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![]() was so mad yesterday but after reading----BEST FUCKIN ENDING EVER CREATED
TONY IS DEAD Body: Tony Soprano was killed.... In fact, the ending was genius if you've paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell y'all why and explain in detail... There was 4 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony..... The two black guys were paid before to kill Tony when his mother put a hit out on him but he was clipped in the ear in Season One. The trucker at the booth near Tony was the brother of a Trucker, Christopher killed in DVD player robbery. We last saw the brother when he went to identify his dead brother's body. And lastly, from the earlier seasons, the Italian man who was sitting at the counter stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki Leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew. He was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down.... Here is where the genius comes in.... When Tony walks into the Holston's, you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at... Then the camera switches back to Tony's face, then it once again switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in..... Everytime the door opens the chimes sound....... Carmela walks in, Chimes. AJ walks in, Chimes. This all happens while Meadow is parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant.... At this point the camera switches back Nikki Leotardo who goes in the bathroom... Then it goes to a scene where Meadow finally parks and starts running into the diner... The door is about to open, Tony looks up... and No Chimes... No Music... Everything just goes black... In one of the early episodes of the Sopranos, Tonys is talking with Bobby about what it must feel like to die. Bobby says, "at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black!" This idea was revisited in the second to last episode during the last seconds of it, when Tony is about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and Bobby on the boat... "You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black" So in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when Meadow came in, someone killed Tony. This is the reason you didn't hear or see sh!t when he died.... it was from his perspective... and everything went black, then the credits. bada bing |
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Where did you read this? It makes a lot of sense.
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guaranteed leaked by the show. they want this to turn into one of those things. conspiracy and theory idiots will analyze it and keep the show going forever.
brilliant by them. |
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I noticed Leotardo too. This is the most logical explanation.
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either way, the last episode was a mind FUCK to say the least. Smoke coming into the SUV (without seeing flames) with AJ saying "are you ready to do this". Meadow pulling out of the spot and trying to get back in, feeling like shes going to get hit any minute, Paulie walking into the Bing all by himself in the middle of the night, the ending with Tony....
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This could be quite interesting
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Yeah... i was reminded about the part with Bobby earlier today.
After reading the idea more fleshed out - it does make a lot of sense.
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that makes sense .. I hope it was meant that way ..i'll feel a lot better ..lol
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FUCKIN AWSOME..
Im posting this on my myspace to look like im a genius.
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I think this puts a new spin on everything. If this is true, then it's genius and is totally worth watching again. I think people will talk about this for years. Brilliant.
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I just watched it again, when she walks in it does chime... then it goes black. That's still a good way to look at it.
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The only problem with this theory is that none of those people in the diner are really the people that you say they are- the black guys, the guy at the counter or the other man. That is just overreaching. It would be a preposterous coincidence if at least four people randomly entering a restaurant would want to kill the title character. And to make it such obscure people from seasons ago and focused on in the final episode for mere seconds would be very stupid writing.
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That is pretty cool. I thought it was an awesome ending before. When the Journey song says "Don't Stop" and everything stops.
Haha..now it makes even more sense.
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Chase left everything up to viewer interpretation.
This explanation is one of the most brainless I have seen yet. If you watch the scene again you will see that there is NOT ONE first person perspective shot. NOT ONE. There are shots of the door, but none from Tony's perspective. Not to mention that we don't hear a peep from Carm or AJ who are sitting facing Tony. The Sopranos was a family drama. All was set right when we last left them. AJ is still spoiled just like he was, Meadow knows what she wants, Carm is still cool with absolutely everything (however fucked) that is going on as long as she gets what she wants, and Tony is facing legal trouble. There is nothing more to tell. Just as we entered Tony's life in the middle of a transition, we have now left it in the middle of another transition. We were given so many hints throughout the episode that Tony and his family's life would continue after the fade to black. That we weren't really witnessing the end and nothing has really changed. Tony bitching to AJ's psychiatrist is one example. David Chase didn't give us a beginning, why the fuck does he need to give us an ending? The final scene gave us a glimpse into Tony's life where he always has to wonder when his time is going to come. He is with his family in public and vulnerable. Make no mistake about it that is an everyday thing. It's nothing new, it didn't just suddenly start after the war was over. He is a mob boss, paranoia is his job. The cut to black was left for us to interpret. My guess? Life goes on. Stop reaching with the stupid theories that have little to no evidence to support.
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From an Interview with/about Chase:
"I feel the need to debunk the e-mail that's making the rounds about all the Holsten's patrons being characters from earlier in the series. The actor playing Member's Only guy had never been on the show before, Tony killed at least, one if not both of his carjackers, and there are about 17 other things wrong with this popular but incorrect theory." So, let's stop repeating this obvious crap. |
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Yeah, I have been thinking about the whole "everything goes black" thing for a bit and even though in theory it's a good artsy, fartsy ending, it just doesn't seem to go with the way we've PERCIEVED the show to be and kept resisting for the past couple seasons.
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I love the cocaine!
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