Gumballs

If anyone is looking for better rates for Adult pay processing?

A New company just formed and they are giving incredible rates for webmasters that are doing high volume. CCbill can't touch them.

They are also backed by 4 offshore banks and one in the USA. They are not new to the industry at all.

The owners are well known and have a great reputation, so if you want me to put you in touch with them let me know and I will contact you in person.

If your at all interested hit me up on my email [email protected] or yahoo messenger. Thanks Tom

The Ghost

No offense, but why aren't they here offering the service and details?

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Gumballs

No offense taken it takes to set up a new pay processing company, that is what they have ISA for.

The company is processing over 800 million a month and growing fast.

If anyone wants more info I can help I am one of their approved ISA.

MikeB

This is a new company processing 800 million a month already?

Gumballs

No offense taken it takes allot of time to set up a new pay processing company, that is what they have ISA for.

The company is processing over 800 million a month and growing fast.

If anyone wants more info I can help I am one of their approved ISA.

Gumballs

These guys aren't new to the pay process industry. They had many multi-million dollar accounts boarded already. They got feed up with the poor service their customers were getting and started their own PP company.

They also own there own gateways so it allows for greater flexibility in customer pricing.

The Ghost

ISA?


What is the name of the company? For something as important as processing, credentials are needed. Too many people have been burned by processors in the past, and it is a possibility that those same people are involved in this.

No smoke and mirrors when it comes to my affiliates (and my) money

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Gumballs

ISA is an independent sales agent and the owners can give you many other heavy hitters that are boarded with them right now. I don't have the power just yet to disclose the names of other clients, but If any of you are serious interested I will set up conference calls with the owners. http://adultpayprocessing.com/

And I completely understand your comments and being cautious.

This company is the real deal and dealing with big names in the adult biz already. Shit! I wish I could dropped the damn names, but they would drop me as a rep if I did.

Again I will be happy to talk with anyone and get you a conference call to answer any concerns you may have.

Thanks

Tom

[email protected]

There site

http://adultpayprocessing.com/

MikeB

So they are bigger than Paycom and CCBill combined? Amazing.

Bama

Hmmm... Lemme' recount the thread so far so I have the correct score.

New GFY user with no adult site listed in his profile using a free email provider as an email account wants me to rush over to some company that doesn't want you to know who they are.

They're processing 800 million on a domain reg'd earlier this year but they can't afford to pay 2 grand to make their website look like a company that's processing 800 million?

Domain Name: ADULTPAYPROCESSING.COM
Creation Date: 15-feb-2007

That about sum it up correctly so far?

CWeb

No disrespect or knocking intended... but, there are relevant points:

(a) No corp name, postal address or real contact information on the website. What jurisdiction applies for legal docs?

(b) What VISA banking region do they claim to operate in?

(c) Assuming the owners have a great reputation - who are these people?? That should be in their corp filings, so back to - Where is the corp based?

(d) What mechanisms are in place to protect webmaster funds in the event of financial or other problems? This type of biz model should apply to all processors, but especially to new corps.

Processing is no different to banking - there are no secrets, but obviously a need for transparency. That transparency is simple to implement, assuming everything is above board, - but it is non-existent on the website.

Gumballs

The company does low risk processing as well and accounts for a large majority of their portfolio. The owners had a large customer portfolio to start with, there customers weren't getting the best rates and service with the PP company they had them boarded at, so they went directly to the banks.


The company owners started process low and high risk. Low risk site
http://www.buyyourrate.com/ That has the address of the corp and a physical address.

And to the people think that 800 million a month processing is a lot or bigger than ccbill, you must be new to the industry. People that want references that are already board in the adult industry and want to talk to the owners in a conference call please email me.

[email protected]

directfiesta

comedy thread of the month ...




PS: nice touch the pinup on the site ... very professional

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ADULTPAYPROCESSING.COM - Created: 15-feb-2007
BUYYOURRATE.COM - Created: 04-may-2006

and a yahoo email addy

okay then.. where do i sign up?

Gumballs

Like I said they just incorporated for the benefit of their customers that were getting screwed by a couple of the major PP companies, so anyone that wants a rate quote and to speak with them personally, let me know.

As for the website I have no control over what they have, not do I have any say.

Are you looking for a quote?

Gumballs

Honesty are you guys slow or what? They just formed the company recently I told you all that.

Like I said, they formed the company because of all the PP companies in the business that are fucking their customers.

Why don't you at least give them a call and talk with them, instead of bashing the messenger here.

If you happy with you current provider that is wonderful, but why not just give them a call or email them, if you don't want to go through me.

P.S. For the people doing more than a million plus a month ask around because more than likely some of your friends are boarded with this company.

directfiesta

... oxymoron ...

and no, I am not looking for a quote.

My members site is with Paycom, and I am very happy to pay them whatever they are charging me ... I know that Tuesday there is a check in my mail box .... doesn't fail.

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CWeb

Can only speak for me - but I'm not slow, just at a complete hault when it comes to people who can't get their act together.

I just formed 22 companies - that does not entitle me to plaster vague websites up and tout to be a processor of funds - without even providing basic information.

If the corp name/DBA is First Capital Mortgage and/or the location is Michigan - no, I don't think these people are potential prime movers in international ecommerce or have one clue about four offshore banking relationships.

CWeb

Ah.. you got there before me

Gumballs

Sure you did.

Forest

LOL yeah a new processor processing 800m thays new to adult



sorry dude but I have seen so many processors come and go and still owe webmasters 100's of millions of dollars

CWeb

It was a touch of sarcasm - yeah? Got it yet?

And yes... I have more than 22 corp formations in reality, tho not exactly new.

The core issue is that it is expected webmasters to trust an unknown corp with funds when they can't even state their address. No thanks

Forest

http://adultpayprocessing.com/

dude if they want to be taken seriously (which is a stretch in this day and age wioth processors) they need to atleast have a great website

I charge 399.00 for that type of site

Gumballs

Forest they are not just processing adult, they do have the majority on the low risk end.

And yes I have heard all the horror stories about webmasters getting burned, so I completely understand the reluctance.

Give them a few months and just ask around a bit. Like I said they have some big names in the industry already that many of you know. And I am not asking any of you to take my word, but just give them a call and see who's who.

Is that fair enough?

Gumballs

They are not unknowns in this industry. Anyone that wants to confirm who they are and who they have boarded with them only need contact them.

What does a phone call or email cost?

ztik

Bullshit. Doubt you will see your money at all..

This guy comes in here lying and to get business. Im sure he will lie about where your payment is too.

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CWeb

OK.. Basically they are new and transacting 800/month? But hide their corp facts and it relies of a "conference call" to establish what "top notch guys" are behind it?? Gimme a break - I've got a nice bridge for sale

ztik

Why not post who they are then?

Maybe its dingo

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Forest

Just so you know processing adult and processing mainstream are 2 different animals. Just ask any of the billing companies that have come and gone. Why do you think there is such a small number of high risk us processors.

I guess my point was its going to be very hard to get anyone without an adult billing reputation to get a foot hold in the industry. You may get some newbies who dont know the history of adult billing but to get the hardcore program and site owners it would be near impossible

Gumballs

Thanks for your comments. I am newer to the industry and they aren't. And yes I understand there is a huge difference, in fact not many banks are willing to board adult and gambling sites period. The owners worked really hard to work out deals to board high risk account and develop relationships with well known banks, so at least give them an ear.

I wish I could just do some fricken name dropping here so you guys could do some asking around, but I don't have the authority to do that. It's stated not to disclose current customers unless I get direct permission and I don't have their permission. It's killing me here, because I know that many of you know these people, because they post on this forum. SHIT!

The only advice I can give at this point is call them directly at and I will let them know that the site isn't up to par, but I think they already know that.

Again Forest and others I appreciate your constructive criticism and comments. Please keep them coming.

CWeb

Seriously... don't care if it's a phone call with God or who the hell they are, or whether they are known or not. Celeb status never was the basis of someone handling my money. Being in this industry never was a qualification to act as banker of webmaster funds.

Are any of them directors of banks, lawyers or accountants with a track record and who can be disbarred and dumped in a jail cell?? Don't think so in this case

What difference does a phone call make?? It means nothing and has no cred or legal status - just the usual adult biz "we run a top notch company". Total waste of time.

Forest

are they processing gambling?

Forest

dude if they want a kick ass bill site send them my contact info

ill be more then happy to give them a quote

tranza

I wouldn't touch it....

Sorry....

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CWeb

There is nothing to name drop - does your local bank manager have a problem with giving his name?? Does anyone need "authority" to mention his name?? Would it be the basis of banking even if his name was stated???

Someone needs lessons in transparency...

CWeb

That would usually be OK if the whole operation was outside US jurisdiction (including all staff) - but this is prob not the case - at last check Michigan was in the US

Forest

No it wouldnt be OK if it was outside USA

look at neteller

They were 100% offshore and look what happend to them

CWeb

Please... don't go there *lol*

There are plenty legal and legitimate ways to handle financial transactions without putting webmaster funds at risk thru gaming or epassporte scenarios.

rowan

When you plug some unique looking sentences from an unknown website into Google it's amazing what you come up with...

http://adultpayprocessing.com/content/view/10/31/
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=&#...e=off&filter=0

HairToStay

Credit Card Processing - Accept all major credit cards, including Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, Diner's Club, and JCB via AdultPayProcessing.com software.

Can you tell me how they can process for adult and offer American Express? Unless you are a very old, established business and have been accepting American Express, American Express does not process for adult.

Gumballs

I will do that, but maybe you want to contact them yourself as well.

Gumballs

OK there trigger.

We are talking about basic client confidentiality. The owners can mention the names but I can't at this point, so relax, you'll live.

Gumballs

HairToStay,

I just spoke with them the site is being complete overhauled as we speak and you are correct they do not offer Amex.

Thanks for pointing, again I am new to the adult industry.

DamageX

Very interesting thread.

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Even if this even sounded vaguely legit, which it doesn't......webmasters aren't likely to give up the comfort of the already established processors that are trusted by the industry and surfers, in addition to the clockwork mailing out of checks for a few %.

The last few guys that spoke to me about their billing companies had a lower rate but their program couldn't offer any of the password facilities or some other function....cheaper rate didn't really mean cheaper rate.

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CWeb

It was not about client confidentiality - it was about why are the directors unable to state their corp name or their own names

OK.. Looked at a scenario like this a few years back - the last thing which is needed are secrets. And.. the principals/directors really need to be bankers or those with a proven financial track record - that bit was fine and achievable, but I could not be bothered seriously working for a living. There is little hope of some "top notch guys" from the adult biz who want to play the processing game having a hope in hell - things have matured since the wild west days

GigoloMason

+10 troll points.

I don't know why people are even bothering to rebut something this stupid.

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acratophorum

Tell us about yourself, and your background...How did you meet the owners of adultpayprocessin? How long have you known them for? What kind of billing solution is it? Direct merchant accounts of 3rd party processing?