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Proof that Brad Shaw owes me $900 for May/June 2000!!!!
I want payment from Brad Shaw by Friday at midnight or I'm going to take further action -- until I die you will never stop hearing me bitch about my money.
NOW the WAYBACKMACHINE PROVES THAT I DID NOT CHEAT! Here's my website on Tue Jun 13 11:56:40 2000 -- shortly before I was accused of cheating Amateur Beaver by Shaw Internet -- http://web.archive.org/web/200006131...et/topfly.html Ok here's the checks that I received... 3/8/2000 Feb $1109.05 4/7/2000 March $1958.20 5/4/2000 April $85.84 (text link program) 5/2/2000 April $1517.00 Ok here's the last check (where I was cheated out of my money) 7/27/00 $180.00 "Payment for 4 sign-ups in May and 2 sign-ups in June @ $30 ea (Agreement to pay $40 for all signups for May and June only)" No, there was never a "agreement"... I sent 20,000+ clickthroughs -- AND followed the rules. Read the Terms and Conditions -- BRAD SHAW OWES ME STILL! As you see I wasn't paid for May... and now we have proof that my site was following the terms and conditions EXACTLY: HERE ARE THE ORIGINAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS FROM MAY 10, 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ THEM AND COMPARE -- MY SITE WAS NOT CHEATING... http://web.archive.org/web/200009161...ner/terms.html AND http://web.archive.org/web/200008221...m/freecontent/ -- "Feel free to download the images for use on your site. But, there are two important rules. Amateur Beaver has to be displayed prominently on your website, and somewhere on your site, you have to mention the pictures are compliments of Amateur Beaver. You may link this through your Beaver Cash text link account." I think the real reason that I wasn't paid was Brad Shaw probably was afraid that Lensman was going to sue his ass for the Amateur Beaver site (an exact copy of AmateurPages.com) -- and this is probably why he decided not to pay webmasters -- because he was about to close down the program -- which he eventually did shortly after. I wasn't the only webmaster that he tried to cheat out of payment!!!!!!!! |
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Why eat popcorn when you can eat Brad Shaw's pizza... LOL
<img src="http://www.theflyinc.com/internext/PICT0086.JPG"> TheFLY eats Pizza in Brad Shaw's booth at Internext Florida 2002... |
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and I know that you don't even need the money. it's just the PRINCIPLE of the thing. I'm still owed almost $400 from Smutcash's per click program long ago. I was never accused of cheating. I just never got my money.
One seems to never forget the few dollars he was cheated out of.
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Fly, i think you ate enough pizza at Brad's booth that you should be kind enough to subtract the $1.50 per slice from what he owes you.
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lol, thats Brad in the background!
hehehe! I told you he was giving you the eye as you were scarfing all his pizza. Too funny! Why didnt you approach him at his booth about this matter? Nevermind.... Someone hand me some popcorn
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he only owes you 180.00??
Wtf?
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BESIDES if you read the TOS, I should have been paid at $.04 if I was worse than 1:800!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FROM THE TOS: "If your ratio drops below 1:800 you payout rate will be dropped down to 4 cents a hit. " SO EVEN IF I DID CONVERT AT 1:4000 he still should have paid me $800-$120 that he paid me so he owes me AT LEAST $680!!! That should just about cover the stereo system I bought today ;) |
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![]() Ahhh... Memories.. I wonder what ever happened to that domain... Anyway, Good luck getting your cash... but I probably had a better chance at getting that old site to 200K than you do of getting paid. ![]() |
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I won't even complain about June and July... I'm being fair -- I just want payment for MAY 2000!
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Anyone want to take bets on which of the following we see...
1.) A calm, reasonable response explaining Shaw's side of this. or 2.) An angry, irrational reply that tries to save face by attacking TheFLY.
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I have no idea... if they decide to pay me -- that would be like admitting guilt.
I think they will just try to ignore this -- but how many hundreds of webmasters will lose trust in Brad Shaw's programs because of my posts? Honestly I just think it's hilarious... Here's an email that I received recently... |
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"Kim" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] Subject: Re: hey Pete, i want to talk to you Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:56:10 -0700 I recall you saying that you didn't get paid on GFY once, and that Tonda said she'd look into it -- not sure if she did, but I thought I would follow up -- I can find it from your last name -- Talk to you when you get back. Kimmy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: Re: hey Pete, i want to talk to you > Wow sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you... What is this about? > I just got back from Internext but now I'm leaving town for a week to > visit the family so hopefully we can talk when I get back. > > I will have to dig through my records to find my old account # -- my last name > is Brunet. > > Regards, > > -- pete > > > To: [email protected] > > Subject:hey Pete, i want to talk to you > > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 23:28:19 -0700 > > > > > > > > about your old SIC Cash account -- I dont know your last name, so I need > > your acct number > > > > Kimmy > > |
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So is KimmyKim trying to repair the past?
Will she go back through the sutures of sin, and pluck from Brad Shaw's wounds my long lost dinero? The plot thickens! |
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You know how this will end.
TheFLY will be running warez or childporn sites or something.. no wait.. this is for BradShaw not 12clicks. Kimmy will prove FLY is a cheating webmaster, and FLY will be so confused by the end the thread that he'll believe his middle name is '666'. However, everyone knows thats Sykk's middle name.
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Maybe she wanted to repair Brad Shaw's reputation before Internext...???
Look at the date: Subject:hey Pete, i want to talk to you > > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 23:28:19 -0700 |
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Pete:
If you are owed for June & July, why are you willing to settle for only May? Just curious. If I were owed for anything, rightfully it should be paid. Quite possibly I don't know the details, but it came to mind.
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These punks get themselfs a little program, make enough to pay the rent, and all the sudden they can pass judgement on their betters. or did I misunderstand?
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Oh, and you're clickmojo? you know, I noticed that a while ago. small time punk, running a small time scam. did't really worry about an infringment on mojosearch. But a punk that shoots off his mouth is a different matter all together. hehe, lets see what trouble my lawyer can cause for you. ![]() maybe nothing, maybe I'll take clickmojo and explain why I took it. "the mighty bruja opened his mouth" hahahaha. someone remind me of this thread tomorrow.
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hahaha, oh no! not the GBU!
hgahahahahaha
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Ah the GBU is censored here. Well, if anyone wants the link, they can just ICQ me. I'd be glad to pass it along. Its just a message board with a thread about how Standard Internet is a piece-of-shit sponsor.
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dude, I can do everything but choose to use a lawyer to teach you the best of lessons. don't fuck with your betters. ![]()
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12clicks - "Oh that darn Brujah! He's so mean to me. *cries* I don't know what else to do. *sobs* Maybe I can call my lawyer and sue him for something! *clenches fist in air* Oooohhh he's going to get it now!"
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thanks mrthumbs.
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buja, I understand you're scared shitless because you couldn't afford a lawyer's free consultation but I assure you, smacking down guys like you is done for fun, no viens popping out, no anger, just humor. you see, I'm comfortable with who I am here and I'm pretty sure we've got the name registered.
I might be able to get it from ICANN without a lawyer. ![]()
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![]() make yourself a target by being an asshole, live to regret it. hahahahahahahaha
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I thought this would be a good time to mention that KIMMYKIM is a new member of the bradshaw klan, and i recall her mentioning in a thread from lightspeed about the ibill crap she mentioned that she would rather loose her house than jack a webmaster for his money he earned or something like that. now in her defense she has not been with shaw internet for that long, but she is now obligated to deal witht his issue now? or am i wrong by thinking she is 'webmaster support' for shaw internet now?
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![]() ![]() ![]() http://web.archive.org/web/200005200...boneprone.com/ TheFLY was linking to it.... and guess what???!? Boneprone is a woman! LOL
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WTF kind of nonsense is this?
If anyone here wonders why the fuck I am such a bitch and have no pity on cheaters here's a prime example. 1. I like Pete -- the Fly -- 2. I recalled him stating on this board MONTHS before I ever left CCBill and went to work with Brad, that he felt he was owed some money. 3. At the time he was asking, apparently no one decided to pay him. I didn't even know his last name so hey, how would I know how to look up the account records? 4. I thought, why not be nice about it, I know Pete isnt expecting the money at this point, get his account number from him and have a look at it. If you can find enough to support his point, great. If not, at least you had a look at it so he's definitely not owed anything. 5. So I get this email today -- forever and a day after he sent me the one from IA, which I haven't had time to research, nor did it sound like he cared what day I started researching it, since he hadn't been paid, and may or may not be entitled to any money -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter" <[email protected]> To: "Kim" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: Re: hey Pete, i want to talk to you > > Ok so now that I have proof I wasn't cheating -- come on let's see the money... > > I've decided it's my money, so pay up or I'm talking this back to the boards ;) > > Pay me and I'll keep quiet about the whole thing like it never happened... > > -- pete > > So of course I sent him a nice reply, which he's welcome to post on this board if he likes. Of course the moronic way he decided to handle this makes me wonder about his sanity, but hey I figured he just had a bit too much fun over the weekend and is either still enjoying it or wishing he hadn't had so much fun last nite. This is money from 2 years ago, I've never seen a sponsor come back and say hey, let me take a look at what happened, so of course I've never seen one get slapped in the head for trying to be nice for it either. |
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Lets see some good hard trusting pumping love in here...Go on Kimmy give The Fly a facial full of money!
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