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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-14-2007, 09:43 PM

50 calls to wake up America...

US Funded Mercenary Contractors in Iraq

Bush's Response

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tony286 · 05-14-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

do you have any actually facts to proof you are so so right on this ?

- problem with your thinkin
- will be explained

all your thinkin is based on speculation .. thats a problem .. think about it .. yes you speculate that he was not a problem .. yes you speculate that he had no intentions in our direction . . but how do YOU know that ? cant imagine you have em on speed dial and that he was actually informing you about every move he was going to make

two words : terror funding

thats the problem . he does not like the US . he has lots of money . what he be doing with his dollars ?

we dont know .. have no idea .. is he makin large donations to certain organisations without our knowledge ? we dont know . can we stop him .. yes we can and we did

crazy people in charge of countries with lots of monies is NOT a safe situation and SHOULD BE seen as a threat

for that reason Iran is not that much of a problem .. them bitches are broke . .well as good as . .

lets not talk about most of the 911 terrorists were saudi's and they definitely fund terrorism but the right is silent about that.

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

50 calls to wake up America...

US Funded Mercenary Contractors in Iraq

Bush's Response

ADG

Interesting two videos!

Amazing and almost unbelievable response from Bush

It's little wonder the world has a total disrespect for this guy - pitiful :-(

tony286 · 05-14-2007, 10:07 PM

Also we installed saddam and after he gassed all those people , we still did business with him.The pic of him shaking hands with rumsfield was after that happened. Also lets talk about Bush the first who told those poor people to rise up against saddam and we will help you and we did nothing.

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Also we installed saddam and after he gassed all those people , we still did business with him.The pic of him shaking hands with rumsfield was after that happened. Also lets talk about Bush the first who told those poor people to rise up against saddam and we will help you and we did nothing.

Can't quite remember the year, but even before Saddam was placed into office, it was already known he was a thug and that was the basis of engaging him to assassinate the democratically-elected Finance Minister of Iran. Saddam spent almost six months getting briefed in a London hotel by the CIA and, eventually, the assassination succeeded.

BUT... everything blew backwards and the religious element in Iran then took over - exactly what the US did not want (they wanted oil deals at the time), and then the "friendly thug" was armed up to create a war with Iran - another attempt by the US to screw Iran for oil.

Odd when you look back at history - it gets clearer as to how folks may feel about "western imperialism" when they have went thru constant attempts at screwing them

stev0 · 05-14-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

I'll answer this - simply because your post is beyond the realms of stupidity.

It is not any business of any country to assume some "rights" to "nation building" in another country. This simply demonstrates total arrogance and stupidity.

Soft?? On who exactly?? Al Queda perhaps??

Enter the national disease - it's all the fault of some political party in the US. News for ya - the world does not give a flying fuck about any political party in the US - they are irrelevant.

Suggest you immediately sign up with US forces and get into the front line and support the country you believe in so much

Well said

theking · 05-14-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

You remember the day that Colin Powell was used as the dummy to present what was described as "evidence" to the UN? That was prob the last straw in a lack of credibility in the US admin.

It never did need *any* security service or intelligence to know this was a charade. Even the photographs presented as "evidence" had already been published and discounted by press on the ground at these locations.

Will always remember a two second reaction in a CNN press interview with Hans Blick within days prior to the invasion, when he was asked "When US troops invade, do you think Iraqi troops will use nuclear weapons?" The guy stopped for a second, obviously stunned that he was being asked this stupid question - then smiled and answered with a hint of sarcasm, "No, I don't think they will somehow". It was already well-known the whole charade was a farce.

Hell.. can even remember predicting while Rummy's bullshit "Shock and Awe" was in progress that this will be yet another "Vietnam" - and ... low and behold... Intelligence services must be very severely mentally incapacitated to not have a clue of this already - but don't think they were not aware, just in the land of nod and with very little clue of the "way it is" in that region (still think they are totally clueless on this).

OK.. my

- the instigators of the Iraq scenario are accountable. They are responsible for the severe hardship, death and injuries of many people (on both sides). I'd go as far to say their action was far worse than any serial killer. There is also the economic cost to their own countries - that has got to be one of the biggest economic disasters ever. Again - they are responsible - no one else.

Equally, both the US and the UK have no business whatsover in the Middle East - they should not even be there. The UK has had a history of screwing up that region and the newcomer on the block (US) has done the same, but with slightly different agenda - the current one being greed and screwing more oil from the region. Bets on, that will never happen.

There are wars and wars - most have been "honorable wars" and had fairly universal support. The other kind, such as in Iraq, are both dishonorable and repugnant to any civilized person. Ultimately, there is a "real cost" to this and I'd have total sympathy for the victims in that real cost (they are usually innocent people) - but always remember who are the main culpable parties. For these people, I have not one ounce of sympathy - they deserve an equal dose of the hell they created for others.

I think it's called karma

Webby babble.

theking · 05-14-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Sure... noticed this stuff for a while now. The old term was "contractor", and still is, but with expanded sphere of operation. "Contractors" use to deal with stuff the "official govt" could not touch (ie CIA operations at hands length etc).

It's clear that now includes mercenaries dressed up as "contractors" and employed by corps which rip off big time. At the same time, these are the people being used to commit offenses where conventional troops would have a problem.

Shit.. only me, but if I was on some opposing side with a country that conducts it's wars with hired help - they are first in line for a bullet in the head and have no sympathy for em. (Tho - still feel sorry for the guy who does this kinda whoring to earn a living).

On the subject of "sympathy" - just think it is totally disgusting to see kids of 17-18 upwards being sent to a war zone based on the agenda of a perverse idiot. I'd never wish that on any kid - the effects can be long lasting and they have little chance against experienced fighters. Saw a clip on TV recently - three "soldiers" in Iraq around 18 years - hell, they were still stuck to their video games - sad shit.

Back to the economy - firmly believe (after the war is over and a priority) the economy is seriously screwed and suspect to an extent we don't actually know about yet. Can't see any change in this but downwards for ... who knows? Ten years ahead? This is going to cause severe damage all round - both internationally and on the domestic front. It's hard to conceive that the extent of the damage could have happened in.. around 5-6 years. Suspect the US is already at risk on the economic front - especially where other nations are holding large levels of loans, and, tho nobody wants to rock the boat - it prob would not take much for problems to surface.

Give you an example of "confidence" - there was a trade deal with China signed recently for the mutual trading in cars etc. This would have given US car manufacturers an opening to the Chinese market and same with China. But... the US implements... think 2% on Chinese cars and China then slaps 25% duty on US cars. Basically they don't give a shit - the Central Bank of China is already holding more dollars than they want and have an upper hand. It's the old debt-ridden corp scenario where the bank can break the corp any time it likes.

It's kinda stunning that this scenario has been allowed to progress like this and, you are 100% correct, the bill at the end of the day will be presented to US taxpayers - tho they really had little say in the accumulation of that bill. Sad times.

More babble.

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

More babble.

And a good evening to you General

How's the patrol of the homeland doing?

theking · 05-14-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Would agree with that notabook and that there was international support for that action. It would prob fall into the category of an "honorable war".

Would also add... when someone takes a shot at ya, the immediate instinct is to hit back, but on a higher level this may not be prudent. There are plenty ways of skinning a cat and possibly more effective ways - no hurry and plenty time to do it capturing your "opponent" unawares.

Who knows and I sure don't, but smell (in addition to the Afghanistan operation, tho not letting that mess up the longer term goal) it may have been better to "gear up" (with personnel, language training and extended intell etc) and conduct covert operations and attempt to strike at the heart of Al Queda operations - almost to the same level Al Queda elect to use and with the aim of terminating leadership and command structure. This is not a "war" as such, but sustained strikes at where it matters - and no need to have much public discussion over it.

People like Al Queda have never been "beaten" by conventional forces - it has been the same pattern in many countries for centuries. The total flipside to this is often these types of opponents have ultimately sat down at a conference table and, over time, a resolution has been found. (Same scenario, tho different geo situation with the IRA etc).

Still think the instant desire to act was, least in this instance, an error - with declarations of a "War on Terrorism" etc. That type of war is never winnable.
The effect his been an increased support for Al Queda and spreading of sympathetic groups internationally - making the final goal more difficult to achieve.

This is almost like the mentality of a good cop - they will not rush out and have a tantrum without intelligence and background data. They may take a year or so (and sometimes a lot longer) establishing "associations", planting undercover officers etc - then hit when it's least expected.

Sure... the stupid attention paid to Iraq ruined the whole scenario and cost the US a lot of cred internationally.

And even more babble.

theking · 05-14-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Can't quite remember the year, but even before Saddam was placed into office, it was already known he was a thug and that was the basis of engaging him to assassinate the democratically-elected Finance Minister of Iran. Saddam spent almost six months getting briefed in a London hotel by the CIA and, eventually, the assassination succeeded.

BUT... everything blew backwards and the religious element in Iran then took over - exactly what the US did not want (they wanted oil deals at the time), and then the "friendly thug" was armed up to create a war with Iran - another attempt by the US to screw Iran for oil.

Odd when you look back at history - it gets clearer as to how folks may feel about "western imperialism" when they have went thru constant attempts at screwing them

Never ending babble. Babble and pigshit dished up by Webby on a daily basis. Fucking pathetic.

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

And even more babble.

Yea yea we know that - one-liners are so informative and unusual on GFY eh?

You got anything actually worthwhile to offer - other than symptoms of your patriotitus showing thru private ??

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Never ending babble. Babble and pigshit dished up by Webby on a daily basis. Fucking pathetic.

The Queen is back on form again with the deficient limited dialog *lol*

I really need to write a book this topic - what ya think General?? I'm sure you would love it

wyldworx · 05-14-2007, 10:45 PM

responsibility must be taken on all accounts - to pull out now would be devistating. It was wrong to interfere, but it was also a threat on our everyday lives not to. I don't agree with it, but thats what you get when you elect an idiot to run the most powerful country in the world.

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:48 PM

TheQueen:

BTW... I'm still waiting to hear about your previous "pigshit" over the "privileges" that a US citizen has....

Care to expound these national secrets General and astound me ??

Can't wait...

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wyldworx

but thats what you get when you elect an idiot to run the most powerful country in the world.

Tut tut - never say that when the TheKing is around - his patriotitus can get severe and cause blindness

Webby · 05-14-2007, 10:55 PM

TheKing:

OK.. Let's try this one

What's your feelings on SOA/WINSEC torture trainers and their role in the killings of innocent people in other countries and support of rogue regimes?

HomerSimpson · 05-14-2007, 10:59 PM

people, Bush didn't go to Iraq because of WMD but because of (free) OIL

once you realize that much other things will make sense....

those oil platforms are drilling millions of dollars in oil a day!!!!

Webby · 05-14-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

people, Bush didn't go to Iraq because of WMD but because of (free) OIL

once you realize that much other things will make sense....

those oil platforms are drilling millions of dollars in oil a day!!!!

Yea?

Would never have guessed George was a liar, thief and greedy little scumbag...

Pity that oil will never get into his grubby hands tho without a cost higher than simply buying it...

David - PG · 05-14-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

but I honestly believe that we had more than ample reason to go into Iraq and kick arse.

And... don't we now have ample reason to invade Iran after they kidnapped those UK navy soldiers and disobeyed the UN? What about Sudan? Or North Korea?

I think we should have invaded France too after they declined to help us with Iraq!

wyldworx · 05-14-2007, 11:09 PM

Mr Bush.... hmmm.... Hasn't he done really well for your economy, and boy America's standing on the world stage has really improved. You can't beat the facts, George has single handedly baffled the world with bullshit so much, we don't know what to think. Well done, I reckon that deserves re-election.

webmasterchecks · 05-14-2007, 11:11 PM

theking, lets hear your viewpoint if everything is babble

theking · 05-14-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by allanuk

A few years ago, there seemed to be a very much pro Bush and pro war feeling from most of you in the USA, almost not beliving that others outside the USA thought it wrong.

So how do you feel now?

In the UK, I think 80% or more are against the war and glad Blair is now going.

And in other countries the mood also seems to be against the war.

Also from the news in the UK you get the feeling people are now turning against Bush.

so what are your feelings now?

I have never been a fan of President Bush and I am even less so at this point. As for the invasion of Iraq. I advocated the take down of Sadaam and the Bathist government...for multiple reasons...within months of the cease fire in '91. I was still and advocate when we invaded. The take down of Sadaam and the Bathist government was accomplished within the first 24 days. Mission accomplished. We then decided to establish a democratic government. Millions of Iraqi's voted on multiple occasions to estabish a constitution and a democratic government. Mission accomplished. We should have called it a day and withdrew when the government was established.

Am I pleased with the prosecution of this so called "war"? No...not at all. Could it have gone better? Yes. Could the current level of turmoil have been avoided? Yes...absolutely. Could the current level of turmoil be brought under control? Yes...of course. Will it be brought under control? No. Who is to blame? Civilian leadership that the military is required by law to say yes sir too.

David - PG · 05-14-2007, 11:23 PM

For those interested, go over to http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003...s/2007.05.html and look at the faces of those who died in this ridiculous "war for freedom".

Some recent casualties:

Date: May 2007
Rank & Name: Pfc. Roy L. Jones III
Age: 21
Unit: 984th Military Police Company, 759th Military Police Battalion
Hometown: Houston, Texas
Details: Died of wounds suffered from small-arms fire in Diwaniya, Iraq, on May 10, 2007

Why did this kid have to die? His life had barely begun.

I love it how the right wings now use the term "The Cost of Freedom". Was this kid's death worth the pain his family suffers? Did him giving his life completely trusting our Commander in Chief's assessment that it's a just cause improve our safety and level of freedom?

Webby · 05-14-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

I advocated the take down of Sadaam and the Bathist government...for multiple reasons...

Iraq is none of your business general - your opinions on it's govt are irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by theking

We then decided to establish a democratic government.

It never was the business of "we" to establish anything in any country. "We" can't even take care of "us" - nevermind anyone else.

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Originally Posted by theking

Who is to blame? Civilian leadership that the military is required by law to say yes sir too.

The US govt is to blame - no one else. It was the US who elected to invade another country - it is the US who is responsible. Live with it and quit trying the usual Bush ploy of expecting others in another country to stand up and solve the problem for you.

What part did you not understand??

Porn Farmer · 05-14-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David - PG

For those interested, go over to http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003...s/2007.05.html and look at the faces of those who died in this ridiculous "war for freedom".

Some recent casualties:

Date: May 2007
Rank & Name: Pfc. Roy L. Jones III
Age: 21
Unit: 984th Military Police Company, 759th Military Police Battalion
Hometown: Houston, Texas
Details: Died of wounds suffered from small-arms fire in Diwaniya, Iraq, on May 10, 2007

Why did this kid have to die? His life had barely begun.

I love it how the right wings now use the term "The Cost of Freedom". Was this kid's death worth the pain his family suffers? Did him giving his life completely trusting our Commander in Chief's assessment that it's a just cause improve our safety and level of freedom?

The irony is the longer the US stays in Iraq the less safe the US becomes.

They are stirring up a hornets nest and ensuring anti-US sentiment remains there and throughout the middle east for decades to come. They are also providing the jihadists with an excuse and a motivation to attack US interests.

This war in Iraq is, without a doubt, the biggest US foreign policy blunder since the Vietnam war.

Webby · 05-14-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by David - PG

For those interested, go over to http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003...s/2007.05.html and look at the faces of those who died in this ridiculous "war for freedom".

Totally agree David - many of these "soldiers" were little more than teens with little chance on a "war front". It takes guts and bravery for any leader to send kids to fight a war.

The plus these guys got was more than any Iraqi ever got - at least their bodies got counted.

Here's a few more who never got the honor of being counted:

And nice pic of the retarded thug and imbecile responsible for their deaths/maimings - "George The Baby Lover":

Porn Farmer · 05-15-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Will it be brought under control? No. Who is to blame? Civilian leadership that the military is required by law to say yes sir too.

I think you would be much happier living under a dictatorship. You seem to have a big issue with the democratic system and process.

notabook · 05-15-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

crazy people in charge of countries with lots of monies is NOT a safe situation and SHOULD BE seen as a threat

So when are ya going after Bush?

he-fox · 05-15-2007, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

do you have any actually facts to proof you are so so right on this ?

- problem with your thinkin
- will be explained

all your thinkin is based on speculation .. thats a problem .. think about it .. yes you speculate that he was not a problem .. yes you speculate that he had no intentions in our direction . . but how do YOU know that ? cant imagine you have em on speed dial and that he was actually informing you about every move he was going to make

two words : terror funding

thats the problem . he does not like the US . he has lots of money . what he be doing with his dollars ?

we dont know .. have no idea .. is he makin large donations to certain organisations without our knowledge ? we dont know . can we stop him .. yes we can and we did

crazy people in charge of countries with lots of monies is NOT a safe situation and SHOULD BE seen as a threat

for that reason Iran is not that much of a problem .. them bitches are broke . .well as good as . .

paranoic thinking.

"...everybody is against us because we are so good!

"

I doubt that Saddam financed shia terrorist groups like Hizb-Allah or Hamas. They are financed and trained by Iran and Syria, probably, and by fundamentalist individuals, surely.

Al Quaeda is mainly saudi, financial and staff. Financed with Saudi money, made in cooperation with US corporations.

Saddam's only fault against US was probably that he was not friend with the Bush family. He was a bloody dictator, which should have been killed by his people in 1991, but US defrauded the iraqi movement towards freedom back then.

Try to use your logic 2 secs, if you have one.

And stop thinking that everybody is against USA, the majority of this world doesn't give a shit, and the rest have economic interests in US and tight friendship relations with the USA. Still have, until your governement manages to ruin everything what's left

he-fox · 05-15-2007, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

I have never been a fan of President Bush and I am even less so at this point. As for the invasion of Iraq. I advocated the take down of Sadaam and the Bathist government...for multiple reasons...within months of the cease fire in '91. I was still and advocate when we invaded. The take down of Sadaam and the Bathist government was accomplished within the first 24 days. Mission accomplished. We then decided to establish a democratic government. Millions of Iraqi's voted on multiple occasions to estabish a constitution and a democratic government. Mission accomplished. We should have called it a day and withdrew when the government was established.

Am I pleased with the prosecution of this so called "war"? No...not at all. Could it have gone better? Yes. Could the current level of turmoil have been avoided? Yes...absolutely. Could the current level of turmoil be brought under control? Yes...of course. Will it be brought under control? No. Who is to blame? Civilian leadership that the military is required by law to say yes sir too.

you can make pretty decent opinions when you want to.

Continuing the war after catching Saddam was an unbelievable mistake, IMO.

More they stay, more they lose.

Webby · 05-15-2007, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

two words : terror funding

Got to respond this is

Instead of asking for "proof" of something that is already known - where is there any evidence of "terror funding"???

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

thats the problem . he does not like the US . he has lots of money . what he be doing with his dollars ?

Who said Saddam did not like the US??? Why would that be???

Yes, he did have "lots of money" - what has that got to do with anything?? Is that your business??

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

we dont know .. have no idea .. is he makin large donations to certain organisations without our knowledge ? we dont know .

Correct... you don't know and it's none of your business.

You accusing Saddam of something on the basis that you don't know???

Without our knowledge??? Who is "our" and since when did anyone have to report "our" about what they do???

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

crazy people in charge of countries with lots of monies is NOT a safe situation and SHOULD BE seen as a threat

You taken up psychiatry next? You seen a psychiatric report on Saddam somewhere?

Who would know if he was crazy or not? He was an "acceptable" crazy person when the US treated him as an ally - did he come insane on a specific date or was this a gradual process?? I'm sure you know...

What biz is it of yours what rich crazy people do?? Does Iceland, Germany, Canada or China also have this weird concept that alleged crazy and rich people are a threat??? Why would the US or you think this?? There must be a reason. Again, I'm sure you know...

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

for that reason Iran is not that much of a problem .. them bitches are broke . .well as good as . .

OK.. can see the logic - if "the bitches are broke" they are not a problem.

Unfortunately you are talking about prob the most oil-rich country in the Middle East who are currently conducting nuclear-related activity and will prob be the leading country of influence in the Middle East and have a strong influence in Iraq when occupying forces depart.

Pity "the bitches are broke"

Deputy Chief Command · 05-15-2007, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

lets not talk about most of the 911 terrorists were saudi's and they definitely fund terrorism but the right is silent about that.

again .; more dirty games that are being played

the fact that they were Saudi was meant to be played out by the media and for the small minds . . small minds think this has something to do with the Saudi people now ? you have be kidding

the Saudi people are very rich .. they are not terrorist .. one Saudi is .. and this one Saudi created a fuckin network .. this one Saudi is AGAINST the Saudi .gov .. he like REALLY hates them .. so the fuck with them and their economic plans he obviously wanted to fuck with them good

cause in the end that is what it was an act of violence in the US mean to hurt Saudi economic interest and make it difficult for the gov to make large investments

you probably dont remember the port deal ? things like that are now more difficult .. and that was what intented for

Deputy Chief Command · 05-15-2007, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Also we installed saddam and after he gassed all those people , we still did business with him.The pic of him shaking hands with rumsfield was after that happened. Also lets talk about Bush the first who told those poor people to rise up against saddam and we will help you and we did nothing.

exactly .. so him not being a threat to Europe / USA makes us do NOTHING

him being a threat against Europe / USA makes us do MUCH

fuckin peabrains

Supaflyz · 05-15-2007, 03:18 AM

I wonder why the us governement aren't so concerned about the 10,000+ us citizens shot and killed by guns EVERY year.

D · 05-15-2007, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk

A few years ago, there seemed to be a very much pro Bush and pro war feeling from most of you in the USA, almost not beliving that others outside the USA thought it wrong.

We, certainly, were not hanging around the same groups of people.

Bush made a sharp left turn from staying on course when we went to Iraq.

Anyone who didn't feel it wasn't paying attention, imho.

Deputy Chief Command · 05-15-2007, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaflyz

I wonder why the us governement aren't so concerned about the 10,000+ us citizens shot and killed by guns EVERY year.

they are but normal people arent

normal people right now are being played with . . the media does it to choose the next president ..

Webby · 05-15-2007, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaflyz

I wonder why the us governement aren't so concerned about the 10,000+ us citizens shot and killed by guns EVERY year.

Citizen killing is an elected pastime and a "right" - let em get on with it. It's a "must do".

The more important issues are gay rights, abortion and "our values". That is what the US govt are concerned over - and the basis on which they get their asses elected.

It's important that anyone making government decisions on eg road construction, air traffic control, weapons development and allocating budgets for wars, at least has their mind straight on gay rights and abortion.

That's what made the US the way it is today :-)

dig0 · 05-15-2007, 03:52 AM

LadyMischief · 05-15-2007, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I could care less about Bush but I honestly believe that we had more than ample reason to go into Iraq and kick arse. While everyone hypes up the WMD arguement, well, there was a list of a dozen or so reasons why we went in - gross violations of prior terms set up with Iraq after the 1991 Gulf War including them shooting at US warplanes.

Shoot at a US Warplane and we'll invade your country and destroy your government. That sends a pretty clear message to others.

Not even thinking and realizing that Saddam Hussein was the one keeping the sectarian violence at bay, and once his handle on the country was removed, it gave the various sects a free reign to cause the death and destruction that their fear of an elderly dictator was preventing. I don't think Saddam Hussein was a good man, just the opposite, but sometimes there's something known as the lesser of two evils, and Saddam Hussein was the lesser of the evils of unleashing the beast of religious violence. While he was in power everyone was too afraid of him to start in on each other. Ahh well, another mark for the US on it's wonderful history of butting it's nose in where it doesn't belong, yet again.

And once again, the US will end up withdrawing helpless and yet again (such as in Afganistan and other countries over the last century) leave an entire country and culture of people with a legacy of chaos, sectarian violence and civil war. Big thumbs up. The people I feel most sorry for are the troops, they are dying needlessly on the whims of some coked-out moron with a point to prove.

LadyMischief · 05-15-2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Also we installed saddam and after he gassed all those people , we still did business with him.The pic of him shaking hands with rumsfield was after that happened. Also lets talk about Bush the first who told those poor people to rise up against saddam and we will help you and we did nothing.

The US and almost every country in the world is dealing with people/leaders/countries that are doing very bad things. It's almost liek that industry thread about "would you do business with scammers", the chain keeps following and these people continue to get funding and support down the progression. The US just happen to be the loudest, the dumbest, and the most hypocritical about those kinds of foreign policies. In the end, NO government, NO leader, NO country is guilt-free where this kind of thing is concerned. It's just that most countries don't go around pushing their weight and beating people up to prove they are superior, which in the end is what it boils down to. Shoot at a US warplane? WE'LL DESTROY YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR GOVERNMENT, AND MAKE SURE YOUR ENTIRE COUNTRY AND GENERATIONS TO COME LIVE IN VIOLENCE AND POVERTY! YA! We're even.

LadyMischief · 05-15-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaflyz

I wonder why the us governement aren't so concerned about the 10,000+ us citizens shot and killed by guns EVERY year.

Here's a thought. The US government could solve the entire world hunger issue for generations to come with what they get in "emergency funding" for this war each year. Imagine the absurdity of asking for 40-some odd Billion dollars or more to deal with Homelessness in the entire United States? Just shows where the government's priorities really lie.

just a punk · 05-15-2007, 06:15 AM

Seems it became even worse for the USA, than Afghanistan was for USSR.

just a punk · 05-15-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Totally agree David - many of these "soldiers" were little more than teens with little chance on a "war front". It takes guts and bravery for any leader to send kids to fight a war.

The plus these guys got was more than any Iraqi ever got - at least their bodies got counted.

Here's a few more who never got the honor of being counted:

And nice pic of the retarded thug and imbecile responsible for their deaths/maimings - "George The Baby Lover":

Someone here has suggested to nuke Iraq. At least those Iraqi kids will die in a second but they won't suffer hours of death-agony after catching another bullet form some "freedom-carrier"

BTW, is anybody here remembers the actual reason of staring the Iraqi war? The only thing I remember was some kind of relation between the 3D-drawn animations of Iraqi "WMD's" and 9/11 which as organized by the former CIA agent Osama Bin Laden (as far as remember the executors were from Saudi Arabia which is not a part of Iraq, but I believe Mr. Bush was unable to understand it because he used to read the books (maps) turning them upside down (in case if he is able to read at all

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Yahook · 05-15-2007, 06:35 AM

I think war in Iraq was big mistake

just a punk · 05-15-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Yahook

I think war in Iraq was big mistake

Or.. a big crime. Let's name the things as they are.

directfiesta · 05-15-2007, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Nation building is essential because democracies don't export terror.

That is .. funny ......
It is a joke right ....????

Cherry7 · 05-15-2007, 08:49 AM

The BBC put out this play first performed in LA by some American traitors...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/noscript....io4/fridayplay

By the way on the "American Imperialism Website" they are showing pictures of naked girls...

Dirty Dane · 05-15-2007, 09:01 AM

They got Saddam.

Shok · 05-15-2007, 10:22 AM

If they are brown, shoot them down

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05-14-2007, 10:59 PM	#68
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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Also we installed saddam and after he gassed all those people , we still did business with him.The pic of him shaking hands with rumsfield was after that happened. Also lets talk about Bush the first who told those poor people to rise up against saddam and we will help you and we did nothing.

05-14-2007, 10:45 PM	#64
wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	responsibility must be taken on all accounts - to pull out now would be devistating. It was wrong to interfere, but it was also a threat on our everyday lives not to. I don't agree with it, but thats what you get when you elect an idiot to run the most powerful country in the world.

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05-14-2007, 11:23 PM	#74
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05-15-2007, 03:18 AM	#85
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