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Donkey Punch · 06-06-2007, 07:55 AM

I'll start...

K.I.S.S

Keep It Simple Silly.

No matter what you're doing, keep it simple.

Don't over think or make things overly complicated.

Andiz · 06-06-2007, 07:59 AM

I like this thread

My tip:

This whole webmaster thing is not a sprint.....

It's a MARATHON!

The Walrus · 06-06-2007, 08:03 AM

Here is mine:

The interent is dead and there is little if any money to be made these days. Had it been 1997 you would be a millionaire.

Now pack up your laptop, take it back to Best Buy and on the way, drop your resume off at Walmart, Target and shiiit, while your at it returning your laptop, drop one off at Best Buy too.

RawAlex · 06-06-2007, 08:04 AM

Learn from Lars. Take the money and run.

GooSearch · 06-06-2007, 08:08 AM

find one niche and stick with it.. trying to promote multiple niches just starting out will frustrate the fuck out of you

budz · 06-06-2007, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andiz

I like this thread

My tip:

This whole webmaster thing is not a sprint.....

It's a MARATHON!

It's more like a death march

Dollarmansteve · 06-06-2007, 08:11 AM

there's no money in porn.

DamageX · 06-06-2007, 08:24 AM

Stay off GFY.

Jman · 06-06-2007, 08:25 AM

Send ALL your dating traffic to LoveDollars.com ;-)

Boobs · 06-06-2007, 08:27 AM

it's all about trial and error and building solid relationships

Vick! · 06-06-2007, 08:36 AM

Learn PHP/MySQL and SEO.

...and you will make enough money.

lbc213 · 06-06-2007, 08:36 AM

Hard work and persistence....oh and don't annoy Dirty Frank

CurrentlySober · 06-06-2007, 08:37 AM

If you can, shoot your own content as much as possible, and try to keep it exclusive (as much is possible)

DBS.US · 06-06-2007, 08:44 AM

"Think outside the box"
Don't copy all the other cookie cutter sites

ajrocks · 06-06-2007, 09:09 AM

cocaine will allow you to work longer but not better.

neewwman · 06-06-2007, 09:25 AM

Buy a good e-book on porn webmastering.

Vick! · 06-06-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks

cocaine will allow you to work longer but not better.

Vick! · 06-06-2007, 09:33 AM

My Best Tip:

Dedicate yourself to one project at one time.

Do not 'start' 10 projects at same time. Give all your time and effort to one project at one time. And do not start another (no matter how appealing and 'better' it is seems) unless you feel first one is in stage of initial success.

jryan89 · 06-06-2007, 09:37 AM

link trade, Link Trade, LINK TRADE!

Conversions seem to be so shitty these days that you must send a ton of traffic just to make any money!

NinjaSteve · 06-06-2007, 09:47 AM

Stay consistent and work on your projects every day.

Verity · 06-06-2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US

"Think outside the box"
Don't copy all the other cookie cutter sites

I like this point.

Think about it for a minute. You're copying those that make money, right? Those people that are industry leaders. Now, they made it because they came up with ideas that pushed the boundaries just enough, figured out what would work through trial and error. They took a risk, a calculated risk, and came up with an idea that suited the time, situation and target market. While you're busy copying them, they're busy pumping out the new idea that keeps up with progress.

Do your research, think, take a little risk every now and again and do something different.

Also, as for my tip, adult is a business like every other. You need a plan, you need to set goals, you need to be a master at learning and communication. You need to run your business, like a business!

Good Luck!

Donkey Punch · 06-06-2007, 10:26 AM

This thread is really turning in to something positive.

Thanks to everyone for making it happen. Let's keep it up.

Another tip would be to not keep all of your "eggs" in one basket.

azurecash · 06-06-2007, 10:49 AM

When you come to your first event, chill don't drink to much or grab the girls.....Happens every party.

stickyfingerz · 06-06-2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neewwman

Buy a good e-book on porn webmastering.

Hey Neewwman can you hit me up on icq please?

mhende6600 · 06-06-2007, 11:51 AM

Do not smoke pot when you first wake up, you'll never get anything done.

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nAtuRaLbEautY · 06-06-2007, 11:55 AM

people here are intelligently hot! i tell you...

Jimmy Rock · 06-06-2007, 12:20 PM

Get good Video Feeds ;)

Aussie-Mark · 06-06-2007, 12:24 PM

read GFY posts and take in as much as you can

Metalsound · 06-06-2007, 01:14 PM

Don`t even think that you will make a shit load of cash at once , probably not even a single sale in the whole month. Keep your head up and work consistently. Perseverance is the key to success. And of course a little help.

Michaelious · 06-06-2007, 02:11 PM

Good info from everyone.

Donkey Punch · 06-06-2007, 08:36 PM

Gread thread, lets keep it going !

Pornwolf · 06-06-2007, 08:44 PM

Get out the porn business before you kill any more of your time.

Go mainstream.

imafuckingaussie · 06-06-2007, 09:00 PM

LOL theres no tips yet, just obvious cliches! Work hard, get somethign that works and do it again!! think outside the box, LOL please........

DaddyHalbucks · 06-06-2007, 09:03 PM

Get a good domain name.

Boobzooka · 06-06-2007, 09:05 PM

Design for conversions, not to impress other webmasters.

Donkey Punch · 06-06-2007, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imafuckingaussie

LOL theres no tips yet, just obvious cliches! Work hard, get somethign that works and do it again!! think outside the box, LOL please........

I believe that you are mistaken, there are actually quite a few good tips.

jollyperv · 06-06-2007, 10:25 PM

Sounds pretty fucking stupid, but don't drink coffee while working if you're serious about starting in adult...you'll eventually be cracked the fuck out on it and won't get shit done. Drink water! 9 years has taught me this.

Barefootsies · 06-06-2007, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donkey Punch

I'll start...

K.I.S.S

Keep It Simple Silly.

No matter what you're doing, keep it simple.

Don't over think or make things overly complicated.

It's KIISS, and the last word's stupid. Get the cliche right sire.

Barefootsies · 06-06-2007, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

Stay consistent and work on your projects every day.

TRUE DAT

Barefootsies · 06-06-2007, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verity

I like this point.

Also, as for my tip, adult is a business like every other. You need a plan, you need to set goals, you need to be a master at learning and communication. You need to run your business, like a business!

Amen brotha

Pornwolf · 06-06-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf;

Get out the porn business before you kill any more of your time.

Go mainstream.

I guess you guys think I'm kidding.

Good luck to you all.

Antonio · 06-06-2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

I guess you guys think I'm kidding.

Good luck to you all.

Id seriously want to know how do you make money in mainstream - not the details, just the big picture:

Create decent sites (takes a lot of time)
Swap links
Wait for SE traffic

that it? my only mainstream site made $0.18 last MONTH lol

I can find 100 ways to make a few bucks in pron and 0 in mainstream
if you can spare 20 seconds and post the basics I'd be grateful

IntenseAmber · 06-06-2007, 11:32 PM

I just want to say thanks to everyone who is contributing to this thread. I am new to the industry and will take all the advice I can get!

Antonio · 06-06-2007, 11:33 PM

in pron I can get tons of promo content from sponsors, is there such thing as promo content in mainstream?

Pornwolf · 06-06-2007, 11:55 PM

Product feeds, communities, there's all kinds of tools and tricks that work better for mainstream than porn.

PPC in mainstream is better because the conversions are WAAAY lower. 1:8 is the norm if you know how to write ads.

It's just easier. I'm not saying there's no money in porn, because there is, but if you are starting out you are better off spending the learning curve time learning how to work mainstream.

Porn is a business in decline. It's not growing. In a few year's times things are going to look a bit different.

In mainstream a good site can be sold for several years revenue. In porn, that same level of site will get you 2 months revenue.

Think about it.

Antonio · 06-07-2007, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Product feeds, communities, there's all kinds of tools and tricks that work better for mainstream than porn.

PPC in mainstream is better because the conversions are WAAAY lower. 1:8 is the norm if you know how to write ads.

It's just easier. I'm not saying there's no money in porn, because there is, but if you are starting out you are better off spending the learning curve time learning how to work mainstream.

Porn is a business in decline. It's not growing. In a few year's times things are going to look a bit different.

In mainstream a good site can be sold for several years revenue. In porn, that same level of site will get you 2 months revenue.

Think about it.

I'll have to do some hardcore reading and seriously start thinking about spending at least 10% of my time on working on mainstream sites, there're like gazillion advantages in that - porn can get hit by some fucked-up law and basically I'll be left with no incmome....

RedShoe · 06-07-2007, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

It's KIISS, and the last word's stupid. Get the cliche right sire.

What does the second "I" stand for?

one eight · 06-07-2007, 01:45 AM

One thing that makes the porn industry unique is the access noobs have to large players/deals:

GFY+ICQ= all the access you should ever need. Be smart about that. Don't waste people's time. Hit them up for 2 reasons only- business and business.

Oh yeah, and test, test, test. You won't know what works best off hand. And other people's traffic/sites, etc. will perform differently than yours. So trust data.

CyberHustler · 06-07-2007, 01:54 AM

don't fuck tASSy...

CyberHustler · 06-07-2007, 02:01 AM

Oh yeah, and when you're at a convention don't forget to by your bro a drink for being a stand up guy. This is your way to the TOP

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