BRO News Update: Breaking news - AVN responds to selling PirateBay traffic.

[will76]

Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

AVN Ads and Adbrite's sites are two different sites. If you go to AVN Ads and find a Pirate Bay ad for sale, let me know and I'll look into having it pulled. Adbrite.com is not under our umbrella of sites. Adbrite is a business partner, it is not an AVN entity.
Saying that, I will speak to them about whether or not they should be associated with a torrent site and hopefully come to a resolution. It is probably just a case of not monitoring inventory close enough.
In the meantime, if you would like to discuss with me further, feel free to send me a message on ICQ.

So adbrite and avn ads are two totally different sites, they are just "business partners".

1. The both use their same 800# Google this number: (877) 232-5200 it will show avn ads and adbrite.

2. The two sites are identical except for color and name.

3. Both AVN ads and adbrite is hosted on the same server:



4. The same person owns them and created both programs:

Originally Posted by press.adbrite.com/latimes.html

Kaplan also created a separate advertising network, AVN Ads, dedicated to sex-related ads and websites, to keep AdBrite squarely in the mainstream.

5. Check out these two pages:





Looks like it is on AVN ADs and Adbrite. Didn't you say you would have it pulled if you found on avn ads? There it is... What is the difference anyway both sites are identical use the same phone numbers, same owner, same shit. So when you getting it removed ?

Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

It is probably just a case of not monitoring inventory close enough.

Ahhh, that's what happened. Pirate bay signed up on their own without AVN knowing, made their page on avn's site and started using avn to sell traffic on their site and all of this just slipped through the cracks and got overlooked. yeah right. You think people are that stupid ??? DH would give his left nut to broker deals for Pirate bay I would bet anything that the people at the top knew about this and they were persuing pirate bay to get a deal with them.

please tell us more bullshit,we are all just idiots. Tell us how xbiz made you do it That seems to be a response that some people can rationalize. Maybe you should blame it on an affiliate and suspend "his" account.

[»Rob Content«]

This will be good. 100-1 that AVN never replies.

When people get caught in shit, why do they fucking lie soo badly.

[directfiesta]

pretty much clear cut .... nice work

[tony286]

I wish they would just say fuck you it would be less insulting.

[Aussie Rebel]

The industry leaders = AVN + AFF = Bro's club = Bunch of Cock suckers

[Brujah]

so AVN Ads is basically just a white label or cobrand of Adbrite, which has nothing at all to do with AVN?

[L-Pink]

And this years winner for best video getting pirated is .......

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Brujah

so AVN Ads is basically just a white label or cobrand of Adbrite, which has nothing at all to do with AVN?

From my talks with them at Ad Tech, they are two different companies. Mainstream and adult don't mix.

[Sosa]

first page atleast

[will76]

Originally Posted by tony404

I wish they would just say fuck you it would be less insulting.

Me too.... a " fuck off " would be soo much more refreshing than " we will look into it" or "it is not under our umbrella of sites".


Baddog, I guess everything above is just an illusion ? You can say you are two different companies till you are blue in the face, it doesn't make it so just because you say so. It's like adultfriendfinder and friendfinder saying they are two different companies because one is adult and the other is mainstream

[HighSociety]

this is like paymonde and fund2go.

[JFK]

just in time

[munki]

Looks to me like AVNads, or the portion of the site in the screen cap from above , is an Adbrite mirror-type site...

This in no way means that Adbrite is AVNads or vice versa, more like AVNads partnered with Adbrite to manage and sell their ad space... A "reseller relationship" if you will. A very typical setup in many industries.

Not taking a pro or con on either companies actions... just pointing out what little I know that might apply.

[dissipate]

When you call avnads support you get adbrite.

[FreeHugeMovies]

Bro master of the year. I vote will!

[will76]

Originally Posted by dissipate

When you call avnads support you get adbrite.

That's all part of the " mirror" that the previous poster was mentioning. All "business partners" do that. They have owners that create both sites, they share hosting, they share phone numbers, they share designers, etc.. it's all a mirror thing. No affiliation to each other, other than "business partners".

[TDF]

first page..here we go

[jact]

I just wanted to say hi to my adoring fans.

[Pleasurepays]

i was talking with a partner of mine on ICQ the other day about the old days. he made the interesting point that in the beginning, there were a lot of rogues.. but they were lovable rogues. they had redeeming qualities. today, people are just total thieving pricks with zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.

i am with Tony404. tell me that it is how it is, and i am totally fine with it. i can respect that and i will then decide whether i want to do business with you or not, based on my own personal morals and how much money can be made.

but jesus christ... whats with all the people that are square in the spotlight, caught lying, caught stealing and then lying like 5yr olds that just broke a window... as if everyone is so completely stupid and naive to know the difference? i don't get that at all. its far more offensive that being told the truth.

[xxxice]

Originally Posted by baddog

From my talks with them at Ad Tech, they are two different companies. Mainstream and adult don't mix.

This is the quote of the year lol

[will76]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i was talking with a partner of mine on ICQ the other day about the old days. he made the interesting point that in the beginning, there were a lot of rogues.. but they were lovable rogues. they had redeeming qualities. today, people are just total thieving pricks with zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.

i am with Tony404. tell me that it is how it is, and i am totally fine with it. i can respect that and i will then decide whether i want to do business with you or not, based on my own personal morals and how much money can be made.

but jesus christ... whats with all the people that are square in the spotlight, caught lying, caught stealing and then lying like 5yr olds that just broke a window... as if everyone is so completely stupid and naive to know the difference? i don't get that at all. its far more offensive that being told the truth.

I agree with that 100%. The bullshit lies just seems more like an insult to our intelligence then anything else. It's like the bros get together and spend a couple minutes trying to come up with something, just laugh and say " just tell them anything, they are all stupid noobs!"

[TampaToker]

xbiz daily news>>>>>will76 bounty goes up again. Wanted dead or alive!

[woj]

taking this first page sigspot

[DateDoc]

Nice work Will. You would think they would take piratebay off AVN before they claim it is not there or that they are unaware it is there. I have always it is a good idea to know what your business is doing inside and out or you can get caught with your pants dowm.

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286

[xclusive]

Fuck avn for fucking us

[Miguel T]

Nice info you managed to get there.

[RAM]

Wiating for the responce ??

There has to be something to say

[dig0]

Nothing beats a drama thread to start the day.

Personally, I would have MORE respect for a company if they admitted their wrongdoings and just lamely started posting in panic making a good 10 page thread. With all the silence, this just sucks.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by RAM

Wiating for the responce ??

There has to be something to say

It was the weekend

[jact]

Monday morning bumpage.

[will76]

Originally Posted by JFK

It was the weekend

Monday now...

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by made2ordervideos

this is like paymonde and fund2go.

My thoughts exactly.

Originally Posted by will76

Me too.... a " fuck off " would be soo much more refreshing than " we will look into it" or "it is not under our umbrella of sites".


Baddog, I guess everything above is just an illusion ? You can say you are two different companies till you are blue in the face, it doesn't make it so just because you say so. It's like adultfriendfinder and friendfinder saying they are two different companies because one is adult and the other is mainstream

Right. This is like me having two different LLC's for my mainstream projects, and adult. Two different mailing addresses, and corporate names. However I own them both.

[Mutt]

i've always know that Pud owned both AdBrite and AVN Ads - the AVN name is just a licensing deal for the name and connections to adult I think.

[KimJI]

see sig

[will76]

Originally Posted by Mutt

i've always know that Pud owned both AdBrite and AVN Ads - the AVN name is just a licensing deal for the name and connections to adult I think.

AVN Ads and Adbrite are definetly the same company. If AVN doesn't own either of the two then that is another story. If AVN has nothing to do with adbrite / avn ads then they might want to get their name pulled from that deal. They might want to stop defending them as well.

bump for answers instead of silence.

[MJ_AVN]

Again, Adbrite is not owned by AVN. We are partners in their adult ad network, which is AVN Ads. AVN Ads is a white label that traffics adult ads, hence it has the same look as Adbrite, customer service, etc. They handle certain aspects of the site, such as these, the technology, etc. We handle others, such as the marketing. If someone could show me a link to a Pirate Bay ad on AVN Ads we could look at adressing the issue. I couldn't find one.

[jact]

I had a conversation about this with an industry friend last night. Their sentiment was basically "Oh well, someone's going to do it and it's AVN afterall". What does that say about AVN's reputation?

[fusionx]

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286

[fris]

they arent bros anymore

[Kram]

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286

[will76]

Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

Again, Adbrite is not owned by AVN. We are partners in their adult ad network, which is AVN Ads. AVN Ads is a white label that traffics adult ads, hence it has the same look as Adbrite, customer service, etc. They handle certain aspects of the site, such as these, the technology, etc. We handle others, such as the marketing. If someone could show me a link to a Pirate Bay ad on AVN Ads we could look at adressing the issue. I couldn't find one.

How do you explain pirate bay on AVN ADS????????????????????????????

[will76]

Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

Again, Adbrite is not owned by AVN. We are partners in their adult ad network, which is AVN Ads. AVN Ads is a white label that traffics adult ads, hence it has the same look as Adbrite, customer service, etc. They handle certain aspects of the site, such as these, the technology, etc. We handle others, such as the marketing. If someone could show me a link to a Pirate Bay ad on AVN Ads we could look at adressing the issue. I couldn't find one.

Ok so the same guy owns adbrite partnered up with AVN to do AVN ADs..

Why does AVN ADs sell pirate bay traffic ?

AVN Ads and Adbrite are so cross mingled that even though you claim you are only partners with one, you are really in bed with both.

So much for being an industry leader. You sell Piratebay traffic and you are " partners" with the site that is selling tons of other torrent traffic.

[KrisKross]

Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

Again, Adbrite is not owned by AVN. We are partners in their adult ad network, which is AVN Ads. AVN Ads is a white label that traffics adult ads, hence it has the same look as Adbrite, customer service, etc. They handle certain aspects of the site, such as these, the technology, etc. We handle others, such as the marketing. If someone could show me a link to a Pirate Bay ad on AVN Ads we could look at adressing the issue. I couldn't find one.

Are you kidding me? I've never been on your site before and I found it in less than two minutes. A link and a screenshot was also posted earlier in the thread.

[Lance69]

Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

Again, Adbrite is not owned by AVN. We are partners in their adult ad network, which is AVN Ads. AVN Ads is a white label that traffics adult ads, hence it has the same look as Adbrite, customer service, etc. They handle certain aspects of the site, such as these, the technology, etc. We handle others, such as the marketing. If someone could show me a link to a Pirate Bay ad on AVN Ads we could look at adressing the issue. I couldn't find one.

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286
Um I don't wanna be an ass or anything, but did you search with a blindfold and the power off? This page and link has been shown a few times now.
I'm not really qualified just yet to comment on such issues but it's not like rocket science to find the ads... just sayin'.

[MJ_AVN]

I searched on Friday and at the time only found it on Adbrite, not on AVN Ads. Obviously, it's there now. We're looking into it.

Originally Posted by Lance69

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286
Um I don't wanna be an ass or anything, but did you search with a blindfold and the power off? This page and link has been shown a few times now.
I'm not really qualified just yet to comment on such issues but it's not like rocket science to find the ads... just sayin'.

[Jman]

Is there still room, can I sit here and watch ?

[will76]

Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

I searched on Friday and at the time only found it on Adbrite, not on AVN Ads. Obviously, it's there now. We're looking into it.

We making headway.....



" they are looking into it ".

[xxxice]

Originally Posted by Lance69

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286
Um I don't wanna be an ass or anything, but did you search with a blindfold and the power off? This page and link has been shown a few times now.
I'm not really qualified just yet to comment on such issues but it's not like rocket science to find the ads... just sayin'.

Someone needs to post a picture of the Iraq information minister. There is nothing to see here lol.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by vanderweb

Someone needs to post a picture of the Iraq information minister. There is nothing to see here lol.

Denial is a powerfull tool

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Denial is a powerfull tool