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|  05-23-2007, 04:22 PM | #1 | 
| I scan my content from Penthouse Join Date: Apr 2007 
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				LustyBucks & CAMGUEST.com SCAMMERS
			 Ok so i signed up with these guys 2 days ago because of the $100.00 payout promo which i saw while reading through the forum..  So I said " Hey why not give these guys a shot and see how it would convert" I switched my traffic from streamate (Who i have been with for over a month and has always paid me and never had any issues with my traffic) to CamGuest dot com Program lustybucksdot com[ - I seen the traffic go up and converting at about 1:700 I left the traffic overnight which is where most of the traffic comes from till about 11:00am the Next day. I logged into my Lustybucks accounts and I could not log in. I then requested my password and used what it sent me still without any luck. I then email support and here is what i get emailed back to me: To whom it may concern, The sales made by jaystyles have large number of fraud points. To avoid any further problems we decided to refund ALL these sales. Account 'Jaystyles' has been suspended due to the possible fraud. JayStyles@aol dot com wrote: > This form was submited from: >nats.lustybucks dot com/support2 > > By IP: 72.199.230.227 > > Received On: Tuesday 22nd of May 2007 01:47:03 PM > > Subject: Login not working > > Name: Jay Styles > > Email: Jaystyles@aol dot com > > Message: > > Why has my login changed? I have been trying to login with no luck. Please advise. *account name changed with forum name. I just think this is bs all of a sudden my traffic is bad and mostly fraud. I think they couldn't handle the traffic. On 100 payout per signup Be Careful Dealing with these Guys 
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|  05-23-2007, 04:25 PM | #2 | 
| Ah My Balls Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 
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				 | uh oh!  I never had a prob with them 
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|  05-23-2007, 05:10 PM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac 
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				 | There is only one J Styles | 
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|  05-23-2007, 05:18 PM | #4 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden 
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				 | Seen this before with them, my guess is they cant handle several sales per day from 1 webmaster at $150 a sale 
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|  05-23-2007, 05:41 PM | #5 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2005 
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				 | if its too good.... | 
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|  05-23-2007, 06:14 PM | #6 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest, US 
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				 | Lusty Bucks fucked me out of $250 when they first opened and called it fraud. Search on Lusty Bucks threads and you'll see it. These pricks are among some of the biggest affiliate scammers around.         | 
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|  05-23-2007, 08:08 PM | #7 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego 
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|  05-23-2007, 08:15 PM | #8 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- 
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				 | There is only one J motherfucking $tyle$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 
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|  05-23-2007, 08:46 PM | #9 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego 
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|  05-23-2007, 09:29 PM | #10 | 
| Troll Patrol Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal 
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				 | I have heard similar complaints from other webmasters.  Had a feeling they were going to have to do something fishy to be able to pay out their promo payouts. | 
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|  05-23-2007, 10:17 PM | #11 | 
| MadZuma Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California 
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				 | have you tried contacting them on icq? 
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|  05-23-2007, 11:45 PM | #12 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 
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				 | We have a client who sent them 100 signups and then got deleted for fraud. Beware of these guys | 
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|  05-24-2007, 12:08 AM | #13 | 
| Registered User Join Date: May 2007 
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				 | I don't understand why i had to change my Nick. I have had Jaystyles since i was a Little Kid Being my Hobby has been Magic. I have owned the domain jaystyles.com since 2002. Ur Nick is orgnl on GFY but it I am the ORGNL JAYSTYLES ...  I get Banned for having that Nick thats shitty. | 
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|  05-24-2007, 12:19 AM | #14 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia 
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				 | What about "Jay Stile"?   | 
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|  05-24-2007, 12:29 AM | #15 | 
| Registered User Join Date: May 2007 
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				 | lol... This is crazy. | 
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|  05-28-2007, 09:26 PM | #16 | |
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 Well, you've started this thread on 05-24-2007. And we've sent you the reply on 05-23-2007 with the questions you never answered. Here goes the copy of this letter ( to let you recollect what its all about ): ------------------------------------------------------- Message: I'd like to see your comments regarding the following: 1. ALL your sales are made by users who came from nowhere [ bookmarks ;) ]. 2. ALL the members who submitted the form did it in very similiar way. Why? 3. ALL the members have bought the minimal ticket and NEVER rebilled. Almost impossible thing on live cams. 4. NATS granted your members TOO MUCH fraud points. 5. From 15602 uniques you've sent us only 548 are with referers. P.S. Strange list of coincidences for 8 sales you've generated one day   And the list is not complete   ------------------------------------------------------- We prefer not to deal with such traffic. That's why your account was closed in less than 24 hours. 
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|  05-28-2007, 09:40 PM | #17 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 20 00'24.00" N, 75 09'00.00 W 
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|  05-28-2007, 10:07 PM | #18 | 
| Troll Patrol Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal 
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				 | Yep, I just talked to two more people who they did this too.  Seems they want to throw out the big payouts to attract affiliates, but then just cancel them without a payout when their sales don't rebill and call it fraud. | 
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|  05-29-2007, 11:05 AM | #19 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
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 I know some traffic doesn't work with some programs and I've never had a problem if a program wants to switch to revshare or just not to deal with the traffic. But I know they've canceled accounts of a lot of the top cam affiliates on the web. Just seems like something isn't right with that. | |
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|  05-29-2007, 11:08 AM | #20 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 
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				 | As I always said, don't trust a man who bumps his thread 4 pages long and doesn't feel bad about it 
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|  05-29-2007, 11:24 AM | #21 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 
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				 | theres a perp in tha house! 
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|  06-01-2007, 10:58 AM | #22 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
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				 | Has anyone been paid by these guys yet? | 
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|  06-01-2007, 12:38 PM | #23 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 
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				 | [QUOTE=LustyBucks;12504589] I'd like to see your comments regarding the following: 1. ALL your sales are made by users who came from nowhere [ bookmarks ;) ]. 2. ALL the members who submitted the form did it in very similiar way. Why? 3. ALL the members have bought the minimal ticket and NEVER rebilled. Almost impossible thing on live cams. 4. NATS granted your members TOO MUCH fraud points. 5. From 15602 uniques you've sent us only 548 are with referers. [QUOTE] 1. people really do bookmark sites. 2. they all filled out the same form and you wonder why its similar. 3. Almost every first time cam buyer buys the minimum to check it out. Your site could suck and they dont want to spend more. 4. I dont know about this. 5. nats / most programs never shows even close to the amount of referers. From the looks of this thread Lusty bucks isnt looking to good. | 
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|  06-01-2007, 01:12 PM | #24 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 
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				 | i sent 2,400 hits and no sales   | 
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|  06-01-2007, 02:51 PM | #25 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 
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				 | Im surprised these guys have lasted this long | 
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|  06-02-2007, 09:41 AM | #26 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
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|  06-04-2007, 07:55 PM | #27 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC 
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				 | n e 1 alive? | 
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|  06-04-2007, 08:59 PM | #28 | |
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest, US 
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|  06-04-2007, 09:07 PM | #29 | 
| Troll Patrol Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal 
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				 | Looks like these guys are bad news, it appears as if they are trying to pile up the traffic/sales numbers as fast as possible and then skip town without paying anyone. | 
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|  06-05-2007, 05:38 AM | #30 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 
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				 | Hmmm... The last epassporte payment from them arrived 2 days ago. So, they are ok for me.  P.S. Although they have another BIG problem - only 30-40 models are live in general on their cam site. This fact affects the ratio for sure 
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|  06-06-2007, 02:25 PM | #31 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
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				 | The site also doesn't work in Firefox.  It's probably why they have so many "fraudulent" transactions.  They have a real nice design and it converts well.  But once someone signs up and realizes they don't have a lot of cams or they can't even run the cams in their browser, they don't spend any money.  Lusty Bucks determines the signup is fraudulent because they didn't send any money.  The signup wasn't though, and is simple not spending money because the site is not as good as the other cam sites. | 
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|  06-06-2007, 04:14 PM | #32 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
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				 | I sent 21 signups in the first couple days of May ($3,150 with their promo).  They canceled my account and told me there were a high number of fraud signups.  My traffic is SE cam traffic and I've sent thousands of sales to other cam sponsors without a problem this year.  Nonetheless, they told me they'd pay me for the "legit" ones. It's June 6th and still no payment. I'll see if we get something in the next week. | 
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|  06-06-2007, 04:22 PM | #33 | |
| Need Designs? 312352846 Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere 
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|  06-06-2007, 04:27 PM | #34 | 
| Ah My Balls Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 
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				 | so who would you all use for cam? 
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 Bad luck ? Does it mean any fraudulent activity by himself ? You rely on these fraud points only ? Yep, that's a bit strange, but as said before, if he redirects traffic or sends it via a script, it can easily happen. | |||
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|  06-06-2007, 05:52 PM | #36 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
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				 | http://www.pussycash.com http://www.webcams.com http://www.clickcash.com http://www.adultwebmasterempire.com http://www.mtree.com They have all paid on time every time without a problem. | 
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|  06-07-2007, 02:24 PM | #37 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL 
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				 | Still no pay from them.... | 
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|  06-07-2007, 02:33 PM | #38 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan 
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				 | Hahaha what a Lame name to choose. Fucking wave rider.  You'll never come close to be Styling like the real J$tyle$. 
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|  06-07-2007, 02:44 PM | #39 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: "Is this where you want to be when Jesus comes back? Pickin' on lil' Joe Dirt?" 
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 jaystyles J$tyle$ What is the GFY world coming to? So that douchebag You Forgot Poland can have 50 nicks and be banned like 35 times but you can't have a nick that is close to being similar to this guys...kinda weak in my opinion. 
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|  06-07-2007, 02:51 PM | #40 | |
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan 
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|  06-07-2007, 03:02 PM | #41 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: "Is this where you want to be when Jesus comes back? Pickin' on lil' Joe Dirt?" 
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				 | I'm sure he's cool and BRO material...you just need to give that BRO a chance.  Nobody wins with BRO on BRO crime! 
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|  06-07-2007, 03:48 PM | #42 | |
| Ah My Balls Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 
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|  06-07-2007, 03:54 PM | #43 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: So fucking gone 
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				 | NATS dont make up anything. You are a scammer and got busted 
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|  06-07-2007, 03:54 PM | #44 | |
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 http://www.webcams.com http://www.clickcash.com http://www.adultwebmasterempire.com http://www.mtree.com There ya go, thanks! | |
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|  06-07-2007, 04:05 PM | #45 | 
| Need Designs? 312352846 Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere 
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				 | bump for this thread 
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|  06-07-2007, 07:11 PM | #46 | |
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|  06-07-2007, 10:07 PM | #47 | 
| Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security 
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|  06-07-2007, 11:40 PM | #48 | 
| making it rain Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle 
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				 | Glad I saw this thread, I was almost tempted by their $150 payouts.  Steering clear, especially after reading LustyBucks' bullshit reply. P.S. I don't get why "jaystyles" was banned for his nick, that's utter bullshit. | 
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|  06-07-2007, 11:41 PM | #49 | 
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|  06-08-2007, 03:37 AM | #50 | |
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