Never ever paying upfront for design work again
 

or any work for that matter

you think you can trust people...but guess what


holy fuckin annoying

Haven't we been here before?

This will shortly be follow by a designer thread complaining his latest client changed his mind and bailed out now that the design is done....

If you don't know who you are dealing with and him/her
doesn't have a reputation don't bother paying upfront or
even giving a deposit .

ive never asked for upfront yet. never been stiffed either. never had an unhappy client. ... i guess i shouldnt say this though... 1st time for everything.

If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit

someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone

Don't worry...it'll happen at some point. :thumbsup

Same here. I use to say I would not take any upfront, but have been burned to many times..

God bless Escrow :)
WG

we are still in the same place:(

I don't know a designer who ISN'T chasing somebody around asking "where the fuck's my money bitch?" For real, I won't even start a job anymore unless you give me a couple damn good references, or put half up front.

there is only a few designers I trust

That is why people who have designers who can actually do quality original work will stick with them like glue. They are hard to find most def.

i have also learned this the hard way. xlabor still owes me a gallery

Are we back to this again?

Im sure, i dont doubt it, been ripped off for other things.

I also do somewhat of a search on someone if I havent heard of them before I do work thats not payed for. I have turned some down.

but I dont doubt it happeneing some day...

Well Im the sales Rep for www.student-design.co.uk a local UK design company, and we wont even START a design project until the client has signed the contract.

Why?

So we're guarunteed payment
So the client is guarunteed the design

It's pretty simple, and it's the extra service you get by getting work through a design company and not just a single freelance designer :)

If anyone needs any work doing, hit me up [email protected]

:winkwink:

Yes we do have those kind of people :thumbsup

Hit me up I have one of the best designers in adult working for me and he always gets the job done

dude, I told you I would be working on and off today!!!!

hehe, j/k

Amen to that.
It's one thing if we know them.
I have been stiffed too many times over the years, doing design work and some of these lazy people run off with my work.

We need at least something, to show us in good faith.

Amen brotha

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=736479

:mad: :mad: :mad:

next time you need design work, contact me and i will take care of you. We have many clients that would back us up that we are great to work with. Work is completed on time, binding contracts and KICKASS DESIGNS THAT CONVERT

www.AdultDesign.com
icq 721536 for rates

quoted for truth!

Another service offered by www.PimpsPromo.com is to act as an escrow to avoid these issues

I never ask for 100% upfront. 50% upfront is the most I'd ask for if you're "unknown"

see sig, they will change shit for you no questions asked and if your not happy they will go out of their way to satisfy you

We don't ask for a deposit upfront and have had very few issues with payments over the yrs at www.webinc.com

1. We send a quote
2. You get sched. in and access to our Client Section.
3. Works start on or before your sched. date
4. You approve / make changes to all design work
5. Design is done, you make final approval
6. You pay the bill..

We make it pretty easy at webinc.com

Thanks

Todd

hmm.. and designers most likely say the same about clients ;)

:disgust

unless you've done lots of business with someone,paying upfront to me is a recipe for pain.

yep, coding is the same shit

A good desinger is hard to find but there are some good ones out there :)

*cough* www.templateempire.com *cough*

a down payment on design work? NO WAY... then your both out more time when no one likes whats designed and then they don't want to give a refund... if your a good designer you know you are... and if your good you will bill someone for the work later on....

I always do 50% up front with new clients, especially on larger jobs. If someone isn't ok with that, they can find themselves another programmer.

You have to realize we need to protect ourselves too. If i quote someone $1500 on a coding job, I view the deposit as their commitment that I am the one doing the job. Otherwise what if I finish half the project, and they suddenly decide that they want to go with another guy who quotes less?