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RogerV 08-22-2002 07:20 PM

Not just another cellphone deal
 
We will be launching this program real soon for prepaid cellphones.
It will work real well because alot of people have bad credit anyone can have a cell phone now! they will all be approved!
http://www.freedomselectwireless.com/

We have tested the market with it in telemarketing and it's doing great also will have a spanish text version.

what are your thoughts on this? Is there anything we should change?

It will pay a like $30 for evey sale and you will also get paid on minutes they keep purchasing.

Gary 08-22-2002 07:27 PM

Im not sure how it works in the US, but here in canada you can pick up prepaid phones at convenience stores, gas stations, post offices, etc...

Is there a reason people will buy those online?

Killerelf 08-22-2002 07:27 PM

A person that is on the internet doesn't need a cell phone or they already have on. Do you know anyone that needs a cell phone? Everyone I know already has one. Except the really poor fuckers that are going to rip you off.

Thats just how I feel. I may be wrong though.

Oh BTW isn't this SPAM

RogerV 08-22-2002 07:31 PM

We have been selling alot through teleMarketing.
Not sure how well it will do online yet.
but its a sweet system on how they can buy more minutes.
and everyone will be approved.

In canada do they have to buy cards to insert or can they just purchase more minutes online or over the cell?

Gary 08-22-2002 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV
We have been selling alot through teleMarketing.
Not sure how well it will do online yet.
but its a sweet system on how they can buy more minutes.
and everyone will be approved.

In canada do they have to buy cards to insert or can they just purchase more minutes online or over the cell?

You just buy a card for whatever amount, call a number on the cell, punch in the number on back of card and its done.

Im curious how this will sell online, i would figure most people who go for pre-paid phones dont have credit cards or money or jobs.

RogerV 08-22-2002 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Killerelf
A person that is on the internet doesn't need a cell phone or they already have on. Do you know anyone that needs a cell phone? Everyone I know already has one. Except the really poor fuckers that are going to rip you off.

Thats just how I feel. I may be wrong though.

Oh BTW isn't this SPAM

The program isn't ready yet I'm just trying to get a feel for what you guys think about it. How is this a spam?

I see people posting there tgp's and sites all the time for review.
and posting there models.

How is this a spam?

quiet 08-22-2002 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

You just buy a card for whatever amount, call a number on the cell, punch in the number on back of card and its done.
they're great if you need a phone that is untraceable to the owner.

RogerV 08-22-2002 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


You just buy a card for whatever amount, call a number on the cell, punch in the number on back of card and its done.

Im curious how this will sell online, i would figure most people who go for pre-paid phones dont have credit cards or money or jobs.

On this system you don't have to buy a card you can buy more minutes over the internet and it adds your minutes to the phone.
its pretty sweet.
great for people who try to keep there minutes under control.

JFPdude 08-22-2002 07:46 PM

Uhhh RogerV I hate to piss on your parade but those prices for airtime is outragous.

the cheapest plan I see is 26 cents a minute and only if you buy 400 minutes.

Up to that point it was looking like a sweet program that I would have pushed.

I'd still try it but I think thats going to be your downfall.

Gary 08-22-2002 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
Uhhh RogerV I hate to piss on your parade but those prices for airtime is outragous.

the cheapest plan I see is 26 cents a minute and only if you buy 400 minutes.

Up to that point it was looking like a sweet program that I would have pushed.

I'd still try it but I think thats going to be your downfall.

Whats the going rate on the street?

12clicks 08-22-2002 07:47 PM

Roger, the real deal would be to have a web able phone connect to your site for replenishment of minutes.
Then they could buy minutes from you right over the phone.:winkwink:

beemk 08-22-2002 07:47 PM

gary is right, anyone who has a computer with internet most likely wouldnt have any kind of interest in these.

JFPdude 08-22-2002 07:48 PM

In my area Gary 0.06 cents a minute IE 500 minutes for 30.00

Gary 08-22-2002 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
gary is right, anyone who has a computer with internet most likely wouldnt have any kind of interest in these.
Thanks, i am always right, But i didnt say that, someone else did. hehe

I dont know, it might sell, im just thinking your catering to a lower class of people who cant buy shit online anyway. But i dont know.

12clicks 08-22-2002 07:49 PM

whatg are you guys talking about? we've already made MILLIONS of dollars selling cellphones over the net.
The market for cellphones is definately there.

Gary 08-22-2002 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
In my area Gary 0.06 cents a minute IE 500 minutes for 30.00
Is that prepaid or on a regular plan? Cause prepaid is always more expensive i think

JFPdude 08-22-2002 07:50 PM

Gary on another note hit me up on ICQ 4433144

Gary 08-22-2002 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
whatg are you guys talking about? we've already made MILLIONS of dollars selling cellphones over the net.
The market for cellphones is definately there.

Prepaid phones?

JFPdude 08-22-2002 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


Is that prepaid or on a regular plan? Cause prepaid is always more expensive i think

Prepaid

12clicks 08-22-2002 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


Prepaid phones?

well no. that would make Roger a competitor. Then I wouldn't be posting positive stuff in his thread.:1orglaugh

Gary 08-22-2002 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


well no. that would make Roger a competitor. Then I wouldn't be posting positive stuff in his thread.:1orglaugh

Thats my point, prepaid phones are designed for people without credit, credit cards or jobs. no?

RogerV 08-22-2002 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
Uhhh RogerV I hate to piss on your parade but those prices for airtime is outragous.

the cheapest plan I see is 26 cents a minute and only if you buy 400 minutes.

Up to that point it was looking like a sweet program that I would have pushed.

I'd still try it but I think thats going to be your downfall.

I heard that! once we test it online I will have stats to show if its doing well.
Still to early to tell? but your right the minutes are to high we might be able to lower it who knows. we are going to pay on the minutes they purchase as well to the webmaster.

it will be going thru beta testing within the month.

we want to launch some sweet mainstream deals within the pornkings new program. soon all our programs will be intergrated
with many new program options on adult and mainstream. to better convert your traffic.

12clicks 08-22-2002 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


Thats my point, prepaid phones are designed for people without credit, credit cards or jobs. no?

Yes they are but the number of people on the net that fit your description is mind boggling.
The only reason we never ran with pre-paid is that there was never enough money in it for us. (not because there were not enough low lifes on the net) :1orglaugh

If Roger has an angle, more power to him.:thumbsup

RogerV 08-22-2002 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
Roger, the real deal would be to have a web able phone connect to your site for replenishment of minutes.
Then they could buy minutes from you right over the phone.:winkwink:

I think they will be able to buy minutes over the phone just like you stated.

Kimmykim 08-22-2002 07:56 PM

Roger, you know I love ya buddy, but you are starting to sound like Mitch.

Lay off the spamming, and yes, this is spamming. You know it, we all know it.

Gary 08-22-2002 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks



If Roger has an angle, more power to him.:thumbsup

Absolutely

Good luck roger.

12clicks 08-22-2002 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV


I think they will be able to buy minutes over the phone just like you stated.

its a little tricky. you'd need to overcome the "CC input over the phone to the net" problem
like setting up an account ahead of time with their CC associated with the account so you could hit the card when they tap the account

RogerV 08-22-2002 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


Yes they are but the number of people on the net that fit your description is mind boggling.
The only reason we never ran with pre-paid is that there was never enough money in it for us. (not because there were not enough low lifes on the net) :1orglaugh

If Roger has an angle, more power to him.:thumbsup

There are alot of people with bad credit online thats why there are so many approved credit card deals
which is another thing we are working on
and thanks 12 clicks for the positive tip:thumbsup

hyper 08-22-2002 08:01 PM

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~ddgarcia/gifs/spam.gif

12clicks 08-22-2002 08:01 PM

at least its interesting spam.

RogerV 08-22-2002 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Roger, you know I love ya buddy, but you are starting to sound like Mitch.

Lay off the spamming, and yes, this is spamming. You know it, we all know it.


How is this spamming? cause I want to see what everyone thinks of something we are working on.

Its not even live yet!

Come on Kimmy whats up? you tell me what these boards a for if its not to throw idea's around and shoot the shit?

trust me I don't need to spam the boards i have plenty of double opted in webamsters over 100k I can spam to all day long.

the only way I get feed back on us is thru these boards positive or negative its all good. keeps me improving what we have already.

Lane 08-22-2002 08:05 PM

lol, i pay $50 for 2500 nationwide minutes

hyper 08-22-2002 08:18 PM

this is prepaid..

prepaid averages 50 cents a minute to 75 cents a minute.

This is what i would do. 25 cents to 40 cents based on the minutes they buy. #1 selling point

30, 60, 200, 400 minutes
just have a few select plans so they dont get confused

most companies have a time limit on the minutes
ie: must be used withing 30 or 60 days..

Don't limit there minute.. A good selling point

put a starter package together, 1 phone, 60 minutes 49.95 or whatever.. i havent seen the site so i dont know what your plans are..

and it doesnt matter about the credit card.. because most atm debit cards will work

RogerV 08-22-2002 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
this is prepaid..

prepaid averages 50 cents a minute to 75 cents a minute.

This is what i would do. 25 cents to 40 cents based on the minutes they buy. #1 selling point

30, 60, 200, 400 minutes
just have a few select plans so they dont get confused

most companies have a time limit on the minutes
ie: must be used withing 30 or 60 days..

Don't limit there minute.. A good selling point

put a starter package together, 1 phone, 60 minutes 49.95 or whatever.. i havent seen the site so i dont know what your plans are..

and it doesnt matter about the credit card.. because most atm debit cards will work

Thanks for the feedback:thumbsup
I like to see what webmasters think since they are the one's we build these programs for.
So we can improve and build a great poduct to promote.

I can promote these products off all our traffic sources but if it does well why not let others get a piece of the pie. this way we all prosper.

foe 08-22-2002 08:33 PM

I think its pretty stupid but thats just me

Pinkpays 08-22-2002 08:48 PM

Roger...I think its a good idea...I'm not sure it will work...but what do you have to loose try it out and see...
I know we make good cash on our search engine from people clicking thru and buying cell phones...Good luck!!


Matt
http://www.pinkpays.com/partners/pp_120.gif
Pinkpays - Paying 5% on all Webmaster Referrals

Kimmykim 08-22-2002 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV



How is this spamming? cause I want to see what everyone thinks of something we are working on.

Its not even live yet!


Um, ok Rog.

RogerV 08-22-2002 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Um, ok Rog.

Kimmy why do you keep busting my balls on everything I post?
I thought we were kewl. I post on alot of topics but i don't think what I posted is spam.

I'm not spamming I'm trying to get feedback.
I have alot of good products i want to launch so i want to see what everyone thinks before i launch them.
whats wrong with that?
and I'm in all the industry mags top placement spots. I don't need to spam here.

anyways most of these guys already send me traffic its just a good venue for me to get ideas on what they want.
I've done ALOT of biz of this board, just about a deal everyday since I became active on it.
I posted for us to do something and you still havn't contacted me:(

JustJen 08-22-2002 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV


Kimmy why do you keep busting my balls on everything I post?
I thought we were kewl. I post on alot of topics but i don't think what I posted is spam.

I'm not spamming I'm trying to get feedback.
I have alot of good products i want to launch so i want to see what everyone thinks before i launch them.
whats wrong with that?
and I'm in all the industry mags top placement spots. I don't need to spam here.

anyways most of these guys already send me traffic its just a good venue for me to get ideas on what they want.
I've done ALOT of biz of this board, just about a deal everyday since I became active on it.
I posted for us to do something and you still havn't contacted me:(

Don't you just love to hear him beg????

Kimmykim 08-22-2002 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornkingsJen


Don't you just love to hear him beg????

Give him his meds please ;)

I'm only talking to Jen from over there from now on, she's the only one with a sense of humor to start.

JustJen 08-22-2002 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Give him his meds please ;)

I'm only talking to Jen from over there from now on, she's the only one with a sense of humor to start.

Damn straight!!!!

RogerV 08-22-2002 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Give him his meds please ;)

I'm only talking to Jen from over there from now on, she's the only one with a sense of humor to start.

:(

I thought you were picking on me hahaha
Its all good you can still call me actually I want you to call me
:)

Kimmykim 08-22-2002 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV


:(

I thought you were picking on me hahaha
Its all good you can still call me actually I want you to call me
:)

Dude I am not calling you. I am only talking to Jen from here on out.

RogerV 08-22-2002 10:46 PM

damn

come on Kimmy :(

RogerV 09-20-2002 05:02 PM

We have finally launched the pre-paid cell deal.
http://mshop.freedomselectwireless.com/

KRosh 09-20-2002 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
gary is right, anyone who has a computer with internet most likely wouldnt have any kind of interest in these.

This is not true... you do not need to have good credit to get a free internet service.

Prepaid cellular is more popular than ever. People don't want to sign long term contracts and they mostly have shitty credit.

I sold phones for 6 years and I look around now ..the Market for prepaid is huge.

RogerV 09-20-2002 05:09 PM

It's still starting to grow alot.

they can pay thru Western Union and alot of people are black listed because of not paying cell bills.

playa 09-20-2002 05:29 PM

the other day i was at a mobile phone store,,
and they told the lady next to me that she would need
to put a $1k deposit to get a cell phone,,

damn,

frankfortuna 09-20-2002 07:13 PM

On a similar, note. For those of you who spend a significant amount on long distance, check out Vonage. They have a IP telephony system that functions extrordinarily well for $39.99/mo. unlimited LD. It basically involves adding a Cisco ATA-186 IP telephony adapter to your home or office network (broadband required) and you attach a regular phone to it.

http://www.originateit.com

Sorry for the SPAM, but it is a cool service.


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