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RawAlex 05-04-2007 09:51 AM

Another great PPC Scam: Upgrading TGP traffic
 
I gotta give these guys credit. They figure out every fucking way in the book to rip people off. (note, this is ANOTHER domain registed with ESTDOMAINS, the preferred registrar of just about every scam I find)

http://www.ohh-uhh.com

The traffic to this site is 100% skim TGP / link trade traffic. The surfer clicks on a thumb thinking "gallery" and they get a list of text links. Sample"

http://www.ohh-uhh.com/search.php?query=big_cock_sex

Now the trick is that these clicks are being sold through PPC programs as "clicked traffic". While this is basically true, they are really only clicks of skimmed and redirected TGP traffic - nothing more.

It's an amazing process of "cleaning" TGP traffic and creating value where none exists. If you are buying this traffic (intentionally or not, they run stuff through a ton of different PPC engines) you are getting nothing but skim traffic, and paying click rates for it.

Nice.

woj 05-04-2007 10:02 AM

I don't get it, how is that a scam? It's no different than buying some domain putting up a ppc page on it, and buying bulk crap traffic to it hoping some people would click...

Xenophage 05-14-2007 06:01 PM

Traffic laundering been around since 97 not anything new, if the stuff does not convert then no one will buy it its that simple. if it does convert then it will continue.

Tempest 05-14-2007 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12371474)
I gotta give these guys credit. They figure out every fucking way in the book to rip people off. (note, this is ANOTHER domain registed with ESTDOMAINS, the preferred registrar of just about every scam I find)

http://www.ohh-uhh.com

The traffic to this site is 100% skim TGP / link trade traffic. The surfer clicks on a thumb thinking "gallery" and they get a list of text links. Sample"

http://www.ohh-uhh.com/search.php?query=big_cock_sex

Now the trick is that these clicks are being sold through PPC programs as "clicked traffic". While this is basically true, they are really only clicks of skimmed and redirected TGP traffic - nothing more.

It's an amazing process of "cleaning" TGP traffic and creating value where none exists. If you are buying this traffic (intentionally or not, they run stuff through a ton of different PPC engines) you are getting nothing but skim traffic, and paying click rates for it.

Nice.

Yep.. I've seen quit a bit of that crap going thru PPC sites like findwhat.com... which is why they're a joke... They probably wouldn't get away with it if they tried to go thru 7search as those guy are a lot more anal.

tranza 05-14-2007 06:24 PM

Is that really cheating??

webgeek 05-14-2007 07:23 PM

i don't think this is cheating at all, looks like a domain sponsor type of parking site.

Kevsh 05-14-2007 07:27 PM

The scam is that visitors are not really PPC (i.e. user types a keyword into a search engine and gets a targeted PPC ad). Here, the visitors are brought to this site via a skim from a TGP not via typing in a search.

warlock5 05-14-2007 07:57 PM

Its only a scam if the TOS of the PPC program say search only. Most allow you to do this. Anyone who spends a lot of PPC knows this, thats why bids for terms that are $1+ on Adwords will be 1-2 cents tops on 7search, searchfeed, etc.

On the other hand, I'm guessing this guy doesn't have any rights to the images used.

warlock5 05-14-2007 07:58 PM

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RawAlex 05-14-2007 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlock5 (Post 12429629)
Its only a scam if the TOS of the PPC program say search only. Most allow you to do this. Anyone who spends a lot of PPC knows this, thats why bids for terms that are $1+ on Adwords will be 1-2 cents tops on 7search, searchfeed, etc.

On the other hand, I'm guessing this guy doesn't have any rights to the images used.

Surfers think they are clicking forward to galleries, not to anything else. They get seperated from the TGP environment and and pushed forward...

Then the real scam comes in: In many cases (I won't say for this particular site) they mix in toolbar surfers, scumware redirects, and SE traffic taken by spamming blog comments, installing codecs, and so on.

Many of the clicks don't actually go directly to a paying customer, but are first bounced through other PPC engines, which are selling "clicks" that really aren't clicks.

Once again: If you see ESTDOMAINS anywhere in the chain, you very likely got fucked.

pornmasta 05-14-2007 09:31 PM

it looks more like a weakness of the ppc scheme.
Guess why most sponsor have change for pay per sell...

JD 05-14-2007 11:21 PM

fucking christ... cut off russian countries from the net immediately!


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