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KimJI · 06-12-2007, 10:00 AM

Programs should offer Wiretransfers.
CCbill can, so why cant anyone else. Set it at $200 minimum, that way its not a waste of time for the program owner

Nicky · 06-12-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by You Forgot Poland

I was supposed to be released like 3 years ago.

So? It's still being worked on

crockett · 06-12-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

Too bad paypal pulled the plug back in the day.

Any why do you think paypal pulled the plug?

It happened right after they were hit by heavy fines for doing gambling transactions on the web..

p1mpdogg · 06-12-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ARS Bryan

ARS still offers standard checks, overnight checks, wire transfers, direct deposit, and Epassporte!

http://www.adultrevenueservice.com

nice going slick...

lmk when you post your next thread

p1mpdogg · 06-12-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI

Programs should offer Wiretransfers.
CCbill can, so why cant anyone else. Set it at $200 minimum, that way its not a waste of time for the program owner

epiccash has checks and wires i think just about every program does thats fairly large.

BucksMania · 06-12-2007, 10:11 AM

i think we all will really appreciate if they let us know if they are going to drop gambling or not

ill send the thread to one of them

Nicky · 06-12-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

epiccash has checks and wires i think just about every program does thats fairly large.

Yea, any mid/large sponsor proggie offer wire transfers, epassporte is nice when it's working smooth though

BucksMania · 06-12-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI

Programs should offer Wiretransfers.
CCbill can, so why cant anyone else. Set it at $200 minimum, that way its not a waste of time for the program owner

the most of the programs do
but they are very expensive compared to ePass

p1mpdogg · 06-12-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BucksMania

the most of the programs do
but they are very expensive compared to ePass

do you want assurance your money will get to you, or risk it being frozen like the many horror stories posted here in the past.

thats a question each affiliate has to ask themselves.

mikeyddddd · 06-12-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

yeah... I got that too. hehe

I figured they used the wrong variable or hardcoded "JOSH" instead of using the name variable from the account.

'So Fucking Money · 06-12-2007, 10:30 AM

We've had a positive response when it comes to our affiliates. I have been getting praise on this issue and it's good to hear. We have only had one guy so angry he actually closed his acct.

DateDoc · 06-12-2007, 10:30 AM

It will be interesting to see how many of your affiliate accts have a sudden change of mailing address - lol!

'So Fucking Money · 06-12-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

I figured they used the wrong variable or hardcoded "JOSH" instead of using the name variable from the account.

This issue has been fixed, JOSH.(hah)

Thanks for letting us know, mikey

KimJI · 06-12-2007, 10:34 AM

Was not aware how many programs have started to offer wire. I only promote a few tbh, and I selected them at the time because they had wire.

But I love my Epass, its the best way for me to pay designers and traffic

p1mpdogg · 06-12-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI

Was not aware how many programs have started to offer wire. I only promote a few tbh, and I selected them at the time because they had wire.

But I love my Epass, its the best way for me to pay designers and traffic

do a search on gfy for epassporte.

maybe you will smarten up

The Duck · 06-12-2007, 10:37 AM

fucked in the head

You Forgot Poland · 06-12-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Yes, and the banks and the people receiving the money at the end of the line are in the US... where it's illegal. Dumbass.

Illegal what? To receive money?

It's only illegal if you are (as an US citizen) use Epassporte for gambling.

Fucking idiot.

KimJI · 06-12-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

do a search on gfy for epassporte.

maybe you will smarten up

I dont recive money to my epass, that is what i was trying to say. I transfer money to it from my Bank's webinterface to the Epass, and then pay the designers and the traffic. I'm not a huge webmaster like some of you guys, I dont deal in 6digit numbers. It can cost me $90+ to make a expres wire transfere to a American bank, so its a hell cheaper for me to keep 1-2k in my Epass and then use that for the small amounts I need to send back and forth

V_RocKs · 06-12-2007, 11:38 AM

The NetTeller problems... They did not listen to the Gov't... So the Gov't jailed two of their top officers when they came to America (for a convention?). To get their people back NetTeller had to give the Gov't what they wanted, the names and pertinent info on everyone who had $10,000 or more in their accounts.

Why did the US do this? Because Line 11 on your tax return says that if you ever amassed more than $9999.99 in an offshore account (which both NetTeller and Epassporte are) then you have to let the US know. So now if you won $12K in a poker tourney and moved the money to your NetTeller account you now are due for penalties for failing to declare the money was offshore.

And that pertinent data: It says you moved the money as a single transaction from Ultimate Bet. So now you failed to declare income. You owe taxes and interest and penalties there too...

What is the difference between Epassporte and NetTeller? Good question... Anyone from Epassporte care to tell us?

Any US affiliates ever have more than $10,000 in their Epassporte account and fail to check that box? Better amend your return before they come looking for you.

dready · 06-12-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by You Forgot Poland

Illegal what? To receive money?

It's only illegal if you are (as an US citizen) use Epassporte for gambling.

Fucking idiot.

You seem to have missed the point.

doopix · 06-12-2007, 12:21 PM

You should try with payoneer.com
They're offering real Mastercard for $9.95 and anyone can fund your account with: VISA, Mastercard and Direct Deposit.

KimJI · 06-12-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by doopix

You should try with payoneer.com
They're offering real Mastercard for $9.95 and anyone can fund your account with: VISA, Mastercard and Direct Deposit.

Their monthly, transfer and card fees are higher than my bank, so dont see why that is a alternative.

OneWhoKnows · 06-12-2007, 01:19 PM

OK, let me point this out then: I WANT ALTERNATIVES!

If all sponsors pull the plug on ePass sooner or later now, this will make them vanish even before US banks or the government do anything. So why the hell doesn't anybody put up a solid alternative NOW? This has been discussed 2 years ago already, and still there's not one real alternative to ePass.

And about all the "all you idiots who use ePass, use wires or cheques instead" rants... This is NOT an alternative for most European based webmasters like me. USD cheque withrawal costs me about 20EUR for EACH damn cheque. Receiving international wires? About the same!! Now imagine that I get like 5 cheques or wires around $100 from several sponsors per month. This would be the result:

$500 = 375 EUR
375 EUR - 100 EUR (5x20 for withdrawal) = 275 EUR
275 EUR = $365

I would lose $135 every month only for receiving my hard earned money and getting it on my damn bank account. Of course it would be lots more, if I receive more than 5 cheques (which would be the case).

So for me no ePass would mean I'd have to stop being an adult webmaster, simple as that. And I didn't even ask the question how I should pay my hosting, designers and so on without ePass!

shaliza · 06-12-2007, 02:25 PM

ePassporte is committed to the Adult Industry, as our presence, support, sponsorship and staff have demonstrated for close to 5 years. This is not the case with some banks. Most of us have experienced problems in even having bank accounts at certain banks (B of A in particular) as we ??have income from pornography??). This has happened to some of the largest companies in Adult.

And for those that say that some problems are because ?ePassporte is in gaming?, that is untrue. We have never had any involvement in any illegal activities. We do have a few poker clients, no sports or casino sites.

Please consider that ePassporte has the largest Adult Sponsor programs using us as a payment method. We process millions of payments every month in the Adult Industry. We have been doing this for 5 years. Most of you know our Team. ePassporte is here for the long term, no matter what you hear.

Again, we are sorry for any inconvenience that third parties cause our clients and our business.

OneWhoKnows · 06-12-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shaliza

And for those that say that some problems are because “ePassporte is in gaming”, that is untrue. We have never had any involvement in any illegal activities. We do have a few poker clients, no sports or casino sites.

So poker sites are legal in the US, just casino sites aren't? Can somebody please confirm that?

suesheboy · 06-12-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows

So poker sites are legal in the US, just casino sites aren't? Can somebody please confirm that?

Not true.

It's like being partially pregnant.

Illegal gaming is illegal gaming.

European people don't like the cost of selling US porn should sell European porn.

pornguy · 06-12-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KimJI

I dont recive money to my epass, that is what i was trying to say. I transfer money to it from my Bank's webinterface to the Epass, and then pay the designers and the traffic. I'm not a huge webmaster like some of you guys, I dont deal in 6digit numbers. It can cost me $90+ to make a expres wire transfere to a American bank, so its a hell cheaper for me to keep 1-2k in my Epass and then use that for the small amounts I need to send back and forth

What Trey us trying to tell you, is that even with what you are doing, you risk losing your bank account.

Be very careful.

OneWhoKnows · 06-12-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

European people don't like the cost of selling US porn should sell European porn.

Doh. Very smart. How about 95% of the European programs pay out in USD only aswell, just because the majority of their affiliates is from the US?

Lee · 06-12-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterPorn

It will be interesting to see how many of your affiliate accts have a sudden change of mailing address - lol!

Well I did, but I genuinely moved house during the time Ive used ep.

dready · 06-12-2007, 04:30 PM

Looks like Fantasy Girl Revenue just dropped them too.

Chio · 06-15-2007, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by You Forgot Poland

I was supposed to be released like 3 years ago.

It *is* done... has been for years. We'll leave it at that for now.

Chio · 06-15-2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows

OK, let me point this out then: I WANT ALTERNATIVES!

If all sponsors pull the plug on ePass sooner or later now, this will make them vanish even before US banks or the government do anything. So why the hell doesn't anybody put up a solid alternative NOW? This has been discussed 2 years ago already, and still there's not one real alternative to ePass.

And about all the "all you idiots who use ePass, use wires or cheques instead" rants... This is NOT an alternative for most European based webmasters like me. USD cheque withrawal costs me about 20EUR for EACH damn cheque. Receiving international wires? About the same!! Now imagine that I get like 5 cheques or wires around $100 from several sponsors per month. This would be the result:

$500 = 375 EUR
375 EUR - 100 EUR (5x20 for withdrawal) = 275 EUR
275 EUR = $365

I would lose $135 every month only for receiving my hard earned money and getting it on my damn bank account. Of course it would be lots more, if I receive more than 5 cheques (which would be the case).

So for me no ePass would mean I'd have to stop being an adult webmaster, simple as that. And I didn't even ask the question how I should pay my hosting, designers and so on without ePass!

It's done. It's in beta and people here have seen it. I'll leave it at that. Expect an announcement soon.

OneWhoKnows · 06-16-2007, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chio

It's done. It's in beta and people here have seen it. I'll leave it at that. Expect an announcement soon.

WOW! This sounds really promising. Hope 2 hear something about it soon

06-12-2007, 10:00 AM	#51
KimJI Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: So fucking gone Posts: 1,839	Programs should offer Wiretransfers. CCbill can, so why cant anyone else. Set it at $200 minimum, that way its not a waste of time for the program owner __________________ Trafficadept \| Best traffic I have ever tested \| web "@t" cuul.org

06-12-2007, 10:30 AM	#61
'So Fucking Money Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 694	We've had a positive response when it comes to our affiliates. I have been getting praise on this issue and it's good to hear. We have only had one guy so angry he actually closed his acct. __________________ The Print Foundry Co. - Design & Print Shop - ICQ: 371115529

06-12-2007, 10:30 AM	#62
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	It will be interesting to see how many of your affiliate accts have a sudden change of mailing address - lol! __________________

06-12-2007, 10:34 AM	#64
KimJI Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: So fucking gone Posts: 1,839	Was not aware how many programs have started to offer wire. I only promote a few tbh, and I selected them at the time because they had wire. But I love my Epass, its the best way for me to pay designers and traffic __________________ Trafficadept \| Best traffic I have ever tested \| web "@t" cuul.org

06-12-2007, 10:37 AM	#66
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	fucked in the head __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

06-12-2007, 10:11 AM	#56
BucksMania Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,758	i think we all will really appreciate if they let us know if they are going to drop gambling or not ill send the thread to one of them

06-12-2007, 11:38 AM	#69
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	The NetTeller problems... They did not listen to the Gov't... So the Gov't jailed two of their top officers when they came to America (for a convention?). To get their people back NetTeller had to give the Gov't what they wanted, the names and pertinent info on everyone who had $10,000 or more in their accounts. Why did the US do this? Because Line 11 on your tax return says that if you ever amassed more than $9999.99 in an offshore account (which both NetTeller and Epassporte are) then you have to let the US know. So now if you won $12K in a poker tourney and moved the money to your NetTeller account you now are due for penalties for failing to declare the money was offshore. And that pertinent data: It says you moved the money as a single transaction from Ultimate Bet. So now you failed to declare income. You owe taxes and interest and penalties there too... What is the difference between Epassporte and NetTeller? Good question... Anyone from Epassporte care to tell us? Any US affiliates ever have more than $10,000 in their Epassporte account and fail to check that box? Better amend your return before they come looking for you.

06-12-2007, 12:21 PM	#71
doopix Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 62	You should try with payoneer.com They're offering real Mastercard for $9.95 and anyone can fund your account with: VISA, Mastercard and Direct Deposit.

06-12-2007, 01:19 PM	#73
OneWhoKnows Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: European Union Posts: 873	OK, let me point this out then: I WANT ALTERNATIVES! If all sponsors pull the plug on ePass sooner or later now, this will make them vanish even before US banks or the government do anything. So why the hell doesn't anybody put up a solid alternative NOW? This has been discussed 2 years ago already, and still there's not one real alternative to ePass. And about all the "all you idiots who use ePass, use wires or cheques instead" rants... This is NOT an alternative for most European based webmasters like me. USD cheque withrawal costs me about 20EUR for EACH damn cheque. Receiving international wires? About the same!! Now imagine that I get like 5 cheques or wires around $100 from several sponsors per month. This would be the result: $500 = 375 EUR 375 EUR - 100 EUR (5x20 for withdrawal) = 275 EUR 275 EUR = $365 I would lose $135 every month only for receiving my hard earned money and getting it on my damn bank account. Of course it would be lots more, if I receive more than 5 cheques (which would be the case). So for me no ePass would mean I'd have to stop being an adult webmaster, simple as that. And I didn't even ask the question how I should pay my hosting, designers and so on without ePass!

06-12-2007, 02:25 PM	#74
shaliza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 548	ePassporte is committed to the Adult Industry, as our presence, support, sponsorship and staff have demonstrated for close to 5 years. This is not the case with some banks. Most of us have experienced problems in even having bank accounts at certain banks (B of A in particular) as we ??have income from pornography??). This has happened to some of the largest companies in Adult. And for those that say that some problems are because ?ePassporte is in gaming?, that is untrue. We have never had any involvement in any illegal activities. We do have a few poker clients, no sports or casino sites. Please consider that ePassporte has the largest Adult Sponsor programs using us as a payment method. We process millions of payments every month in the Adult Industry. We have been doing this for 5 years. Most of you know our Team. ePassporte is here for the long term, no matter what you hear. Again, we are sorry for any inconvenience that third parties cause our clients and our business. __________________ Email: shaliza.somani at ePassporte dot com

06-12-2007, 04:30 PM	#80
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	Looks like Fantasy Girl Revenue just dropped them too. __________________ ICQ: 91139591