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Old 05-17-2007, 06:33 PM   #1
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Regarding Iraq, what pisses you off more?

The fact that we should have never invaded and now we're stuck in the middle of a civil war......

or

That the French were right all along?
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:40 PM   #2
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The fact that we should have never invaded and now we're stuck in the middle of a civil war......

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That the French were right all along?

That we invaded at all.. I was against the war before it ever started. The French were right? lol na the French weren't right about anything, the French and the Russians were against the Iraq invasion because they had deals going with Saddam and were making money from him.

Had their been money in attacking Iraq for the French or the Russians, they would have quickly jumped on board. They aren't anybetter than the US govt, it's all about money on either side of the coin.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:54 PM   #4
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Getting lied to, is nothing new. Most govts lie to their pesants all the time. It's nothing new for the US govt either.
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That, no later then today in the Rose Garden, some idiots claim that it was just ....
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Getting lied to, is nothing new. Most govts lie to their pesants all the time. It's nothing new for the US govt either.
No, nothing new... but nothing has been such a blatantly obvious lie either. And yet people still supported it.

If you're going to lie to me, don't let me know it's a lie.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:32 PM   #7
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the total lack of understanding of the arabic culture, and the idealized belief that anything close to an american style democracy would (will) work there.

if you've ever tried to do business with camel jockeys you will know that they are the most miserable, lying, two-faced, nasty sons-of-a-bitches on earth.

and that just isn't the ones you'll encounter in america, that's the experience you'll get when dealing with them any where in the world.

you cannot make a deal with them, because their word is no good. they are mostly arrogant, argumentative, and naturally combative. everyone i know (in business) hates dealing with them.

maybe because they come from the desert, where it's hot, and they don't get enough fresh fruits and vegetables---maybe that fucks up their minds.

there is a reason the world calls them dune coons and ragheads. there is a reason for all stereotypes.

there is a reason a culture needs a fucking dictator.
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what pisses me off is when politicians talk about cutting and running and no retreat and its not their blood or even their families blood. Its some poor working class kid trying to get money college.
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the total lack of understanding of the arabic culture, and the idealized belief that anything close to an american style democracy would (will) work there.

if you've ever tried to do business with camel jockeys you will know that they are the most miserable, lying, two-faced, nasty sons-of-a-bitches on earth.

and that just isn't the ones you'll encounter in america, that's the experience you'll get when dealing with them any where in the world.

you cannot make a deal with them, because their word is no good. they are mostly arrogant, argumentative, and naturally combative. everyone i know (in business) hates dealing with them.

maybe because they come from the desert, where it's hot, and they don't get enough fresh fruits and vegetables---maybe that fucks up their minds.

there is a reason the world calls them dune coons and ragheads. there is a reason for all stereotypes.

there is a reason a culture needs a fucking dictator.
shouldn't you be mowing some lawn somewhere?
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what pisses me off is when politicians talk about cutting and running and no retreat and its not their blood or even their families blood. Its some poor working class kid trying to get money college.
HOW DARE YOU!

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I hate it when people get up in arms about the war and they have no clue about the facts (not saying you im talking about the public in general)
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The fact that we should have never invaded and now we're stuck in the middle of a civil war......

or

That the French were right all along?
Basically stems from the Iraq excursion being irrelevant and generated thru greed while many thousands have suffered, will be screwed for life or dead.

The extent of this damage is huge, - in Iraq as a country, the people in Iraq, US military and for the US as a country.

The damage includes extensive contamination of Iraq by DU, people will die from that for many decades to come and at a level which makes the current death rate appear as a grain of sand.

The people of Iraq have suffered more than anyone and continue to suffer daily. Approx 4500 children under the age of five are dying every month from hunger and disease - forgetting those killed. There is no effective medical aid to handle the levels of casualties - they die.

On the US side, the same effects of DU will/are taking the toll on US troops and will do for decades. Tho minor in relation to the deaths, the US economy has been screwed - and will continue to be screwed for, who knows, another five years minimum?

This was a perceived "war" instigated by the idiot brain dead and clueless - no penalty against the initiators would be too great, but that would still not be any level of justice for the Iraqi people or those in the US.

And, yes, the French were right - along with the majority of the world who elected not to get involved with a lump of human waste and his ambitions to have a war in Iraq.
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Why does it have to be that the French were right? Just because the French piss the Americans off so much?

It was the United Nations Security Council that had said no to an invasion, not France.

A little reminder of what happened
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Why does it have to be that the French were right? Just because the French piss the Americans off so much?
Agree - nothing to do with the French. That was just the learned hatred oozing thru - strange how mass hate can be generated based on nothing eh?
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That we invaded at all.. I was against the war before it ever started. The French were right? lol na the French weren't right about anything, the French and the Russians were against the Iraq invasion because they had deals going with Saddam and were making money from him.

Had their been money in attacking Iraq for the French or the Russians, they would have quickly jumped on board. They aren't anybetter than the US govt, it's all about money on either side of the coin.
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the total lack of understanding of the arabic culture, and the idealized belief that anything close to an american style democracy would (will) work there.

if you've ever tried to do business with camel jockeys you will know that they are the most miserable, lying, two-faced, nasty sons-of-a-bitches on earth.

and that just isn't the ones you'll encounter in america, that's the experience you'll get when dealing with them any where in the world.

you cannot make a deal with them, because their word is no good. they are mostly arrogant, argumentative, and naturally combative. everyone i know (in business) hates dealing with them.

maybe because they come from the desert, where it's hot, and they don't get enough fresh fruits and vegetables---maybe that fucks up their minds.

there is a reason the world calls them dune coons and ragheads. there is a reason for all stereotypes.

there is a reason a culture needs a fucking dictator.

Yeup, I recon there's more than a grain of truth in your opinions here latinsojourn. Throw in a good pinch of religious bullshit into the whole Iraq/middle east cauldron and you've got yourself a brew down there that will probably stink & fester till doomsday.
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The thing that pisses me off the most is that Americans are not unanimously united with our President and our troops.

In my book it is treason.
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mostly just that people are dying for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

I was never brainwashed into hating the French in the first place, that's just idiotic.
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In my book it is treason.
In my book warrantless spying, going to war without an act of congress and suspending habeas corpus is treason. So is trying to make a King out of a President.
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The thing that pisses me off the most is that Americans are not unanimously united with our President and our troops.

In my book it is treason.
The "President" is a lump of garbage who has caused far more damage to the US than even your favorite flavor of "terrorists" could do - surprised he's even still walking and not in a jail cell.

Sure... it's treason in all democracies not to be united Not being united behind a total asshole never was treason - nor was totally opposing him treason, - but you'd never know that. You are just too stupid.
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mostly just that people are dying for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Agree with ya man - same in my book and above all other bullshit, reasons and excuses
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In my book it is treason.
I was kinda wondering where Splum was.

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haha.. and all the overdone, heard it before, regurgitated arguments, statements and comments again and again and again as if the discussion started yesterday.
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haha.. and all the overdone, heard it before, regurgitated arguments, statements and comments again and again and again as if the discussion started yesterday.
Ok Add the next option...

(d) regret the number of repetitive threads "discussing" shit which has been discussed to death with the same responses a hundred times over...
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?If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the thereat posed by Iraq?s weapons of mass destruction program? President Bill Clinton Feb. 17, 1998

?I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.? Sen. John F Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

?We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.? Al Gore, Sept. 23 2002

?We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.? Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

?We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.? Madeline Albright, Feb. 1, 1998

?He (Saddam Hussein) will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 19983.? Sandy Berger (Clinton National Security Adviser), Feb. 18, 1998

?Saddam Hussein has been engaged in development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspections process.? Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA) Dec. 16 1998
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the total lack of understanding of the arabic culture, and the idealized belief that anything close to an American style
democracy would (will) work there.

if you've ever tried to do business with camel jockeys you will know that they are the most miserable, lying, two-faced, nasty sons-of-a-bitches on earth.

and that just isn't the ones you'll encounter in America, that's the experience you'll get when dealing with them any where in the world.

you cannot make a deal with them, because their word is no good. they are mostly arrogant, argumentative, and naturally combative. everyone i know (in business)
hates dealing with them.

maybe because they come from the desert, where it's hot, and they don't get enough fresh fruits and vegetables---maybe that fucks up their minds.

there is a reason the world calls them dune coons and ragheads. there is a reason for all stereotypes.

there is a reason a culture needs a fucking dictator.
---

i won't defence Arabs for sure, i don't like Arabs aether for some reasons, but there is something You all should pay respect this:

1. America isn't a world Police,

2. there are other type of understandings/cultures/traditions, i m not saying You should respect them - i will say You have to respect them,

3. why did You go to Iraq? who the fuck are You? and who called You there?

4. you went to middle east for stealing their resources and making money/greater Israel no lie,

5. Your fucking geography and your resources are probably dieing and you want to locate middle east (remember the Catrina hurricane).

6. maybe some people missed even Saddam because some of Your soldiers acting as fucking crime machines there.

7. your liberating understanding is breaking people's moral/culture/traditions, so believe me World doesn't mind you're supermen

8. fuck Imperialism

9. i don't mind if someone will hurt because of my words, cause some days you can knock our dor also, so i won't be a player here,

10. and last; i don't have any bad opinions about innocent American citizens, one of my Professor is an American and i have some American friends though,
i welcome everybody who are not our enemys.

Peace.
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i mean i don't have anything bad against American people, my reaction is for Your deep government and for their puppets...
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Boy some people just can't help themselves. This thread was sort of a joke ya know?

I was thinking about it because the other day my son heard the term "freedom fries" and wanted to know what it meant, so I explained to him how most people in the U.S. were mad at the French because they were trying to keep us from going to war with Iraq, so people started using the term freedom fries instead of french fries because we wanted nothing to do with anything french.

Then of course I explained to him that the French were right in the first place and that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq, and that the restaurant owners who still had "freedom fries" on their menu were either too broke to get new menus printed or were total idiots.
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Boy some people just can't help themselves. This thread was sort of a joke ya know?

I was thinking about it because the other day my son heard the term "freedom fries" and wanted to know what it meant, so I explained to him how most people in the U.S. were mad at the French because they were trying to keep us from going to war with Iraq, so people started using the term freedom fries instead of french fries because we wanted nothing to do with anything french.

Then of course I explained to him that the French were right in the first place and that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq, and that the restaurant owners who still had "freedom fries" on their menu were either too broke to get new menus printed or were total idiots.
lol ... what a bunch of retard ...

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I think the french are pretty happy with their decision, as well as Canada, Germany, Russia ....

It is an Anglo-Saxon war ....
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?If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the thereat posed by Iraq?s weapons of mass destruction program? President Bill Clinton Feb. 17, 1998

?I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.? Sen. John F Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

?We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.? Al Gore, Sept. 23 2002

?We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.? Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

?We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.? Madeline Albright, Feb. 1, 1998

?He (Saddam Hussein) will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 19983.? Sandy Berger (Clinton National Security Adviser), Feb. 18, 1998

?Saddam Hussein has been engaged in development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspections process.? Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA) Dec. 16 1998

How quickly they forget...
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Which one of them invaded Iraq????

Looks like I need an update on that ...
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:09 PM   #37
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the right forgets we put saddam in power and then wonder why they hate us. lol
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:00 PM   #38
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I think that what bugs me the most is that we're sending BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars over there to keep fighting the war, while it seems like every other week in the local newspaper, there's articles of cuts in schooling, food programs, organizations like arts, and in township operations, just to name a few.

It's getting rediculas. I don't see why we're sooooo quick to send BILLIONS or dollars overseas while we're cutting EVERYTHING on our own land.
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I think that what bugs me the most is that we're sending BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars over there to keep fighting the war, while it seems like every other week in the local newspaper, there's articles of cuts in schooling, food programs, organizations like arts, and in township operations, just to name a few.

It's getting rediculas. I don't see why we're sooooo quick to send BILLIONS or dollars overseas while we're cutting EVERYTHING on our own land.
You dont get it do you?

Osama Bin Laden stressed from the very beginning that his aim was to bankrupt the USA. Thats exactly whats happening, funds are being drained from the "Land of The Free"

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the total lack of understanding of the arabic culture, and the idealized belief that anything close to an american style democracy would (will) work there.

if you've ever tried to do business with camel jockeys you will know that they are the most miserable, lying, two-faced, nasty sons-of-a-bitches on earth.

and that just isn't the ones you'll encounter in america, that's the experience you'll get when dealing with them any where in the world.

you cannot make a deal with them, because their word is no good. they are mostly arrogant, argumentative, and naturally combative. everyone i know (in business) hates dealing with them.

maybe because they come from the desert, where it's hot, and they don't get enough fresh fruits and vegetables---maybe that fucks up their minds.

there is a reason the world calls them dune coons and ragheads. there is a reason for all stereotypes.

there is a reason a culture needs a fucking dictator.
The comment above makes me very sad. It takes some balls to throw stones like that.

Jesus. We are all fucked. I can't even watch the news anymore. It's like watching a reality show with marketing and the whole nine to make sure it's "catchy" news. All lies... I stay at my computer and work and try to be a good person.

While I may not support our president, I DO support our troops. They defend our freedom so we can sit here in our democracy and say rotten shit like the above quote. Stop the hate, kids. Not trying to get everyone around the fire for some Kum ba yah, but we sure could be a lot nicer to one another.
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