use as a jumping point to other destinations such as Mars.

I think that the only reason we said "in 2018" though is because the Chinese already said "by 2020"



Oh yeah... anyone who believes we haven't really been to the moon hasn't bothered really looking into the matter. Don't be sheep.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apol...ents_LRRR.html
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:11 AM   #17
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Actually just look at the budget NASA gets and you may understand. They have a few more pressing issues and desires to accomplish than to revisit the moon with what limited money they get.

We went, we learned, we put up some mirrors, we know the moon is slowly moving away from us forever, we know it was created when another planet collided with ours, we know it shielded us from an onslaught of cosmic hits in the past, we also know that due to some of earth being up there that massive shit has hit the planet since the moon was formed.
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We are supposed to go back to the moon before 2020.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/14/bush.space/
http://www.space.com/news/050919_nasa_moon.html

Let's just hope we don't suffer any more setbacks. The current space station problems are a reminder of how fast things can get derailed.
I really hope they do go back because the speculated 1st landing had so much bullshit tied into to it. It be nice to see it all with modern technology.
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I really hope they do go back because the speculated 1st landing had so much bullshit tied into to it.
Nothing conjectural about it.

If it really bothers you, do your homework.

The conspiracy nonsense on the matter is just the result of people vying for attention, imho.
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I really hope they do go back because the speculated 1st landing had so much bullshit tied into to it. It be nice to see it all with modern technology.
It's that same modern technology that would have conspiracy theorists claiming they didn't go this time either. Some people just refuse to believe and you'll never be able to convince them unless they go themselves.
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yeah why not more moon landings...expecially if they are saying they want to hit mars soon
We are going back to the moon. First we need to get the space station up to snuff. In 2010 the shuttle will be retired. By 2015 we'll have a new vehicle this is the one that will take us to the moon.
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I have absolutely no doubt that man did go to the moon, but I have serious doubts as to whether they'll actually go again.
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man, I'm not much of a conspiracy theories lover but something DOES smell fishy here

bunch of trips b/n 1969 and 1972 and then nothing??? why?
Actually there was supposed to be an Apollo 18 but it got cut due to budget cuts. What money was available was being used for things like the Viking and Voyager probes and building the shuttle. So no there isn't any grand conspiracy. At least we went to the moon. The Russians didn't even try.
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The Russians didn't even try.
You're misinformed.

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Did they even orbit the moon? No. Kind of like me asking Angelina Jollie for a fuck and then saying I almost had sex with her.
You said "At least we went to the moon. The Russian's didn't even try."

I really don't want to get in a semantics debate, but that is, plainly, a false statement.

It could be easily argued that if it wasn't for the Russian's determination to get to the moon, we wouldn't have done it, either.

They were the first to put a man in space. The first to achieve an unmanned probe landing on the moon, and achieved lunar orbit with an unmanned probe in preparation for their manned missions.

Not to mention, they lost a notable amount of human life in their persuit of landing a man on the moon.

I'd say that's a far cry from not even trying, as you put it.
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You said "At least we went to the moon. The Russian's didn't even try."

I really don't want to get in a semantics debate, but that is, plainly, a false statement.

It could be easily argued that if it wasn't for the Russian's determination to get to the moon, we wouldn't have done it, either.

They were the first to put a man in space. The first to achieve an unmanned probe landing on the moon, and achieved lunar orbit with an unmanned probe in preparation for their manned missions.

Not to mention, they lost a notable amount of human life in their persuit of landing a man on the moon.

I'd say that's a far cry from not even trying, as you put it.
Listen don't give me a lecture on the history of space flight. I know this shit already. I was reading up on this stuff while you were shitting in your diapers.
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Listen don't give me a lecture on the history of space flight. I know this shit already. I was reading up on this stuff while you were shitting in your diapers.

No lecture here, man.

It just is.
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I don't think we've ever been. We can barely get a shuttle out of orbit, but in '69 we got something all the way to the moon, then back into space where a portion landed back on Earth. Right.
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I don't think we've ever been.
Then you should do your homework - and put that gray matter between your ears to work, imho.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apol...ents_LRRR.html

Anyone that thinks we didn't go to the moon is either not bothering to research the matter, or isn't the brightest crayon in the box.

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The whole moon landing ordeal smells very fishy to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...ax_accusations
At the time of Apollo, the Soviet Union had five times more manned hours in space than the US. They had achieved:

1. First manmade satellite in orbit (October 1957, Sputnik 1).
2. First living creature to enter orbit (November 1957, Sputnik 2).
3. First to safely return living creature from orbit, two dogs Belka and Strelka, 40 mice, 2 rats (August 1960, Sputnik 5).
4. First man in space (April 1961, Vostok 1).
5. First man to orbit the Earth (April 1961, Vostok 1).
6. First to have two spacecraft in orbit at the same time (though it was not a space rendezvous, as frequently described) (August 1962, Vostok 3 and Vostok 4).
7. First woman in space (June 1963, Vostok 6, as part of a second dual-spacecraft flight including Vostok 5).
8. First crew of three cosmonauts on board one spacecraft (October 1964, Voskhod 1).
9. First spacewalk (EVA) (March 1965, Voskhod 2).

Then the US just went to the moon, no problem. And then there is all the evidence of a hoax.
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http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apol...ents_LRRR.html

Anyone that thinks we didn't go to the moon is either not bothering to research the matter, or isn't the brightest crayon in the box.

Don't tell me. One of those people who stood out at Cape Canavaral breathless with aw as that rocket blasted off into space (tho I don't believe it went to the moon), right?
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Don't you think it's weird that the source tapes are conveniently missing? I do.
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Moon Landing Tapes Missing

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/0...06081509 3030

Aug. 15, 2006 — NASA officials are searching for the original videotapes from the first moon landing in 1969 in the hopes that they can use modern technology to produce sharper images of the event.

The video, including footage of Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walking on the moon, was transmitted from the moon to tracking stations in California and Australia. The images that were then sent to Houston — and seen by the rest of the world — were substantially degraded.

Space program veterans believe the original tracking station recordings are stored somewhere at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. Telephone calls Monday night to NASA and Goddard spokesmen were not immediately returned.

"I would simply like to clarify that the tapes are not lost as such, which implies they were badly handled, misplaced and are now gone forever. That is not the case," John Sarkissian, operations scientist at the Parkes Radio Observatory in Parkes, Australia, told the Space.com Web site.

Sarkissian also rejected any suggestion of wrongdoing on the part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. "The archiving of the tapes was simply a lower priority during the Apollo era," he said.

In a paper published in May, Sarkissian wrote that the use of digital processing techniques on the tapes would make it "possible to recover the original high quality TV of the first lunar EVA (extravehicular activity) and make it available to the public for the first time."

"The Apollo 11 mission represents a defining moment in human history," Sarkissian wrote. "For the sake of posterity and the benefit of future generations, it is imperative that the search for the Apollo 11 magnetic data tapes be more vigorously pursued."
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Someone made a great movie, and I believe it is called Capricorn 1. it tells a story about the moon landings.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:53 AM   #47
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Seriously guys...

I don't normally get this way, but since some of you don't seem bright enough to do it yourself, I'll connect the dots for you.

If, indeed, we never went to the moon - what have dozens of dozens of scientists - all over the world - been aiming various laser beams at since the Apollo 11 mission?

We've learned the moon is moving away from us, ya know...

http://physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/lrrr.html

What about all those variously-funded and internationally owned scientific community "listening posts" that independently picked up human voice transmission from the moon every mission since Apollo 11? Were they just making it up, too?



So someone wanted to grab a bit of history and stuff the footage in their attic when it came to the tapes... or whatever... That, and all the other half-wit evidence that people have come up with to argue we never went to the moon doesn't disprove the fact that like any scientist in the world that wants physical proof that we went to the moon is welcome to observe the evidence and have at it.

Here's a decent page to thumb through, if you're still not convinced: http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm

It's you loonies that claim things, knowingly, like "we never went to the moon" that give 'conspiracy theories" a bad rep.

Skepticism is a healthy thing.

Idiocracy isn't.

And spreading idiocracy is down-right unhealthy.

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Old 06-18-2007, 12:31 PM   #48
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We've never been to the moon it was all faked.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mouUUWpEec0
Funny shit man! Where did that come from?
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:32 PM   #49
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if we've to been the moon.. then why not repeat it.
Right on, cause after all money is no object, right?
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:06 PM   #50
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Less moon and more poon. Maybe a little of Uranus too. ;)
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