I think a lot of the Founding Fathers, who were intelligent, educated, people induced by French Enlightenment, humanistic democratic values, if they saw the level of this debate, I think they would go "what the hell went wrong ????"

this was truely car salesman level, wouldn't it be a good thing to elect the most wise person you can find, not the one who you want to have a beer with

k.

And I thought I had some fucked up thoughts.

I'm not gonna answer all of your questions because you guys are taking me way too serously.

What percentage of all foreign aid goes to Israel? Do you honestly believe that if Iran nuked Israel we are fire back with our own nukes in hours?

Debates dont really matter, cause Fred Thomspon will be the Republican nominee, and win the election.

what a clueless clown.
please stop reading and regurgitating whatever leftist horshit passes for Amerian history in the shit hole you call home.
The America of the founding fathers was far more religious than what we have today.
Its ok to hate your betters, you just shouldn't let it embarrass you.

The president doesn't need permission or for anyone to 'let him' drop a nuke. He can launch whenever he damn well pleases, it is his decision alone to make.


As far as the Iran situation goes, we're getting what we deserve on that front.

Nor should he be. OMG this thing with Russia is a huge deal and quite frankly I am pissed off myself . We are letting this president take away our liberties our freedoms and our say ... and we are committing treason if we say so. WTF ... There is evidence all around us if you look and I am telling ya we got deep shit happening here. Does anyone truly believe that Russia has not got new technology for nuclear offense and what is up with this China thing. No offense meant to any citizens in any country because I know we don't all hate each other. US over here have no clue all this crap is happening because our networks don't report the real serious shit, and what they do report most of us are too busy to digest its full seriousness or put the pieces together. Check out the government website on oversight. Read up on the facts that are going on in our own government and tell me there is not an agenda that clearly does not have our best interests at the center. We are stupid to sit back and let this happen. but if the GAO won't take on the oval office aint nobody else going to. We are Fucked!!

And whatever happened to the treaty that prohibits the use of mass destruction warheads let alone the manufacturing of and launch facilities created? Why are we building a launch site in Europe if we are under the United Nations agreement? Are we actually breaking that treaty? Correct me if I am wrong but I thought we as a world decided long ago never to allow that type of weapon into reality at least in site of anyone ..lol

I totally believe that the Russian president has been a pillar of democracy and believes it is working very well. I totally believe that he is honest and forth coming and this truly is a smack right in the face to all they have done and given openly and publicly. You know changing from communistic to democratic had to be hard for them to do and they sucked it up and did it and its working for them. What do we do but rub salt in the wounds. Clearly they have every right to be upset and down right hostile. I would be livid. Perhaps I am not seeing something right and I welcome any and all education as long as its fact and not bullshit. Help me to see how these things are happening... we will all pay dearly all of us in the world will end up suffering over shit like this.

Have you seen what is happening in space lately? God help us!

Seriously people we need to get educated ... the elections as they are currently being handled are in no way shape or form fair and accurate. Easily fixed and that is not even debatable it is a proven fact. As long as there are touch screens or computer interface terminals the results can be manipulated at virtually any level and avoid detection at least without serious scrutiny and in most cases not detectable. Don't believe it see for yourself at http://oversight.house.gov/investigations.asp?ID=117

If you think the people will see who they want as president i am afraid without serious changes on pennslvania ave and soon we are living in a fantasy land. This is how serious we have been duped ladies and gents.

There is a good video out on google i believe that shows exactly how it is done and how seriously unprepared we are to have the possibility of a fair election. With it only being a lil over a year away it is very unlikely we will have the time even if the best case scenario was upon us.

I watched some debate highlights on CNN... the dems and republicans are both fucking nuts. Most of them should be committed. People admit to hearing voices and being guided by god and you want to put them in charge of a country???

Crazy...

Fiddy nukes :(

Bush talked of using tactical nukes before he came to office. No idea why people elected him. Can anybody read down south?

Somehow, someone so far has talked him out of it, or the chance to use them hasn't come about. In the first years of his presidency someone in government perseuded him to back off tactical nukes until research was finished on the mega conventional bombs they were working on. They dropped one in Florida, largest conventional explosion ever, but still not as big as they needed to rival a nuke.

The experts agree that the nuclear bunker complexs in Iran are untouchable with conventional weapons, they're simply buried too deep. Apparently a small nuke could take them out, or at least contaminate the facilities and prevent them from being used for another 50 years.

Israel will nuke Iran with a silent nod from US when all avenues of diplomacy are exhausted. They would be forced too with whats been said by Ahmadinejad.

Hopefully Iran smartens up. A nuke nowadays would open the doors to their use by other nuclear nations.

We need to at least talk to the Iranians first before we nuke them.

You are sooooo FUCKING RETARDED :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Got another question, our troops say there is nothing left to destroy in Iraq we have practically leveled the place ... so what is the real reason we are over there? All I know is to invade yet another country we will likely have to have another terrorist attack. I feel like a sitting duck.. Am I seeing this wrong or are the US residents chopped liver.

The Israeli lobby community is by far the most productive in DC, many a President have tried to put Israel in its place but sooner or later they all let it go as the jews all pull together their leverage, financially and otherwise. I'd dare to say the US would treat any WMD attack on Israel as an attack on US soil.

Apparently Putin is now also worried that new radars in Czech have upset the global strategic balance.. this could be concerning for the US/EU.

Tactical nukes, a new term invented and designed to trivialize nuclear bombs.

how could this even be debateable issue in the first place? US gov't is just trying to keep it's political power above any living entity in the world!morally wrong and illogical... and they are just justifying it and covering it up with the so-call war against terror , which is really a war against impending power grab from the white house...

Best Point yet,

Apparently there are some folks who don't understand the result of any nuclear class weapon, ground detonated anywhere in the Mid-East or the US.

Unfortunately I have a feeling we shall soon find out.

How do you think Russia will respond to US setting of a nuke in that area.

Fallout is a B*tch..

I'm sure the homosexuals, political prisoners, and the last communist leader would sure disagree with you, and what you totally believe.

The simple fact that republican primarys are talking about tactical nuking (preemptive) is SO far up crazy street..

If the americans are talking about "bombing them back to the stoneage", why the hell WOULDN'T iran try and develop nuclear missiles?

hopefully they dont drop anything..........:\

wouldn't be just russia.. it be basically everyone. No one would accept USA dropping nuclear weapons. They tried that idea in Korea, and the politicians balked. If they dropped it on Iran, AFTER stating that Iran isn't safe enough to have them.. sure goes along way at creating a "responsible" reputation

True, very true

The sad thing is that it seems that some political leaders have given up on reputation. We are in a shit-hole so deep that maybe "they", (I am using that term very loosely) feel that the only way out is to esculate and try to regain control with that aproach.

Sad situation..

And some still wonder why people are out to destroy us. Seems to me your thoughts are no different than the 9/11 terrorists.

Which bits? All I've ever heard him say... or vote for, is against alternative energy sources and that the free market will deal with peak oil and governments shouldn't invest to ease the transition.. which I find pretty ridiculous... Energy dependency isn't something we can afford to be reactionary about.

He didn't vote against alternative energy, he voted against the government funding it. He votes against a lot of things that the government wants to fund. He's a libertarian. Small government. Low taxes.