Paypal fucked me, somebody have a phone # ? - GoFuckYourself.com

boldy · 08-23-2002, 06:43 AM

I cannot find a phonenumber of paypal anywhere on their site. There used to be one somewhere, does anyone have the phonenumber of paypal ?

Thnx

GFED · 08-23-2002, 06:44 AM

http://paypalwarning.com/

boldy · 08-23-2002, 06:46 AM

Thnx GFED ! How are you btw ?

Viper-VC · 08-23-2002, 06:48 AM

Customer Service Center

PayPal Customer Service Agents are available to help you 7 days a week, from 6 am to midnight CST.

Call us toll-free at: 1.888.221.1161

GFED · 08-23-2002, 06:49 AM

Great, thanks! Good luck with PayPal bro.

jimmyf · 08-23-2002, 06:55 AM

I wonder why do they make it so hard to find the phone number on there site?

NoCarrier · 08-23-2002, 07:17 AM

I wouldn't use Paypal even if it was the last alternative on earth. This shit is not FDIC insured, if they go bankrupt or decide to leave with your money, you are fucked!

ARS had problems with them for their webmasters paypal payments last month..

And reading those horror stories :

http://paypalwarning.com/WallOfShame/

Even if 1% of the messages are true, it's still a good reason to stay away from them and never do business. Unless you've been using them for the past 2 years and never had problems (Like 100% of people who got fucked for 2$ or 10000000$. They thought the same thing)

hyper · 08-23-2002, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
I wonder why do they make it so hard to find the phone number on there site?

because they dont want to deal with alot of disgruntled people..

greentea · 08-23-2002, 07:26 AM

Ebay bought and owns paypal if im not mistaken

12clicks · 08-23-2002, 07:35 AM

I need to cut and paste this thread to the people who, EVERY DAY, complain about us not using paypal.

GFED · 08-23-2002, 07:38 AM

They both suck...

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...aypal+sucks%22

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...2ebay+sucks%22

.:Frog:. · 08-23-2002, 07:53 AM

Paypal has fucked alot of people - just look at all the warnings about it.
If your so anal you can't wait for a check to arrive, then setup payments to be made by wire.

Use paypal at your own risk.

B40 · 08-23-2002, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Ebay bought and owns paypal if im not mistaken

Yes you are not mistaken.

Gemini · 08-23-2002, 07:56 AM

- Grasp leg firmly at ankle

- Try and stretch muscles in jaws as widely as possible

- Steady and even pressure pulling outwards

- If foot doesn't come out with a resounding POPPING sound...

- Lube around edges of foot with KY and retry

If you cannot remove foot from mouth, call Paramedics immediately for emergency service!

It pays to read before making comments. FDIC was in place with PayPal a couple of years ago, at least, due to the nature of how paypal even handles the funds you have with them.

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...n/fdic-outside

Lane · 08-23-2002, 07:57 AM

paypal makes so many peoples lives easier, you can make money transfers at home.. i dont usually keep more than $500-1000 in my account... if they go bankrupt and i lose my money in there, so be it ! they saved me a lot of time.. its worth it..

well, if you guys use it like a savings account, then i dont have anything to say..

.:Frog:. · 08-23-2002, 08:00 AM

http://www.ygoodman.com/paypal.html

boldy · 08-23-2002, 08:09 AM

This all happened a month ago...

Well here's my complete story, i have a paypal account for a while now. I only used it to transfer small amounts of money like $30-$200. I never completed my subscription to paypal by entering this 4 digit numbers. Thats why i was limited to transfer $1000 at a time. Fine with me, i thought i was more safe like that.

Now i had to transfer $1000 to the best designer i know

. Everything went fine, i was on icq he received the $$$ and transferred it to his bankaccount.

Anyway a few days later i received an email that this transaction looked like a fraud. And they reversed the money transfer. The guy i transferred the money to is now $960 short on his account. And as the status on my account states the money was transferred back to my CC ..... NOT! I called mastercard a few hours ago and still nothing.

YES I ONLY WANTED TO XFER $1000,-, THATS MY LIMIT!!! WHY IS THERE A FUCKING LIMITATION ON MY ACCOUNT THEN ?

FUCKING PAYPAL SUCKS ASS. they're fucking lucky i dont live in the us .

I never ever gonna use paypal anymore, and i recommend everyone else to do the same

cherrylula · 08-23-2002, 09:15 AM

READ the rules and learn how to fucking use paypal, and you will not have any problems.

I have had nothing but impeccable customer service from them whenever there is a problem which last time had to do with an empty ATM machine, and was not PayPal's fault.

If your account has limitations its because you either did not put the right stuff on file with them or you have not upgraded enough to be moving thousands of dollars through their system.

Paypal is one of the coolest things IMO when it comes to getting paid, but if you are a moron you will have problems.

pr0 · 08-23-2002, 09:16 AM

Damn thats rough bro, i just used my paypal account for the first time last night to send choker some $ for traffic. I will never send more than 100$ or receive more than 100$ now that i've seen all these complaints.

mrthumbs · 08-23-2002, 09:23 AM

Paypal reversed a payment (after 2 month or so) without reason, put my account on hold (no response to my fax) and my $1000
is still stuck somewhere in /dev/null.

Same happened to a Dutch friend.

Paypal is a fucking nightmare if you're european.

Im sure they offer a great service for US/CA clients
but that just doesnt help.

Gemini · 08-23-2002, 09:30 AM

We've used it almost from its inception and moved alot more than 1k at a time many times. Never had a problem in all these years. (Although until the FDIC went in to effect, we kept our bulk in the regular bank and drew from that)

Odds are most of the problems occur when people do not follow the rules or don't allow them a chk acct no. etc. They ARE a bank and if you don't trust THEM better get your $$ out and under your mattress.

When they legitimately lock an account for checking an odd movement of cash, they are protecting YOU. The brick and mortar bank down the street will do the same thing if all of a sudden some odd cash movement happens. Say you usually only pay utilities etc... then all of a sudden a check for 10 or 20k comes in... Guess what? Clang. Also they have your signature on file and can compare it to the check, so there are many more checks and balances in the brick bank than you ever know about. I used to move very large sums to other countries to purchase materials and they would call me to verify the check was real. Even having my and my ex's signatures on file. lol

Its just easier to deal with a brick and mortar since you can walk in and they see a person versus email or phone calls. If you don't want to give paypal the information they really need to not worry about the cash movements, then don't use them. Pay those high costs on wires. We will continue using paypal until such time that ebay messes them up, if that doesn't happen, they are the best way to make payments online cheaply.

mrthumbs · 08-23-2002, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
They ARE a bank and if you don't trust THEM better get your $$ out and under your mattress.

Since when..?!

boldy · 08-23-2002, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
... thousands of dollars through their system.

Paypal is one of the coolest things IMO when it comes to getting paid, but if you are a moron you will have problems.

First of all it was 1k, secondo their affecting my business. So everybody having problems with paypal is a moron ... I think you really should shut the FUCK up

slackor · 08-23-2002, 10:40 AM

PayPal is not a bank, I had my account frozen and it took about 10 phone-calls, e-mails and faxes to fix it. A month later they decided to unfreeze it. Turned out logging in from another country is triggers the fraud system.

Never keep any more than you can't afford to lose in your PayPal account.

mrthumbs · 08-23-2002, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boldy

First of all it was 1k, secondo their affecting my business. So everybody having problems with paypal is a moron ... I think you really should shut the FUCK up

boldy · 08-23-2002, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs

yep, me pissed ... nothing much

justsexxx · 08-23-2002, 03:03 PM

Hi,

They placed my account on hold as well(with 200 bucks in it)

I mailed and filled in the form 298047293429 times, with no luck.

After ebay bought paypal, I thought well I try it one more time.

I filled in the form in the memberarea. CHanged my pass, and secret question etc.(like they ask you to do after filling in the form)

And guess what? within 10 days my aaccount was open again!

Andre

posh rat in hell · 08-24-2002, 06:00 AM

I was cheated by a merchant who I paid via paypal, and never shipped the goods (a performance modification for my car). Paypal would not refund me any of my money until I threatened a chargeback, and then only 30%. I did a chargeback and got back 100%. Paypal never took away their 30. All in all, I still use paypal, but only when I'm positive the deal is safe, and I always fund my account with a CC that I know will chargeback on my whim.

Rex · 08-24-2002, 06:51 AM

I just won a dispute somebody filed against me 30 days ago. They had like 160 bucks tied up for 30 days which kind of blew. If you call and bug themn then I think it helps your case. I called about every other day and eventually won. The lady was a lying hahahaha too.

boldy · 08-24-2002, 01:22 PM

I'll start calling, faxing and emailing 1st thing monday morning

thechink · 08-24-2002, 01:51 PM

I had a guy rip me off for $500. which I had paid him thru paypal. They told me tough shit. The person was a verified business member. I had to take care of it myself.

FUCK PAYPAL

DarkestWeb · 08-24-2002, 02:31 PM

For all of you that say PayPal is great, you will think that until they do it to you, completely RANDOM and for no reason at all. I used to think they were great and these stories were from individuals who didn't follow the rules, until they did it to me. Locked my account one day just for the hell of it apparently. Took me 4.5 months to get it open again so I could get my money out, fuck them.

MoTives

miss^behaving · 08-24-2002, 02:43 PM

I haven't had a problem with paypal and I hope I never do.

foe · 08-24-2002, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Ebay bought and owns paypal if im not mistaken

Just did

Jayson · 08-24-2002, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
We've used it almost from its inception and moved alot more than 1k at a time many times. Never had a problem in all these years. (Although until the FDIC went in to effect, we kept our bulk in the regular bank and drew from that)

PayPal are not FDIC insured - they use a bank that is to hold the funds - which means that up to $100,000 per person is insured if the bank fails.

If PayPal fails there would likely be a shitfight with creditors over who gets the money in peoples "accounts". Whilst you have money in your PayPal account you are a creditor of PayPal's, so in an insolvancy technically you line up with all the other creditors. Now they think their terms and conditions protect your money a bit and make you a sort of "priority creditor" but you can be your life that there would be a shitfight in the courts to see who eventually got that money - and you wouldnt see it for a long time.

Now having said that - I use PayPal and move a shitload of cash through it. Havent yet had a problem with it but you personally dont have to do anything wrong to have your account frozen - just receive a payment from someone dodgy and your account will be frozen too. This is all because PayPal initially lost a shitload to fraud (in one case over $7mil to one guy in one day).

And PayPal wont protect you from sending money to people who are dodgy, just the same as if you sent them a cheque and they never send the goods. Use your credit card and you can atleast charge it back - but you will very likely lose your PayPal account if you do.

ronin · 08-24-2002, 04:08 PM

i don't have a account w/them but thought w/the ebay deal that
they planned to ended gambeling & adult..
true or what??
what are the other pros & cons of useing them??

Killerelf · 08-24-2002, 04:20 PM

Paypall has their office in Omaha NE, Right next door! Anyone wnt me to go collect LOL

NETbilling · 08-24-2002, 09:18 PM

boldy,

I have a phone # for you to call.

888-357-8166 or 661-252-2456

With these #s you will be able to get setup with a great billing company using support people that actually care about you anbd your business.

:-)

Mitch

greentea · 08-24-2002, 09:42 PM

Mitch

the vulture with 9 lives

bhutocracy · 08-24-2002, 10:30 PM

the phone number takes about 10 seconds to find on the site. find it. use it. love it.

I would never mail or fax about sums of money.
Humanise what is owed people.
I have always found their customer support to be first class. That said I still don't keep over 1k in my account, and their exchange rate bites dog balls.

tree · 08-24-2002, 10:36 PM

fuck Gay-Pal

gotys · 08-24-2002, 10:46 PM

I can't say anything bad about paypal. PayPal completely ROCKS, I even have my own banker over there, whom I can call on cell-phone at midnight if I am having problems.

It's a really cool place. I had problems before, but once you learn their basic rules, they will not put you through shit. Just do what they want you to do, and you will benefit from them.

08-23-2002, 06:43 AM	#1
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	Paypal fucked me, somebody have a phone # ? I cannot find a phonenumber of paypal anywhere on their site. There used to be one somewhere, does anyone have the phonenumber of paypal ? Thnx __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

08-23-2002, 06:44 AM	#2
GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	http://paypalwarning.com/ __________________ https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

08-23-2002, 06:46 AM	#3
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	Thnx GFED ! How are you btw ? __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

08-23-2002, 06:49 AM	#5
GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	Great, thanks! Good luck with PayPal bro. __________________ https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

08-23-2002, 06:55 AM	#6
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08-23-2002, 06:48 AM	#4
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08-23-2002, 07:17 AM	#7
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	I wouldn't use Paypal even if it was the last alternative on earth. This shit is not FDIC insured, if they go bankrupt or decide to leave with your money, you are fucked! ARS had problems with them for their webmasters paypal payments last month.. And reading those horror stories : http://paypalwarning.com/WallOfShame/ Even if 1% of the messages are true, it's still a good reason to stay away from them and never do business. Unless you've been using them for the past 2 years and never had problems (Like 100% of people who got fucked for 2$ or 10000000$. They thought the same thing) __________________ Last edited by NoCarrier; 08-23-2002 at 07:20 AM..

08-23-2002, 07:26 AM	#9
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Ebay bought and owns paypal if im not mistaken __________________ blunts

08-23-2002, 07:35 AM	#10
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	I need to cut and paste this thread to the people who, EVERY DAY, complain about us not using paypal. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

08-23-2002, 07:38 AM	#11
GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	They both suck... http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...aypal+sucks%22 http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...2ebay+sucks%22 __________________ https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

08-23-2002, 07:53 AM	#12
.:Frog:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ~ C A N A D A ~ Posts: 2,123	Paypal has fucked alot of people - just look at all the warnings about it. If your so anal you can't wait for a check to arrive, then setup payments to be made by wire. Use paypal at your own risk.

08-23-2002, 07:56 AM	#14
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	- Grasp leg firmly at ankle - Try and stretch muscles in jaws as widely as possible - Steady and even pressure pulling outwards - If foot doesn't come out with a resounding POPPING sound... - Lube around edges of foot with KY and retry If you cannot remove foot from mouth, call Paramedics immediately for emergency service! It pays to read before making comments. FDIC was in place with PayPal a couple of years ago, at least, due to the nature of how paypal even handles the funds you have with them. http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...n/fdic-outside

08-23-2002, 07:57 AM	#15
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	paypal makes so many peoples lives easier, you can make money transfers at home.. i dont usually keep more than $500-1000 in my account... if they go bankrupt and i lose my money in there, so be it ! they saved me a lot of time.. its worth it.. well, if you guys use it like a savings account, then i dont have anything to say.. __________________

08-23-2002, 08:00 AM	#16
.:Frog:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ~ C A N A D A ~ Posts: 2,123	http://www.ygoodman.com/paypal.html

08-23-2002, 08:09 AM	#17
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	This all happened a month ago... Well here's my complete story, i have a paypal account for a while now. I only used it to transfer small amounts of money like $30-$200. I never completed my subscription to paypal by entering this 4 digit numbers. Thats why i was limited to transfer $1000 at a time. Fine with me, i thought i was more safe like that. Now i had to transfer $1000 to the best designer i know . Everything went fine, i was on icq he received the $$$ and transferred it to his bankaccount. Anyway a few days later i received an email that this transaction looked like a fraud. And they reversed the money transfer. The guy i transferred the money to is now $960 short on his account. And as the status on my account states the money was transferred back to my CC ..... NOT! I called mastercard a few hours ago and still nothing. YES I ONLY WANTED TO XFER $1000,-, THATS MY LIMIT!!! WHY IS THERE A FUCKING LIMITATION ON MY ACCOUNT THEN ? FUCKING PAYPAL SUCKS ASS. they're fucking lucky i dont live in the us . I never ever gonna use paypal anymore, and i recommend everyone else to do the same __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

08-23-2002, 09:15 AM	#18
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	READ the rules and learn how to fucking use paypal, and you will not have any problems. I have had nothing but impeccable customer service from them whenever there is a problem which last time had to do with an empty ATM machine, and was not PayPal's fault. If your account has limitations its because you either did not put the right stuff on file with them or you have not upgraded enough to be moving thousands of dollars through their system. Paypal is one of the coolest things IMO when it comes to getting paid, but if you are a moron you will have problems.

08-23-2002, 09:16 AM	#19
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Damn thats rough bro, i just used my paypal account for the first time last night to send choker some $ for traffic. I will never send more than 100$ or receive more than 100$ now that i've seen all these complaints. __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

08-23-2002, 09:23 AM	#20
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	Paypal reversed a payment (after 2 month or so) without reason, put my account on hold (no response to my fax) and my $1000 is still stuck somewhere in /dev/null. Same happened to a Dutch friend. Paypal is a fucking nightmare if you're european. Im sure they offer a great service for US/CA clients but that just doesnt help.

08-23-2002, 09:30 AM	#21
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	We've used it almost from its inception and moved alot more than 1k at a time many times. Never had a problem in all these years. (Although until the FDIC went in to effect, we kept our bulk in the regular bank and drew from that) Odds are most of the problems occur when people do not follow the rules or don't allow them a chk acct no. etc. They ARE a bank and if you don't trust THEM better get your $$ out and under your mattress. When they legitimately lock an account for checking an odd movement of cash, they are protecting YOU. The brick and mortar bank down the street will do the same thing if all of a sudden some odd cash movement happens. Say you usually only pay utilities etc... then all of a sudden a check for 10 or 20k comes in... Guess what? Clang. Also they have your signature on file and can compare it to the check, so there are many more checks and balances in the brick bank than you ever know about. I used to move very large sums to other countries to purchase materials and they would call me to verify the check was real. Even having my and my ex's signatures on file. lol Its just easier to deal with a brick and mortar since you can walk in and they see a person versus email or phone calls. If you don't want to give paypal the information they really need to not worry about the cash movements, then don't use them. Pay those high costs on wires. We will continue using paypal until such time that ebay messes them up, if that doesn't happen, they are the best way to make payments online cheaply.

08-23-2002, 10:40 AM	#24
slackor Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 101	PayPal is not a bank, I had my account frozen and it took about 10 phone-calls, e-mails and faxes to fix it. A month later they decided to unfreeze it. Turned out logging in from another country is triggers the fraud system. Never keep any more than you can't afford to lose in your PayPal account.

08-23-2002, 03:03 PM	#27
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Hi, They placed my account on hold as well(with 200 bucks in it) I mailed and filled in the form 298047293429 times, with no luck. After ebay bought paypal, I thought well I try it one more time. I filled in the form in the memberarea. CHanged my pass, and secret question etc.(like they ask you to do after filling in the form) And guess what? within 10 days my aaccount was open again! Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

08-24-2002, 06:00 AM	#28
posh rat in hell Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 403	I was cheated by a merchant who I paid via paypal, and never shipped the goods (a performance modification for my car). Paypal would not refund me any of my money until I threatened a chargeback, and then only 30%. I did a chargeback and got back 100%. Paypal never took away their 30. All in all, I still use paypal, but only when I'm positive the deal is safe, and I always fund my account with a CC that I know will chargeback on my whim.

08-24-2002, 06:51 AM	#29
Rex Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 2,241	I just won a dispute somebody filed against me 30 days ago. They had like 160 bucks tied up for 30 days which kind of blew. If you call and bug themn then I think it helps your case. I called about every other day and eventually won. The lady was a lying hahahaha too. __________________ I don't own RexMag anymore.

08-24-2002, 01:22 PM	#30
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	I'll start calling, faxing and emailing 1st thing monday morning __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

08-24-2002, 01:51 PM	#31
thechink Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: west bank of md. Posts: 294	I had a guy rip me off for $500. which I had paid him thru paypal. They told me tough shit. The person was a verified business member. I had to take care of it myself. FUCK PAYPAL __________________ www.thechink.com<br><br>I Don't Really Exist.<br><br>Mazel Tov !

08-24-2002, 02:31 PM	#32
DarkestWeb Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 110	For all of you that say PayPal is great, you will think that until they do it to you, completely RANDOM and for no reason at all. I used to think they were great and these stories were from individuals who didn't follow the rules, until they did it to me. Locked my account one day just for the hell of it apparently. Took me 4.5 months to get it open again so I could get my money out, fuck them. MoTives __________________ <a href=http://www.elitesponsors.com target=_blank>Full List of some of the best adult sponsors!</a>

08-24-2002, 02:43 PM	#33
miss^behaving Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 213	I haven't had a problem with paypal and I hope I never do. __________________ 40,000+ expired names daily plus a TON more.

08-24-2002, 04:08 PM	#36
ronin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Main St. Posts: 1,300	i don't have a account w/them but thought w/the ebay deal that they planned to ended gambeling & adult.. true or what?? what are the other pros & cons of useing them??

08-24-2002, 04:20 PM	#37
Killerelf Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 367	Paypall has their office in Omaha NE, Right next door! Anyone wnt me to go collect LOL __________________ I am not allowed to tell you anything that I feel like telling you

08-24-2002, 09:18 PM	#38
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	boldy, I have a phone # for you to call. 888-357-8166 or 661-252-2456 With these #s you will be able to get setup with a great billing company using support people that actually care about you anbd your business. :-) Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

08-24-2002, 09:42 PM	#39
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Mitch the vulture with 9 lives __________________ blunts

08-24-2002, 10:30 PM	#40
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	the phone number takes about 10 seconds to find on the site. find it. use it. love it. I would never mail or fax about sums of money. Humanise what is owed people. I have always found their customer support to be first class. That said I still don't keep over 1k in my account, and their exchange rate bites dog balls.

08-24-2002, 10:36 PM	#41
tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	fuck Gay-Pal

08-24-2002, 10:46 PM	#42
gotys Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 767	I can't say anything bad about paypal. PayPal completely ROCKS, I even have my own banker over there, whom I can call on cell-phone at midnight if I am having problems. It's a really cool place. I had problems before, but once you learn their basic rules, they will not put you through shit. Just do what they want you to do, and you will benefit from them. __________________ PicHunter.com,ClipHunter.com,HomeTwat.com -------------------------------------------- not accepting any trades, not selling spots