Another great PPC Scam: Upgrading TGP traffic - GoFuckYourself.com

RawAlex · 05-04-2007, 09:51 AM

I gotta give these guys credit. They figure out every fucking way in the book to rip people off. (note, this is ANOTHER domain registed with ESTDOMAINS, the preferred registrar of just about every scam I find)

http://www.ohh-uhh.com

The traffic to this site is 100% skim TGP / link trade traffic. The surfer clicks on a thumb thinking "gallery" and they get a list of text links. Sample"

http://www.ohh-uhh.com/search.php?query=big_cock_sex

Now the trick is that these clicks are being sold through PPC programs as "clicked traffic". While this is basically true, they are really only clicks of skimmed and redirected TGP traffic - nothing more.

It's an amazing process of "cleaning" TGP traffic and creating value where none exists. If you are buying this traffic (intentionally or not, they run stuff through a ton of different PPC engines) you are getting nothing but skim traffic, and paying click rates for it.

Nice.

woj · 05-04-2007, 10:02 AM

I don't get it, how is that a scam? It's no different than buying some domain putting up a ppc page on it, and buying bulk crap traffic to it hoping some people would click...

Xenophage · 05-14-2007, 06:01 PM

Traffic laundering been around since 97 not anything new, if the stuff does not convert then no one will buy it its that simple. if it does convert then it will continue.

Tempest · 05-14-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I gotta give these guys credit. They figure out every fucking way in the book to rip people off. (note, this is ANOTHER domain registed with ESTDOMAINS, the preferred registrar of just about every scam I find)

http://www.ohh-uhh.com

The traffic to this site is 100% skim TGP / link trade traffic. The surfer clicks on a thumb thinking "gallery" and they get a list of text links. Sample"

http://www.ohh-uhh.com/search.php?query=big_cock_sex

Now the trick is that these clicks are being sold through PPC programs as "clicked traffic". While this is basically true, they are really only clicks of skimmed and redirected TGP traffic - nothing more.

It's an amazing process of "cleaning" TGP traffic and creating value where none exists. If you are buying this traffic (intentionally or not, they run stuff through a ton of different PPC engines) you are getting nothing but skim traffic, and paying click rates for it.

Nice.

Yep.. I've seen quit a bit of that crap going thru PPC sites like findwhat.com... which is why they're a joke... They probably wouldn't get away with it if they tried to go thru 7search as those guy are a lot more anal.

tranza · 05-14-2007, 06:24 PM

Is that really cheating??

webgeek · 05-14-2007, 07:23 PM

i don't think this is cheating at all, looks like a domain sponsor type of parking site.

Kevsh · 05-14-2007, 07:27 PM

The scam is that visitors are not really PPC (i.e. user types a keyword into a search engine and gets a targeted PPC ad). Here, the visitors are brought to this site via a skim from a TGP not via typing in a search.

warlock5 · 05-14-2007, 07:57 PM

Its only a scam if the TOS of the PPC program say search only. Most allow you to do this. Anyone who spends a lot of PPC knows this, thats why bids for terms that are $1+ on Adwords will be 1-2 cents tops on 7search, searchfeed, etc.

On the other hand, I'm guessing this guy doesn't have any rights to the images used.

warlock5 · 05-14-2007, 07:58 PM

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RawAlex · 05-14-2007, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlock5

Its only a scam if the TOS of the PPC program say search only. Most allow you to do this. Anyone who spends a lot of PPC knows this, thats why bids for terms that are $1+ on Adwords will be 1-2 cents tops on 7search, searchfeed, etc.

On the other hand, I'm guessing this guy doesn't have any rights to the images used.

Surfers think they are clicking forward to galleries, not to anything else. They get seperated from the TGP environment and and pushed forward...

Then the real scam comes in: In many cases (I won't say for this particular site) they mix in toolbar surfers, scumware redirects, and SE traffic taken by spamming blog comments, installing codecs, and so on.

Many of the clicks don't actually go directly to a paying customer, but are first bounced through other PPC engines, which are selling "clicks" that really aren't clicks.

Once again: If you see ESTDOMAINS anywhere in the chain, you very likely got fucked.

pornmasta · 05-14-2007, 09:31 PM

it looks more like a weakness of the ppc scheme.
Guess why most sponsor have change for pay per sell...

JD · 05-14-2007, 11:21 PM

fucking christ... cut off russian countries from the net immediately!

05-04-2007, 09:51 AM	#1
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Another great PPC Scam: Upgrading TGP traffic I gotta give these guys credit. They figure out every fucking way in the book to rip people off. (note, this is ANOTHER domain registed with ESTDOMAINS, the preferred registrar of just about every scam I find) http://www.ohh-uhh.com The traffic to this site is 100% skim TGP / link trade traffic. The surfer clicks on a thumb thinking "gallery" and they get a list of text links. Sample" http://www.ohh-uhh.com/search.php?query=big_cock_sex Now the trick is that these clicks are being sold through PPC programs as "clicked traffic". While this is basically true, they are really only clicks of skimmed and redirected TGP traffic - nothing more. It's an amazing process of "cleaning" TGP traffic and creating value where none exists. If you are buying this traffic (intentionally or not, they run stuff through a ton of different PPC engines) you are getting nothing but skim traffic, and paying click rates for it. Nice.

05-04-2007, 10:02 AM	#2
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	I don't get it, how is that a scam? It's no different than buying some domain putting up a ppc page on it, and buying bulk crap traffic to it hoping some people would click... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

05-14-2007, 06:24 PM	#5
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Is that really cheating?? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

05-14-2007, 07:23 PM	#6
webgeek Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 165	i don't think this is cheating at all, looks like a domain sponsor type of parking site. __________________ webgeek

05-14-2007, 06:01 PM	#3
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Traffic laundering been around since 97 not anything new, if the stuff does not convert then no one will buy it its that simple. if it does convert then it will continue.

05-14-2007, 07:27 PM	#7
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	The scam is that visitors are not really PPC (i.e. user types a keyword into a search engine and gets a targeted PPC ad). Here, the visitors are brought to this site via a skim from a TGP not via typing in a search.

05-14-2007, 07:57 PM	#8
warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	Its only a scam if the TOS of the PPC program say search only. Most allow you to do this. Anyone who spends a lot of PPC knows this, thats why bids for terms that are $1+ on Adwords will be 1-2 cents tops on 7search, searchfeed, etc. On the other hand, I'm guessing this guy doesn't have any rights to the images used.

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warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	------------

05-14-2007, 09:31 PM	#11
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,272	it looks more like a weakness of the ppc scheme. Guess why most sponsor have change for pay per sell...

05-14-2007, 11:21 PM	#12
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	fucking christ... cut off russian countries from the net immediately!