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Old 05-16-2007, 03:16 PM   #1
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damn,how long has TGP traffic been so bad?

these days its damn near impossible for surfers to get to a gallery.They click and click and click hoping to reach a gallery and never do


When i ran tgp sites the surfer would always get galleries on the first few clicks but now a days its all shuffling back and forth
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:20 PM   #2
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Depends on whether its a CJ fest or something with a "Brand" and a rep like the hun.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:26 PM   #3
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bad tgp traffic....Cj makes me mad.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:40 PM   #4
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lots of traffic seems to be more important than quality, I agree
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:44 PM   #5
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Which is why all my tgp sites have no scripts on them - and I now host the galleries myself or build them from scratch myself. Good for SERPs, and good for the surfer, and I don't trade - keep getting burned over and over and over again.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:59 PM   #6
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lots of traffic seems to be more important than quality, I agree
maybe im from the old school


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Old 05-16-2007, 05:01 PM   #7
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seems you have to really find the niche that sells with the high traffic sites. and it is true ratios are going up, used to be easy 1:700 now it looks like 1:1200 or more !!!
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:06 PM   #8
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Do you mean we are finally getting back to CJ's!? Yippieeeeee!
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:10 PM   #9
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Do you mean we are finally getting back to CJ's!? Yippieeeeee!
everything seems to come full circle
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:12 PM   #10
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I skim 70-80% to galleries and sales still suck as compared to other site types...especially for the last month or so...

Doing the worst I've ever done TGPwise. I'm pretty much just keepin em to give PR boosts to other sites at this point.

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Old 05-16-2007, 05:16 PM   #11
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The smart guys know how to make traffic without skiming the hell out of it and you should see there sales stats
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:17 PM   #12
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To some extend it's the recent spyware wave which especially poisons TGP traffic.

Most TGPs make almost all their money from selling submit passes, gallery spots and skimmed traffic, not a big secret, so they focus on maximum traffic to make buyers think they get alot for their money.

There are quality TGPs for sure, around for a long time with a solid bookmarker base, but the rest is just a waste of money and bandwidth...and there are still enough fools who pay for shit.
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I think the only content a surfer needs to see is on tours. They are fukkin Movie gallery-like nowadays anyway. Kick the surfer around and make him appreciate the tours so he's more likely to sign up.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:28 PM   #14
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I think the only content a surfer needs to see is on tours. They are fukkin Movie gallery-like nowadays anyway. Kick the surfer around and make him appreciate the tours so he's more likely to sign up.
That would be great, like the good old times, no free porn and once the surfer is tired of being sent around from site to site he clicks a banner and happily pulls out his credit card to end the popup CJ hell !
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:52 PM   #15
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lots of traffic seems to be more important than quality, I agree
All sites should look like freeones.com
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:10 PM   #16
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damn,how long has TGP traffic been so bad?
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:18 PM   #17
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the worst is when they click on thumbs that lead them to shady TGPs that install scumwares and viruses.. Some people I know are telling me that they are afraid to browse free adult websites like TGPs cause they'll get infected with something.. THat cannot be good for the biz.. and I think its something that needs to be adressed..

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Old 05-16-2007, 06:50 PM   #18
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:41 PM   #19
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That would be great, like the good old times, no free porn...
When exactly was there no free porn? I have been doing this since April 1996 and there was plenty of free porn around then...
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I agree, which is why we are so proud of our TGP-like site www.PornPimps.com. It's like a TGP because of the thumbs but that's about it, instead of galleries we post the content itself and host everything on our own. It gives surfers a great experience and keeps them coming back.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:50 PM   #21
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these days its damn near impossible for surfers to get to a gallery.They click and click and click hoping to reach a gallery and never do
I thought you were gonna talk about 1:5000 ratios.
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I agree, which is why we are so proud of our TGP-like site www.PornPimps.com. It's like a TGP because of the thumbs but that's about it, instead of galleries we post the content itself and host everything on our own. It gives surfers a great experience and keeps them coming back.
I'm sure they do.. because why would they ever need to join a porn site with that much content waiting for them? Do you ever send any signups, or is it all about traffic for that site?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:04 PM   #24
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I thought you were gonna talk about 1:5000 ratios.
I will leave that for another thread. This one is about shuffling surfers from site to site
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I'm sure they do.. because why would they ever need to join a porn site with that much content waiting for them? Do you ever send any signups, or is it all about traffic for that site?
Nah, we just do it for fun.

Of course we send signups, how else would we be able to pay for the bandwidth? We give them the same amount of content than any gallery would, they just don't have to click a bunch of places to get to it. We try to make it a better surfer experience..
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I will leave that for another thread. This one is about shuffling surfers from site to site
i am always amazed at the programs that allow their content to be used as trade bait...
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The smart guys know how to make traffic without skiming the hell out of it and you should see there sales stats
I have been intensively investigating the pro's and con's and there are some great techniques one can apply to gain max return.
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i am always amazed at the programs that allow their content to be used as trade bait...
ATK at one point tried to take an active stance against it. Not sure they still enforce it but it is a valid point as tgp's get closer to CJ's again.
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I'm sure they do.. because why would they ever need to join a porn site with that much content waiting for them? Do you ever send any signups, or is it all about traffic for that site?

Mail The Hun with that message and he will give you an answer you wont forget in a hurry.

The porn industry has two methods

MACHINE GUN - fire many bullets in hope that one will hit the target.

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i am always amazed at the programs that allow their content to be used as trade bait...
It's not so bad when only x number of clicks go to a trade. There are some tgp's out there where every click goes to a trade, I saw one the other day where ALL the thumbs were linked to TrafficHolder.
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There are lots of bad tgp out there.. but also there are lots good ones too.. so I think it really depeneds....
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I really dont care much for TGPs..LLs are more surfer friendly
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So who has a list of TGP's that use hard links only, no skimming?
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