Never ever paying upfront for design work again - GoFuckYourself.com

Phoenix · 05-25-2007, 10:50 AM

or any work for that matter

you think you can trust people...but guess what

holy fuckin annoying

candyflip · 05-25-2007, 10:56 AM

Haven't we been here before?

CIVMatt · 05-25-2007, 11:00 AM

This will shortly be follow by a designer thread complaining his latest client changed his mind and bailed out now that the design is done....

webgurl · 05-25-2007, 11:02 AM

If you don't know who you are dealing with and him/her
doesn't have a reputation don't bother paying upfront or
even giving a deposit .

Deej · 05-25-2007, 11:03 AM

ive never asked for upfront yet. never been stiffed either. never had an unhappy client. ... i guess i shouldnt say this though... 1st time for everything.

Forest · 05-25-2007, 11:04 AM

If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit

someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone

candyflip · 05-25-2007, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

ive never asked for upfront yet. never been stiffed either. never had an unhappy client. ... i guess i shouldnt say this though... 1st time for everything.

Don't worry...it'll happen at some point.

Zuzana Designs · 05-25-2007, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit

someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone

Same here. I use to say I would not take any upfront, but have been burned to many times..

WiredGuy · 05-25-2007, 11:28 AM

God bless Escrow

WG

Phoenix · 05-25-2007, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

Haven't we been here before?

we are still in the same place

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 05-25-2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

This will shortly be follow by a designer thread complaining his latest client changed his mind and bailed out now that the design is done....

I don't know a designer who ISN'T chasing somebody around asking "where the fuck's my money bitch?" For real, I won't even start a job anymore unless you give me a couple damn good references, or put half up front.

Sosa · 05-25-2007, 11:31 AM

there is only a few designers I trust

MetaMan · 05-25-2007, 11:32 AM

That is why people who have designers who can actually do quality original work will stick with them like glue. They are hard to find most def.

geedub · 05-25-2007, 11:33 AM

i have also learned this the hard way. xlabor still owes me a gallery

kristin · 05-25-2007, 11:38 AM

Are we back to this again?

Deej · 05-25-2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

Don't worry...it'll happen at some point.

Im sure, i dont doubt it, been ripped off for other things.

I also do somewhat of a search on someone if I havent heard of them before I do work thats not payed for. I have turned some down.

but I dont doubt it happeneing some day...

Goodings Media · 05-25-2007, 11:42 AM

Well Im the sales Rep for www.student-design.co.uk a local UK design company, and we wont even START a design project until the client has signed the contract.

Why?

So we're guarunteed payment
So the client is guarunteed the design

It's pretty simple, and it's the extra service you get by getting work through a design company and not just a single freelance designer

If anyone needs any work doing, hit me up [email protected]

Yo Adrian · 05-25-2007, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

That is why people who have designers who can actually do quality original work will stick with them like glue. They are hard to find most def.

Yes we do have those kind of people

Huggles · 05-25-2007, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

or any work for that matter

you think you can trust people...but guess what

holy fuckin annoying

Hit me up I have one of the best designers in adult working for me and he always gets the job done

Jace · 05-25-2007, 12:03 PM

dude, I told you I would be working on and off today!!!!

hehe, j/k

Ragging Rhino · 05-25-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit

someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone

Amen to that.
It's one thing if we know them.
I have been stiffed too many times over the years, doing design work and some of these lazy people run off with my work.

We need at least something, to show us in good faith.

Barefootsies · 05-25-2007, 01:35 PM

Amen brotha

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=736479

05-25-2007, 02:04 PM

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NTM · 05-25-2007, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

or any work for that matter

you think you can trust people...but guess what

quoted for truth!

baddog · 05-25-2007, 02:34 PM

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JD · 05-25-2007, 02:37 PM

I never ask for 100% upfront. 50% upfront is the most I'd ask for if you're "unknown"

tehHinjew · 05-25-2007, 03:01 PM

see sig, they will change shit for you no questions asked and if your not happy they will go out of their way to satisfy you

sextoyking · 05-25-2007, 03:02 PM

We don't ask for a deposit upfront and have had very few issues with payments over the yrs at www.webinc.com

1. We send a quote
2. You get sched. in and access to our Client Section.
3. Works start on or before your sched. date
4. You approve / make changes to all design work
5. Design is done, you make final approval
6. You pay the bill..

We make it pretty easy at webinc.com

Thanks

Todd

Broda · 05-25-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

there is only a few designers I trust

hmm.. and designers most likely say the same about clients ;)

Barefootsies · 05-25-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broda

hmm.. and designers most likely say the same about clients ;)

tony286 · 05-25-2007, 03:58 PM

unless you've done lots of business with someone,paying upfront to me is a recipe for pain.

Screaming · 05-25-2007, 04:00 PM

yep, coding is the same shit

mailman · 05-25-2007, 04:01 PM

A good desinger is hard to find but there are some good ones out there

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DirtyDanza · 05-25-2007, 04:09 PM

a down payment on design work? NO WAY... then your both out more time when no one likes whats designed and then they don't want to give a refund... if your a good designer you know you are... and if your good you will bill someone for the work later on....

k0nr4d · 05-25-2007, 04:16 PM

I always do 50% up front with new clients, especially on larger jobs. If someone isn't ok with that, they can find themselves another programmer.

You have to realize we need to protect ourselves too. If i quote someone $1500 on a coding job, I view the deposit as their commitment that I am the one doing the job. Otherwise what if I finish half the project, and they suddenly decide that they want to go with another guy who quotes less?

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Forest Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hollywood Fl. Posts: 8,981	If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone

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Goodings Media Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,987	Well Im the sales Rep for www.student-design.co.uk a local UK design company, and we wont even START a design project until the client has signed the contract. Why? So we're guarunteed payment So the client is guarunteed the design It's pretty simple, and it's the extra service you get by getting work through a design company and not just a single freelance designer If anyone needs any work doing, hit me up [email protected] __________________ ICQ: 446-568-913 Email: liam\|\|goodingsmedia.com msn: [email protected]

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	We don't ask for a deposit upfront and have had very few issues with payments over the yrs at www.webinc.com 1. We send a quote 2. You get sched. in and access to our Client Section. 3. Works start on or before your sched. date 4. You approve / make changes to all design work 5. Design is done, you make final approval 6. You pay the bill.. We make it pretty easy at webinc.com Thanks Todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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k0nr4d Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 9,228	I always do 50% up front with new clients, especially on larger jobs. If someone isn't ok with that, they can find themselves another programmer. You have to realize we need to protect ourselves too. If i quote someone $1500 on a coding job, I view the deposit as their commitment that I am the one doing the job. Otherwise what if I finish half the project, and they suddenly decide that they want to go with another guy who quotes less? __________________ Mechanical Bunny Media Mechbunny Tube Script \| Mechbunny Webcam Aggregator Script \| Custom Web Development