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RogerV · 08-22-2002, 07:20 PM

We will be launching this program real soon for prepaid cellphones.
It will work real well because alot of people have bad credit anyone can have a cell phone now! they will all be approved!
http://www.freedomselectwireless.com/

We have tested the market with it in telemarketing and it's doing great also will have a spanish text version.

what are your thoughts on this? Is there anything we should change?

It will pay a like $30 for evey sale and you will also get paid on minutes they keep purchasing.

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:27 PM

Im not sure how it works in the US, but here in canada you can pick up prepaid phones at convenience stores, gas stations, post offices, etc...

Is there a reason people will buy those online?

Killerelf · 08-22-2002, 07:27 PM

A person that is on the internet doesn't need a cell phone or they already have on. Do you know anyone that needs a cell phone? Everyone I know already has one. Except the really poor fuckers that are going to rip you off.

Thats just how I feel. I may be wrong though.

Oh BTW isn't this SPAM

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 07:31 PM

We have been selling alot through teleMarketing.
Not sure how well it will do online yet.
but its a sweet system on how they can buy more minutes.
and everyone will be approved.

In canada do they have to buy cards to insert or can they just purchase more minutes online or over the cell?

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV
We have been selling alot through teleMarketing.
Not sure how well it will do online yet.
but its a sweet system on how they can buy more minutes.
and everyone will be approved.

In canada do they have to buy cards to insert or can they just purchase more minutes online or over the cell?

You just buy a card for whatever amount, call a number on the cell, punch in the number on back of card and its done.

Im curious how this will sell online, i would figure most people who go for pre-paid phones dont have credit cards or money or jobs.

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Killerelf
A person that is on the internet doesn't need a cell phone or they already have on. Do you know anyone that needs a cell phone? Everyone I know already has one. Except the really poor fuckers that are going to rip you off.

Thats just how I feel. I may be wrong though.

Oh BTW isn't this SPAM

The program isn't ready yet I'm just trying to get a feel for what you guys think about it. How is this a spam?

I see people posting there tgp's and sites all the time for review.
and posting there models.

How is this a spam?

quiet · 08-22-2002, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

You just buy a card for whatever amount, call a number on the cell, punch in the number on back of card and its done.

they're great if you need a phone that is untraceable to the owner.

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Gary

You just buy a card for whatever amount, call a number on the cell, punch in the number on back of card and its done.

Im curious how this will sell online, i would figure most people who go for pre-paid phones dont have credit cards or money or jobs.

On this system you don't have to buy a card you can buy more minutes over the internet and it adds your minutes to the phone.
its pretty sweet.
great for people who try to keep there minutes under control.

JFPdude · 08-22-2002, 07:46 PM

Uhhh RogerV I hate to piss on your parade but those prices for airtime is outragous.

the cheapest plan I see is 26 cents a minute and only if you buy 400 minutes.

Up to that point it was looking like a sweet program that I would have pushed.

I'd still try it but I think thats going to be your downfall.

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
Uhhh RogerV I hate to piss on your parade but those prices for airtime is outragous.

the cheapest plan I see is 26 cents a minute and only if you buy 400 minutes.

Up to that point it was looking like a sweet program that I would have pushed.

I'd still try it but I think thats going to be your downfall.

Whats the going rate on the street?

12clicks · 08-22-2002, 07:47 PM

Roger, the real deal would be to have a web able phone connect to your site for replenishment of minutes.
Then they could buy minutes from you right over the phone.

beemk · 08-22-2002, 07:47 PM

gary is right, anyone who has a computer with internet most likely wouldnt have any kind of interest in these.

JFPdude · 08-22-2002, 07:48 PM

In my area Gary 0.06 cents a minute IE 500 minutes for 30.00

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
gary is right, anyone who has a computer with internet most likely wouldnt have any kind of interest in these.

Thanks, i am always right, But i didnt say that, someone else did. hehe

I dont know, it might sell, im just thinking your catering to a lower class of people who cant buy shit online anyway. But i dont know.

12clicks · 08-22-2002, 07:49 PM

whatg are you guys talking about? we've already made MILLIONS of dollars selling cellphones over the net.
The market for cellphones is definately there.

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
In my area Gary 0.06 cents a minute IE 500 minutes for 30.00

Is that prepaid or on a regular plan? Cause prepaid is always more expensive i think

JFPdude · 08-22-2002, 07:50 PM

Gary on another note hit me up on ICQ 4433144

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
whatg are you guys talking about? we've already made MILLIONS of dollars selling cellphones over the net.
The market for cellphones is definately there.

Prepaid phones?

JFPdude · 08-22-2002, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

Is that prepaid or on a regular plan? Cause prepaid is always more expensive i think

Prepaid

12clicks · 08-22-2002, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Gary

Prepaid phones?

well no. that would make Roger a competitor. Then I wouldn't be posting positive stuff in his thread.

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

well no. that would make Roger a competitor. Then I wouldn't be posting positive stuff in his thread.

Thats my point, prepaid phones are designed for people without credit, credit cards or jobs. no?

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
Uhhh RogerV I hate to piss on your parade but those prices for airtime is outragous.

the cheapest plan I see is 26 cents a minute and only if you buy 400 minutes.

Up to that point it was looking like a sweet program that I would have pushed.

I'd still try it but I think thats going to be your downfall.

I heard that! once we test it online I will have stats to show if its doing well.
Still to early to tell? but your right the minutes are to high we might be able to lower it who knows. we are going to pay on the minutes they purchase as well to the webmaster.

it will be going thru beta testing within the month.

we want to launch some sweet mainstream deals within the pornkings new program. soon all our programs will be intergrated
with many new program options on adult and mainstream. to better convert your traffic.

12clicks · 08-22-2002, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

Thats my point, prepaid phones are designed for people without credit, credit cards or jobs. no?

Yes they are but the number of people on the net that fit your description is mind boggling.
The only reason we never ran with pre-paid is that there was never enough money in it for us. (not because there were not enough low lifes on the net)

If Roger has an angle, more power to him.

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
Roger, the real deal would be to have a web able phone connect to your site for replenishment of minutes.
Then they could buy minutes from you right over the phone.

I think they will be able to buy minutes over the phone just like you stated.

Kimmykim · 08-22-2002, 07:56 PM

Roger, you know I love ya buddy, but you are starting to sound like Mitch.

Lay off the spamming, and yes, this is spamming. You know it, we all know it.

Gary · 08-22-2002, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

If Roger has an angle, more power to him.

Absolutely

Good luck roger.

12clicks · 08-22-2002, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by RogerV

I think they will be able to buy minutes over the phone just like you stated.

its a little tricky. you'd need to overcome the "CC input over the phone to the net" problem
like setting up an account ahead of time with their CC associated with the account so you could hit the card when they tap the account

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Yes they are but the number of people on the net that fit your description is mind boggling.
The only reason we never ran with pre-paid is that there was never enough money in it for us. (not because there were not enough low lifes on the net)

If Roger has an angle, more power to him.

There are alot of people with bad credit online thats why there are so many approved credit card deals
which is another thing we are working on
and thanks 12 clicks for the positive tip

hyper · 08-22-2002, 08:01 PM

12clicks · 08-22-2002, 08:01 PM

at least its interesting spam.

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Roger, you know I love ya buddy, but you are starting to sound like Mitch.

Lay off the spamming, and yes, this is spamming. You know it, we all know it.

How is this spamming? cause I want to see what everyone thinks of something we are working on.

Its not even live yet!

Come on Kimmy whats up? you tell me what these boards a for if its not to throw idea's around and shoot the shit?

trust me I don't need to spam the boards i have plenty of double opted in webamsters over 100k I can spam to all day long.

the only way I get feed back on us is thru these boards positive or negative its all good. keeps me improving what we have already.

Lane · 08-22-2002, 08:05 PM

lol, i pay $50 for 2500 nationwide minutes

hyper · 08-22-2002, 08:18 PM

this is prepaid..

prepaid averages 50 cents a minute to 75 cents a minute.

This is what i would do. 25 cents to 40 cents based on the minutes they buy. #1 selling point

30, 60, 200, 400 minutes
just have a few select plans so they dont get confused

most companies have a time limit on the minutes
ie: must be used withing 30 or 60 days..

Don't limit there minute.. A good selling point

put a starter package together, 1 phone, 60 minutes 49.95 or whatever.. i havent seen the site so i dont know what your plans are..

and it doesnt matter about the credit card.. because most atm debit cards will work

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
this is prepaid..

prepaid averages 50 cents a minute to 75 cents a minute.

This is what i would do. 25 cents to 40 cents based on the minutes they buy. #1 selling point

30, 60, 200, 400 minutes
just have a few select plans so they dont get confused

most companies have a time limit on the minutes
ie: must be used withing 30 or 60 days..

Don't limit there minute.. A good selling point

put a starter package together, 1 phone, 60 minutes 49.95 or whatever.. i havent seen the site so i dont know what your plans are..

and it doesnt matter about the credit card.. because most atm debit cards will work

Thanks for the feedback

I like to see what webmasters think since they are the one's we build these programs for.
So we can improve and build a great poduct to promote.

I can promote these products off all our traffic sources but if it does well why not let others get a piece of the pie. this way we all prosper.

foe · 08-22-2002, 08:33 PM

I think its pretty stupid but thats just me

Pinkpays · 08-22-2002, 08:48 PM

Roger...I think its a good idea...I'm not sure it will work...but what do you have to loose try it out and see...
I know we make good cash on our search engine from people clicking thru and buying cell phones...Good luck!!

Matt

Pinkpays - Paying 5% on all Webmaster Referrals

Kimmykim · 08-22-2002, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV

How is this spamming? cause I want to see what everyone thinks of something we are working on.

Its not even live yet!

Um, ok Rog.

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Um, ok Rog.

Kimmy why do you keep busting my balls on everything I post?
I thought we were kewl. I post on alot of topics but i don't think what I posted is spam.

I'm not spamming I'm trying to get feedback.
I have alot of good products i want to launch so i want to see what everyone thinks before i launch them.
whats wrong with that?
and I'm in all the industry mags top placement spots. I don't need to spam here.

anyways most of these guys already send me traffic its just a good venue for me to get ideas on what they want.
I've done ALOT of biz of this board, just about a deal everyday since I became active on it.
I posted for us to do something and you still havn't contacted me

JustJen · 08-22-2002, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV

Kimmy why do you keep busting my balls on everything I post?
I thought we were kewl. I post on alot of topics but i don't think what I posted is spam.

I'm not spamming I'm trying to get feedback.
I have alot of good products i want to launch so i want to see what everyone thinks before i launch them.
whats wrong with that?
and I'm in all the industry mags top placement spots. I don't need to spam here.

anyways most of these guys already send me traffic its just a good venue for me to get ideas on what they want.
I've done ALOT of biz of this board, just about a deal everyday since I became active on it.
I posted for us to do something and you still havn't contacted me

Don't you just love to hear him beg????

Kimmykim · 08-22-2002, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by PornkingsJen

Don't you just love to hear him beg????

Give him his meds please ;)

I'm only talking to Jen from over there from now on, she's the only one with a sense of humor to start.

JustJen · 08-22-2002, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Give him his meds please ;)

I'm only talking to Jen from over there from now on, she's the only one with a sense of humor to start.

Damn straight!!!!

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Give him his meds please ;)

I'm only talking to Jen from over there from now on, she's the only one with a sense of humor to start.

I thought you were picking on me hahaha
Its all good you can still call me actually I want you to call me

Kimmykim · 08-22-2002, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV

I thought you were picking on me hahaha
Its all good you can still call me actually I want you to call me

Dude I am not calling you. I am only talking to Jen from here on out.

RogerV · 08-22-2002, 10:46 PM

damn

come on Kimmy

RogerV · 09-20-2002, 05:02 PM

We have finally launched the pre-paid cell deal.
http://mshop.freedomselectwireless.com/

KRosh · 09-20-2002, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
gary is right, anyone who has a computer with internet most likely wouldnt have any kind of interest in these.

This is not true... you do not need to have good credit to get a free internet service.

Prepaid cellular is more popular than ever. People don't want to sign long term contracts and they mostly have shitty credit.

I sold phones for 6 years and I look around now ..the Market for prepaid is huge.

RogerV · 09-20-2002, 05:09 PM

It's still starting to grow alot.

they can pay thru Western Union and alot of people are black listed because of not paying cell bills.

playa · 09-20-2002, 05:29 PM

the other day i was at a mobile phone store,,
and they told the lady next to me that she would need
to put a $1k deposit to get a cell phone,,

damn,

frankfortuna · 09-20-2002, 07:13 PM

On a similar, note. For those of you who spend a significant amount on long distance, check out Vonage. They have a IP telephony system that functions extrordinarily well for $39.99/mo. unlimited LD. It basically involves adding a Cisco ATA-186 IP telephony adapter to your home or office network (broadband required) and you attach a regular phone to it.

http://www.originateit.com

Sorry for the SPAM, but it is a cool service.

08-22-2002, 07:27 PM	#2
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Im not sure how it works in the US, but here in canada you can pick up prepaid phones at convenience stores, gas stations, post offices, etc... Is there a reason people will buy those online? __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

08-22-2002, 07:27 PM	#3
Killerelf Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 367	A person that is on the internet doesn't need a cell phone or they already have on. Do you know anyone that needs a cell phone? Everyone I know already has one. Except the really poor fuckers that are going to rip you off. Thats just how I feel. I may be wrong though. Oh BTW isn't this SPAM __________________ I am not allowed to tell you anything that I feel like telling you

08-22-2002, 07:47 PM	#11
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	Roger, the real deal would be to have a web able phone connect to your site for replenishment of minutes. Then they could buy minutes from you right over the phone. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	gary is right, anyone who has a computer with internet most likely wouldnt have any kind of interest in these. __________________ I host with Vacares

08-22-2002, 07:49 PM	#15
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	whatg are you guys talking about? we've already made MILLIONS of dollars selling cellphones over the net. The market for cellphones is definately there. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

08-22-2002, 07:20 PM	#1
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	Not just another cellphone deal We will be launching this program real soon for prepaid cellphones. It will work real well because alot of people have bad credit anyone can have a cell phone now! they will all be approved! http://www.freedomselectwireless.com/ We have tested the market with it in telemarketing and it's doing great also will have a spanish text version. what are your thoughts on this? Is there anything we should change? It will pay a like $30 for evey sale and you will also get paid on minutes they keep purchasing.

08-22-2002, 07:31 PM	#4
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	We have been selling alot through teleMarketing. Not sure how well it will do online yet. but its a sweet system on how they can buy more minutes. and everyone will be approved. In canada do they have to buy cards to insert or can they just purchase more minutes online or over the cell?

08-22-2002, 07:46 PM	#9
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Uhhh RogerV I hate to piss on your parade but those prices for airtime is outragous. the cheapest plan I see is 26 cents a minute and only if you buy 400 minutes. Up to that point it was looking like a sweet program that I would have pushed. I'd still try it but I think thats going to be your downfall.

08-22-2002, 07:48 PM	#13
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	In my area Gary 0.06 cents a minute IE 500 minutes for 30.00

08-22-2002, 07:50 PM	#17
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Gary on another note hit me up on ICQ 4433144

08-22-2002, 07:56 PM	#25
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Roger, you know I love ya buddy, but you are starting to sound like Mitch. Lay off the spamming, and yes, this is spamming. You know it, we all know it.

08-22-2002, 08:01 PM	#29
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	__________________

08-22-2002, 08:01 PM	#30
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	at least its interesting spam. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

08-22-2002, 08:05 PM	#32
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	lol, i pay $50 for 2500 nationwide minutes __________________

08-22-2002, 08:18 PM	#33
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	this is prepaid.. prepaid averages 50 cents a minute to 75 cents a minute. This is what i would do. 25 cents to 40 cents based on the minutes they buy. #1 selling point 30, 60, 200, 400 minutes just have a few select plans so they dont get confused most companies have a time limit on the minutes ie: must be used withing 30 or 60 days.. Don't limit there minute.. A good selling point put a starter package together, 1 phone, 60 minutes 49.95 or whatever.. i havent seen the site so i dont know what your plans are.. and it doesnt matter about the credit card.. because most atm debit cards will work __________________

08-22-2002, 08:33 PM	#35
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	I think its pretty stupid but thats just me

08-22-2002, 08:48 PM	#36
Pinkpays Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 56	Roger...I think its a good idea...I'm not sure it will work...but what do you have to loose try it out and see... I know we make good cash on our search engine from people clicking thru and buying cell phones...Good luck!! Matt Pinkpays - Paying 5% on all Webmaster Referrals

08-22-2002, 10:46 PM	#44
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	damn come on Kimmy

09-20-2002, 05:02 PM	#45
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	We have finally launched the pre-paid cell deal. http://mshop.freedomselectwireless.com/

09-20-2002, 05:09 PM	#47
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	It's still starting to grow alot. they can pay thru Western Union and alot of people are black listed because of not paying cell bills.

09-20-2002, 05:29 PM	#48
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	the other day i was at a mobile phone store,, and they told the lady next to me that she would need to put a $1k deposit to get a cell phone,, damn,

09-20-2002, 07:13 PM	#49
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	On a similar, note. For those of you who spend a significant amount on long distance, check out Vonage. They have a IP telephony system that functions extrordinarily well for $39.99/mo. unlimited LD. It basically involves adding a Cisco ATA-186 IP telephony adapter to your home or office network (broadband required) and you attach a regular phone to it. http://www.originateit.com Sorry for the SPAM, but it is a cool service. Last edited by frankfortuna; 09-20-2002 at 07:22 PM..